dad says he's taking daughter to chiropractor

[californiamom3]

This is definitely not a legal response, more of a medical one. After she sees the pediatric optometrist and the chiropractor, if the headaches continue, you and Dad should discuss possibly taking her to a neurologist.

and just an FYI, the chiropractor visit may require precertification in order to be paid by the insurance, and some plans do not pay for chiropractic care if the diagnosis is "headache"

Thanks for the neurologist advice. Chiropractic care is not covered by our insurance. It would have to be referred by her MD. Dad plans on paying out of pocket.
Besides after the opto. appointment she'll have to go back to her general MD. for a referral to anywhere else. I'll be sure to have dad THERE so we can hear Dr.s advice together.

 

[Hisbabygirl77]

But your not married. Thats the point. I would also like to say even married parents dont always "agree" sometimes one person just gives in to keep the peace or because you love them. Thats normally not the case with divorced people after all there is a reason they got divorced. To say you both have to agree is going to get annoying for both of you because you will NOT always agree thats a given and then what? Back to court you go....again and again and again. How about you trust him that just as you yourself wants he wants whats best for her. You are trying your option he is trying his. Not just this time but in the future.

 

[californiamom3]

Sorry I misread what you wrote. I took it that you wanted to play to his lack of knowledge. I apoligize

I understand.

 

[californiamom3]

But your not married. Thats the point. I would also like to say even married parents dont always "agree" sometimes one person just gives in to keep the peace or because you love them. Thats normally not the case with divorced people after all there is a reason they got divorced. To say you both have to agree is going to get annoying for both of you because you will NOT always agree thats a given and then what? Back to court you go....again and again and again. How about you trust him that just as you yourself wants he wants whats best for her. You are trying your option he is trying his. Not just this time but in the future.

I really didn't want to get into this part of the discussion.
When it comes down to it, I do not trust his opinion. He may not trust mine either, but the point is**************
I feel it is in the best interest of the children to have a court order that says mom and dad need to agree. I am willing to put up with the BS that comes along with it. Sure I may not get what I want. I'll have to deal with that too.
History could explain my reasoning behind this. That would be a long story.

 

[Hisbabygirl77]

I really didn't want to get into this part of the discussion.
When it comes down to it, I do not trust his opinion. He may not trust mine either, but the point is**************
I feel it is in the best interest of the children to have a court order that says mom and dad need to agree. I am willing to put up with the BS that comes along with it. Sure I may not get what I want. I'll have to deal with that too.
History could explain my reasoning behind this. That would be a long story.

Well its your choice to try.. Just realize there is a lot of parents out there that would ignore the need for treatment and here you have a parent not only taking it seriously but paying out of pocket for treatment in hopes it helps his child. That to me show that he cares.

 

[californiamom3]

Well its your choice to try.. Just realize there is a lot of parents out there that would ignore the need for treatment and here you have a parent not only taking it seriously but paying out of pocket for treatment in hopes it helps his child. That to me show that he cares.

I agree.
I do not oppose chiropractic treatment.
I DO think that the WHY of the headaches needs to be explored BEFORE chiropractic treatment. Of course, that is just my opinion.
Dad did respond to my email. Said that he would agree to have her analyzed but not treated and would discuss options with me after the appointment. (as I will after opto. appt.)
There is hope after all!

 

[stealth2]

She is getting a routine eye exam by her pediatric optometrist.
I am fully aware of the differences between an optometrist and an ophthalmologist.
I see one of each on a regular basis as I suffer from severe Chalazia. I have had surgeries, steroid injections, etc.
A very good example. If our daughter were to be referred to an ophthalmologist, I would indeed run it by dad first for his approval.....even without a court order saying that I should.

And see... IMO, you're taking your daughter to the visual equivalent of a chiropractor, rather than an MD.

 

[californiamom3]

And see... IMO, you're taking your daughter to the visual equivalent of a chiropractor, rather than an MD.

Our insurance includes vision care. I do not need to go through their MD in order to make an optometrist appointment like I would if I were to request chiropractic care.
My girls get a physical once a year with their pediatric Dr.
They get an eye exam once a year with their pediatric optometrist.
Anything other than this needs to be approved by their MD.
If chiropractic care were so conventional, why wouldn't the insurance ensure that they go to a chiropractor once a year as well?
Your stretching.

 

[Hisbabygirl77]

Our insurance includes vision care. I do not need to go through their MD in order to make an optometrist appointment like I would if I were to request chiropractic care.
My girls get a physical once a year with their pediatric Dr.
They get an eye exam once a year with their pediatric optometrist.
Anything other than this needs to be approved by their MD.
If chiropractic care were so conventional, why wouldn't the insurance ensure that they go to a chiropractor once a year as well?
Your stretching.

No stealth is not stretching you want to take your child to see they optometrist for headaches according to you. You did not state this was a "routine" annual eye exam so you would be going for something outside of the normal eye care. Which is not big deal your the parent its your choice to do so just as he is the parent and it is his choice to do so.

 

[gr8rn]

I agree with you californiamom. An optometrist is the person who does the eye test and determines if the child needs glasses, or if already prescribed, determines if the lenses need adjustments, say, if the eyesight has gotten worse. The optometrist does not diagnose or treat eye diseases or conditions such as glaucoma, or even an eye infection. That is what an opthamologist does.

Commonly, the optometrist can tweak the eyeglass prescription, and voila, headaches are gone. Sometimes the prescription is incorrect,and thus, a headache develops from eye strain.

I really don't see any correlation between an optometrist and a chiropractor. Nobody goes around callling optometrists "quacks".

 

[californiamom3]

Hisbaby: I did state that this was a routine eye exam back on the first page.

Eye appointment is a regular check up that just happens to coincide with the headaches. Dad does not disapprove of this eye appointment.

No stealth is not stretching you want to take your child to see they optometrist for headaches according to you. You did not state this was a "routine" annual eye exam so you would be going for something outside of the normal eye care. Which is not big deal your the parent its your choice to do so just as he is the parent and it is his choice to do so.

I can not make an eye appointment outside of the once a year exam without paying. Although if I felt she needed it outside of the once a year plan I would speak to dad first.

 

[stealth2]

I agree.
I do not oppose chiropractic treatment.
I DO think that the WHY of the headaches needs to be explored BEFORE chiropractic treatment. Of course, that is just my opinion.
Dad did respond to my email. Said that he would agree to have her analyzed but not treated and would discuss options with me after the appointment. (as I will after opto. appt.)
There is hope after all!

Seriously? Then you would also want her to see an MD instead of an optometrist. There are many possible medical reasons behind her headaches. And an optometrist may not be professionally equipped to recognize many of them.

 

[stealth2]

I agree with you californiamom. An optometrist is the person who does the eye test and determines if the child needs glasses, or if already prescribed, determines if the lenses need adjustments, say, if the eyesight has gotten worse. The optometrist does not diagnose or treat eye diseases or conditions such as glaucoma, or even an eye infection. That is what an opthamologist does.

Commonly, the optometrist can tweak the eyeglass prescription, and voila, headaches are gone. Sometimes the prescription is incorrect,and thus, a headache develops from eye strain.

I really don't see any correlation between an optometrist and a chiropractor. Nobody goes around callling optometrists "quacks".

Really? Sometimes, those adjustments temporarily relieve the headaches as they treat a secondary cause. But there is a primary cause that an optometrist isn't qualified to diagnose.

Sorry, but when my own kid had headaches that I thought *may* be vision-based? She went to an optho. Just to be on the safe side. It was well worth the money I paid out of my own pocket.

 

[californiamom3]

Seriously? Then you would also want her to see an MD instead of an optometrist. There are many possible medical reasons behind her headaches. And an optometrist may not be professionally equipped to recognize many of them.

Again, this is a routine optometrist appointment. In fact, the office called ME to remind me that all 3 girls are due for their routine eye appointment.
Dad and I have already agreed to schedule an appointment with her regular Dr. as well. The plan is to ask for a chiropractic referral while she's there (just to get analyzed) so that dad does not have to pay out of pocket.
Yes, there are many possibilities as to the cause of headaches. Could just be stress. Could be her eyes, could be her back needs adjusting. Who knows.
Although it became one, this was not an issue about going to a chiropractor VS an eye Dr. This was about whether or not mom and dad should agree on treatment of the children before it happens.

 

[Proserpina]

Seriously? Then you would also want her to see an MD instead of an optometrist. There are many possible medical reasons behind her headaches. And an optometrist may not be professionally equipped to recognize many of them.

I do believe getting kiddo's headaches diagnosed first before seeking any treatment was recommended quite early in the thread; quite honestly the best option here may be first GP, then neurologist.