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Really? Sometimes, those adjustments temporarily relieve the headaches as they treat a secondary cause. But there is a primary cause that an optometrist isn't qualified to diagnose.

Sorry, but when my own kid had headaches that I thought *may* be vision-based? She went to an optho. Just to be on the safe side. It was well worth the money I paid out of my own pocket.
In this case the MD or the Opto. can make a referral to an ophthalmologist if they feel needed. Of course I will have to speak to dad first.
In my daughters case, this is not an emergency so why would we (dad and I) pay out of pocket if I can get a referral in a few days?
Did not intend for this to be a battle over chiropractic care.
Has definitely made for an interesting conversation though. ;)
 


stealth2

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I do believe getting kiddo's headaches diagnosed first before seeking any treatment was recommended quite early in the thread; quite honestly the best option here may be first GP, then neurologist.

:)
I was working the analogy thing.

GP is to chiro as Optometrist is to optho.

Guess I'm just old. :p
 

LdiJ

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In this case the MD or the Opto. can make a referral to an ophthalmologist if they feel needed. Of course I will have to speak to dad first.
In my daughters case, this is not an emergency so why would we (dad and I) pay out of pocket if I can get a referral in a few days?
Did not intend for this to be a battle over chiropractic care.
Has definitely made for an interesting conversation though. ;)
Mom...just to throw something out there....

When my daughter started middle school she started having pretty serious headaches.

It turned out that she was mildly hypoglycimic (as am I, and I do believe I spelled that wrong but I am not going to check it) and the headaches were due to her not eating lunch when she needed to eat.

So, if your daughter is dieting or there is a change in her eating schedule don't rule that out.
 
Mom...just to throw something out there....

When my daughter started middle school she started having pretty serious headaches.

It turned out that she was mildly hypoglycimic (as am I, and I do believe I spelled that wrong but I am not going to check it) and the headaches were due to her not eating lunch when she needed to eat.

So, if your daughter is dieting or there is a change in her eating schedule don't rule that out.
I am not a doctor nor a physiologist but it is awfully coincidental that since dad has been back in the picture headaches have increased and grades have dropped. She seems to be happy spending time with dad when the time comes. But very stressed through the week and is not her "happy go lucky" self. I think she is still apprehensive about this whole situation. He was gone for 5 years ya know? A whole new life for the all of us. Getting to know somebody all over again can be a lot of stress, even for a 16 year old.
I have high hopes that knowing that dad and I are "agreeing" on things (such as medical care) will help alleviate the stress a bit. Also going to the Dr, opto., chiro., whatever might give her a "reason" for the headaches. A bit of a physiology tool.
On a side note, daughter has been a vegetarian for almost 6 years. I don't feel she eats enough protein. Could be a cause.
Please don't let this become a new argument about vegetarians! LOL!;)
 

Proserpina

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On a side note, daughter has been a vegetarian for almost 6 years. I don't feel she eats enough protein. Could be a cause.
Please don't let this become a new argument about vegetarians! LOL!;)
Oh honey.....I'm going to take my meat tenderizer, sit in the corner and pretend that I'm not wearing my dear departed Dad's old t-shirt which read (as a protest against vegetarianism which he could not, despite his overall marvellousness, comprehend) "If it don't have a face, I don't wanna eat it!".

:D
 

CJane

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Oh honey.....I'm going to take my meat tenderizer, sit in the corner and pretend that I'm not wearing my dear departed Dad's old t-shirt which read (as a protest against vegetarianism which he could not, despite his overall marvellousness, comprehend) "If it don't have a face, I don't wanna eat it!".

:D
One of my daughter's favorite tshirts reads "How many vegetables had to die for your salad?"
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
One of my daughter's favorite tshirts reads "How many vegetables had to die for your salad?"
And at a certain store - the name of which rhymes with Pot Hopic - "MURDERER!!!...Carrots have feelings too!".

:D

Not that I'd know anything about that.
 

Ohiogal

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In this case the MD or the Opto. can make a referral to an ophthalmologist if they feel needed. Of course I will have to speak to dad first.
In my daughters case, this is not an emergency so why would we (dad and I) pay out of pocket if I can get a referral in a few days?
Did not intend for this to be a battle over chiropractic care.
Has definitely made for an interesting conversation though. ;)
Its not an emergency? How long has your daughter had headaches? How bad are they for her? It may not be an emergency for you but for her she may want it settled quickly. Oh and for headaches you might want to schedule an appointment with her ob-gyn. Why? Because headaches can coincide with hormonal changes due to the menstrual system. But yet you want to take your child to someone who is NOT an MD and think that is appropriate but dad's choice is not. Your guy is just as much as quack.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
I am not a doctor nor a physiologist but it is awfully coincidental that since dad has been back in the picture headaches have increased and grades have dropped. She seems to be happy spending time with dad when the time comes. But very stressed through the week and is not her "happy go lucky" self. I think she is still apprehensive about this whole situation. He was gone for 5 years ya know? A whole new life for the all of us. Getting to know somebody all over again can be a lot of stress, even for a 16 year old.
I have high hopes that knowing that dad and I are "agreeing" on things (such as medical care) will help alleviate the stress a bit. Also going to the Dr, opto., chiro., whatever might give her a "reason" for the headaches. A bit of a physiology tool.
On a side note, daughter has been a vegetarian for almost 6 years. I don't feel she eats enough protein. Could be a cause.
Please don't let this become a new argument about vegetarians! LOL!;)
Or your headaches are due to YOUR attitude and lack of trust in dad and that picks up. You are agreeing? NO you aren't if you want to go back to court to put a kibosh on dad making any decisions.
 

wileybunch

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I agree.
I do not oppose chiropractic treatment.
I DO think that the WHY of the headaches needs to be explored BEFORE chiropractic treatment. Of course, that is just my opinion.
Dad did respond to my email. Said that he would agree to have her analyzed but not treated and would discuss options with me after the appointment. (as I will after opto. appt.)
There is hope after all!
Mom, I'm reading through this whole thread now and it does appear as though there is a hidden agenda. And, I will say that even though I am also one that does not like chiropractic care, I was made worse after a car accident 22 years ago because of chiropractic treatment and I doubt I will ever step foot in a chiro office again OR take my kids.

But, you have been SITTING on your DD's headache issues, not taking her to her primary care doc to "start at the top and work down from there", but when DAD takes action and schedules with a chiro, all of a sudden you get all busy fighting him or figuring out how to fight him.

Your move to make ANY and ALL care and treatment be agreed to BEFORE seeing a doctor is overly controlling and not in the child's best interests, really. You think it is, but I would say you're being shortsighted.

I am not a doctor nor a physiologist but it is awfully coincidental that since dad has been back in the picture headaches have increased and grades have dropped. She seems to be happy spending time with dad when the time comes. But very stressed through the week and is not her "happy go lucky" self. I think she is still apprehensive about this whole situation. He was gone for 5 years ya know? A whole new life for the all of us. Getting to know somebody all over again can be a lot of stress, even for a 16 year old.
Wow. I'm sorry, this is a bit much, really, and this does give the hidden agenda angle. You've allowed your DD to languish with headaches without taking some real assertive action to find answers because somewhere in your thinking, you think these things and perhaps even subconsciously want your DD to suffer so you can feel that you have the upper hand. OTOH, Dad's shown the real action here by seeking help of a chiropractor because he's trying to get the ball rolling to help her out of her pain. You're just waiting for a routine annual OPTOMETRIST appointment, of all things.

I have high hopes that knowing that dad and I are "agreeing" on things (such as medical care) will help alleviate the stress a bit.
Oh boy, I sure don't agree with this perspective at all. Your DD should have NO AWARENESS of agreement or disagreement about MEDICAL CARE! She's a child, she gets taken to the doctor when she needs it and/or when preventative care is sought. Period. There's no reason to "play it out" in front of her in the first place. YOU go with DAD to the chiropractor if you have any questions on what's recommended (just like you want Dad to go to PCP whenever you finally get around to taking DD there ....).
 
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Oh boy, I sure don't agree with this perspective at all. Your DD should have NO AWARENESS of agreement or disagreement about MEDICAL CARE! She's a child, she gets taken to the doctor when she needs it and/or when preventative care is sought. Period. There's no reason to "play it out" in front of her in the first place. YOU go with DAD to the chiropractor if you have any questions on what's recommended (just like you want Dad to go to PCP whenever you finally get around to taking DD there ....).
Dad told her that he wanted to take her to chiro and that I disagreed. Not my doing. Dad told youngest, who is 10, how much child support he is paying and how I should be spending it. There is no way for any of you to know what kind of person I'm dealing with here. I understand how you might be reading into all of this. During our last hearing we were told that we wouldn't need to go to mediation again. Dad called and requested mediation anyway. I have an email from him saying, "Your welcome, you get to go to your favorite mediator again."
Dad chose not to have visitation on Saturdays rather that Sundays because it is "HIS" day off. But yet complained that he was going to lose money by taking Sundays off. I doubt dad taking daughter to chiro has anything to do with "caring" for her. More like to spite me. By the way, he took her last night. Quick draw McGraw.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Ya know... I used to be married to a real peach, myself. I was sure that anything he did was to spite me. But I got off the "it's all about ME_E_E_E_E train long ago. Maybe you should, too.
 
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