Harrassment? Child Custody

[Proserpina]

I've seen you in action Doggie. There is no way in haedes that you are a fufu, wrinkley, hairless, yappy, purse-sized, mousey looking thing. You are a pit bull on steriods.

I...honestly have no answer to that lol

 

[Antigone*]

Thank you - I was actually about to apologize for the somewhat bizarre hijack of the thread but you've responded with grace, dignity and humour. We are certainly not making light of your situation, k?

(Let's face it - when you're dealing with exes you need a sense of humour...without it I suspect there would be a drastic increase in the number of John Wayne Bobbits the world over...)

Zigner started it... It is all his fault and if anyone gets grounded it should be him, right mom

 

[AngryMom627]

Thank you - I was actually about to apologize for the somewhat bizarre hijack of the thread but you've responded with grace, dignity and humour. We are certainly not making light of your situation, k?

(Let's face it - when you're dealing with exes you need a sense of humour...without it I suspect there would be a drastic increase in the number of John Wayne Bobbits the world over...)

I needed the humor and the tough love....returning to work (missing 2 more days pay) from being sick and seeing this sicko send personal documents to my place of work had me furious. I did retain an attorney--more money I don't have--since he filed the motion for custody, and none of his claims were proved true - I can ask to judge to make him pay the attorney fees, she said they are hard, but definitely worth a try. I've already been told this judge won't agree to a week to week visitation, especially with a young daughter being away from her mother. I'm just to beat to continue to fight it on my own, the ball is in my corner, he does't pay support, it's documentated he clearly lied about a dog attack, he doesnt deny sending my daughter to school sick, not bathing her or grooming her hair. I just need a lawyer to bring it all together and hit it out the park!

 

[Ohiogal]

Uh.... my mailing address has not changed, he's been demanding my new address and I am not releasing it. My mail is forwarded, I have rec'd every court notice, and when asked at court to list my address, I have listed my previous address, it's none of his business where I live, he's a control freak, there is a history of violence. I want this person to stay clear of me. I've moved on in a relationship and ever since there has been hell. He's attempted to remove emergency contacts from my daughter's school records.

I want to be left alone; btw the recommendation still awards me sole physical custody of my daughter. I just don't think it's fair someone can run to court with a pack full of lies; not pay child support and cost me; he buys my daughter gifts, all the while not paying support and e-mails me to let him know if she needs anything. Again unacceptable. He needs to pay his support and leave me the he** alone!

Is the support COURT ORDERED? And while he doesn't have a right to know where YOU live, he does have every right in the world to know where HIS CHILD lives! Your daughter's school records? Your daughter has TWO PARENTS of which HE is one.

 

[AngryMom627]

Is the support COURT ORDERED? And while he doesn't have a right to know where YOU live, he does have every right in the world to know where HIS CHILD lives! Your daughter's school records? Your daughter has TWO PARENTS of which HE is one.

I haven't updated my address with my daughters' school. You don't seem to get it, this man stole my personal paperwork, and presented it to the court, which by, the way my lawyer will be addressing in court. He claimed child abuse/neglect of a 5 week old puppy for my daughter's hospitalization, the hospital discharge even quotes him stating she had a similiar episode from a mosquito bite the previous year. My brother died Mother's Day 2008 of a heart attack(age 28), in AZ, before I found this out, my daughters father asked me out to brunch, I declined after all, I've lost my home, moved, with no help from him, now he wants to feed me to make amends, NOT!. Later once I found out about my brothers death i tried to contacted him, he never answered until 2 am, I was furious, I told him I had been calling for him to get his daughter my brother died. This scum of the earth hung up on me. I will never forget that. 2 days later I left for AZ with my daughter--no custody order was in place, one of my sisters and I got into a fight, I was jailed and recieved a DV in AZ.

This guy stole my court paper wrote on it that I was convicted of manslaughter and my parole was transferred to Michigan Parole. This was attached to his motion for custody. He tried to imply I had a record of violence in the state of Michigan. Parole indicates felony. I have never been covicted of a felony, the charge was DV in AZ against my sister. Nor was the case transferred to MI. This guy is the scum of the earth,t I would never hang up in someone's face who lost a family member. He lied about dog bites, about me committing manslaughter, I can go on and on, I DON'T WANT THIS GUY AROUND ME!

The custody order began with a mutual agreement I agreed to; to try to keep the peace, it has been nothing but Hell and Conflict! False accusations from the dog and so forth. It doesn't matter if I live in the slums of Detroit (I can say this because I was born in Detroit), it's my perogotive, I reside in the state of MI, if requested, I will provide the court with a verifiable lease. I have been the sole provider for my daughter since birth. This guy has constantly come after me because I rejected him and moved on and he doesn't want to pay support. He doesn't know where his other daughters' live he only know what city they reside in, why because their mother dates a sheriff's deputy who pulled guns on him, when he came near with all his nonsense. It's unbelievable you can lie in a court of law, but it's all coming to light; Patience is a virtue!

 

[Ohiogal]

]I haven't updated my address with my daughters' school. You don't seem to get it, this man stole my personal paperwork, and presented it to the court, which by, the way my lawyer will be addressing in court. He claimed child abuse/neglect of a 5 week old puppy for my daughter's hospitalization, the hospital discharge even quotes him stating she had a similiar episode from a mosquito bite the previous year. My brother died Mother's Day 2008 of a heart attack(age 28), in AZ, before I found this out, my daughters father asked me out to brunch, I declined after all, I've lost my home, moved, with no help from him, now he wants to feed me to make amends, NOT!. Later once I found out about my brothers death i tried to contacted him, he never answered until 2 am, I was furious, I told him I had been calling for him to get his daughter my brother died. This scum of the earth hung up on me. I will never forget that. 2 days later I left for AZ with my daughter--no custody order was in place, one of my sisters and I got into a fight, I was jailed and recieved a DV in AZ.

And? Dad still has a right to know where HIS CHILD lives.

This guy stole my court paper wrote on it that I was convicted of manslaughter and my parole was transferred to Michigan Parole. This was attached to his motion for custody. He tried to imply I had a record of violence in the state of Michigan. Parole indicates felony. I have never been covicted of a felony, the charge was DV in AZ against my sister. Nor was the case transferred to MI.

You have a record of violence in AZ.

This guy is the scum of the earth,t I would never hang up in someone's face who lost a family member. He lied about dog bites, about me committing manslaughter, I can go on and on, I DON'T WANT THIS GUY AROUND ME!

Then you need to give him full custody of his child and walk away. HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE HIS CHILD IS.

The custody order began with a mutual agreement I agreed to; to try to keep the peace, it has been nothing but Hell and Conflict! False accusations from the dog and so forth. It doesn't matter if I live in the slums of Detroit (I can say this because I was born in Detroit), it's my perogotive, I reside in the state of MI, if requested, I will provide the court with a verifiable lease. I have been the sole provider for my daughter since birth.

NOT JUST YOUR DAUGHTER> His daughter as well. HE has a RIGHT to know where SHE lives.

This guy has constantly come after me because I rejected him and moved on and he doesn't want to pay support.

You never answered -- is there a court order for support?

He doesn't know where his other daughters' live he only know what city they reside in, why because their mother dates a sheriff's deputy who pulled guns on him, when he came near with all his nonsense.

So? He has a right to know where they live as well. HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE HIS CHILDREN LIVE. And if one lives with you then he has a right to know your address because that is the address of his child.

It's unbelievable you can lie in a court of law, but it's all coming to light; Patience is a virtue!

So is maturity quite frankly. And you are not showing your maturity.

 

[AngryMom627]

And? Dad still has a right to know where HIS CHILD lives.

You have a record of violence in AZ.

Yep I sure due a misdemeanor with a family member, AND what is your point?

Then you need to give him full custody of his child and walk away. HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE HIS CHILD IS.

Well AS I SAID BEFORE THERE IS A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE NOT ONLY AGAINST ME, AGAINST MY OLDEST SON, HE JUST THREATENED HIM THE OTHER DAY. YOU SHOULDN'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

NOT JUST YOUR DAUGHTER> His daughter as well. HE has a RIGHT to know where SHE lives.

SHE IS MY DAUGHTER, WHY BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THE ONLY ONE TO CLOTHE, AND FEED HER, NEWSFLASH IT TAKES MORE TO BE A DAD THAN A COUPLE OF TRINKETS AND SOME I LOVE U'S. I LOVE YOU DOESN'T KEEP A ROOF OVER HER HEAD, CLOTHES ON HER BACK OR FOOD IN HER TUMMY! GET A CLUE!


You never answered -- is there a court order for support?

OF COURSE I HAVE A COURT ORDER FOR SUPPORT; DOES HE PAY OF COURSE NOT, HE'S A COMPUTER ENGINEER WITH A BACHELORS FROM U OF M; WENT TO THE COURT CLAIMING HE'S ONLY EARNING $8.50/HR GOT THE CHILD SUPPORT REDUCED AND HAVEN'T PAID SINCE. BUT U HAVE THE NERVE TO GET ON THIS BLOG ABOUT WHAT HE DESERVES. I DESERVED TO RECIEVE MY CHILD SUPPORT, I DESERVED TO HAVE HIM PAY THE MORTGAGE FOR THE HOUSE IN WHICH HE LIVED, I DESERVED TO HAVE HIM TAKE CARE OF HIS DAUGHTER OVER THE PAST 4 YEARS, I DESERVED TO HAVE HIM PUT FOOD IN THE HOUSE IN WHICH HE LIVED, HIS DAUGHTER'S WHO ARE 19 & 15 DESERVED A FATHER BUT NEVER GOT ONE! I CAN GO ON AND ON. DON'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT A JERK U HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT!

So? He has a right to know where they live as well. HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE HIS CHILDREN LIVE. And if one lives with you then he has a right to know your address because that is the address of his child.

DOES HE HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE, HE DOESN'T CARE WHERE THEY LIVE, MOM'S MATE IS A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY, HE CARES ABOUT HIS WELL BEING FIRST AND FOREMOST. HE SAID POINT BLANK HE WOULD NEVER GO TO THE CITY THEY LIVE IN; HE CHOOSES NOT TO KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE.
So is maturity quite frankly. And you are not showing your maturity.

UHHHH..... IT'S CALLED A DEADBEAT DAD WHO DOESN'T WANT TO PAY SUPPORT! MATURITY WOULD BE TO PAY SUPPORT AND TAKE CARE OF ALL OF YOUR KIDS. WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE DONE....YOU THINK?

 

[Ohiogal]

Yep I sure due a misdemeanor with a family member, AND what is your point?

That you do have a HISTORY OF CRIMINAL VIOLENCE.

Well AS I SAID BEFORE THERE IS A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE NOT ONLY AGAINST ME, AGAINST MY OLDEST SON, HE JUST THREATENED HIM THE OTHER DAY. YOU SHOULDN'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

Yet you don't mention a restraining order prohibiting him from knowing where HIS CHILD is. Therefore he has every right to know HIS DAUGHTER'S address of residence.

SHE IS MY DAUGHTER, WHY BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THE ONLY ONE TO CLOTHE, AND FEED HER, NEWSFLASH IT TAKES MORE TO BE A DAD THAN A COUPLE OF TRINKETS AND SOME I LOVE U'S. I LOVE YOU DOESN'T KEEP A ROOF OVER HER HEAD, CLOTHES ON HER BACK OR FOOD IN HER TUMMY! GET A CLUE!

You get a clue. You were not the only one that provided genetic material to this child. She is ALSO HIS DAUGHTER.

OF COURSE I HAVE A COURT ORDER FOR SUPPORT; DOES HE PAY OF COURSE NOT, HE'S A COMPUTER ENGINEER WITH A BACHELORS FROM U OF M; WENT TO THE COURT CLAIMING HE'S ONLY EARNING $8.50/HR GOT THE CHILD SUPPORT REDUCED AND HAVEN'T PAID SINCE. BUT U HAVE THE NERVE TO GET ON THIS BLOG ABOUT WHAT HE DESERVES.

This is NOT a blog. THIS is a legal advice site. And legally he has rights -- rights that you are interfering with. Did you prove that he earns more than that?

I DESERVED TO RECIEVE MY CHILD SUPPORT, I DESERVED TO HAVE HIM PAY THE MORTGAGE FOR THE HOUSE IN WHICH HE LIVED,

You deserve child support per the court order. You do NOT deserve to have him pay the mortgage.

I DESERVED TO HAVE HIM TAKE CARE OF HIS DAUGHTER OVER THE PAST 4 YEARS, I DESERVED TO HAVE HIM PUT FOOD IN THE HOUSE IN WHICH HE LIVED, HIS DAUGHTER'S WHO ARE 19 & 15 DESERVED A FATHER BUT NEVER GOT ONE! I CAN GO ON AND ON. DON'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT A JERK U HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT!

I am making no assumptions regarding him. I am basing my opinions on YOU and what YOU have posted. YOU are interfering with HIS rights. HE has a LEGAL RIGHT to know where his child lives -- until said time as a court determines otherwise.

DOES HE HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE,

Yes he does.

HE DOESN'T CARE WHERE THEY LIVE, MOM'S MATE IS A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY, HE CARES ABOUT HIS WELL BEING FIRST AND FOREMOST.

And? That is HIS choice. Doesn't change his rights.

HE SAID POINT BLANK HE WOULD NEVER GO TO THE CITY THEY LIVE IN; HE CHOOSES NOT TO KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE.

Doesn't change HIS RIGHT to know.

UHHHH..... IT'S CALLED A DEADBEAT DAD WHO DOESN'T WANT TO PAY SUPPORT! MATURITY WOULD BE TO PAY SUPPORT AND TAKE CARE OF ALL OF YOUR KIDS. WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE DONE....YOU THINK?

I think you are too ignorant and angry to care that legally you are in the wrong and LEGALLY he has a right to know where his daughter resides. Regardless of your bitterness and ranting and raving, YOU are in the wrong. He has EVERY RIGHT to know where his CHILDREN reside.

 

[stealth2]

He came before the court claiming my 5 week pit bull puppy bit her in the face when she hadn't been bit; I produced hospital records showing he was present at the hospital and concluded she is allergic to mosquito bites, statement from the daycare, etc; all to show she was not harmed by any puppy. To make a long story short, we went thru mediation; none of his accusations were found true; however the mediator, suggests a week to w

A FIVE wo puppy? Where is the mother (and litter mates)? Because you DO NOT remove a pup from its mother and litter mates that young unless you want to create severe socialization issues. Which, with a pit? Is a stupid thing to do. If you actually DO have a 5wo pup? Expect to start having problems as that dog gets older. Serious problems.

That bit alone tells me what sort of parent you are.

 

[michandil]

Yes, in Michigan you are obligated to file any change of address with the Friend of the Court. If he is dangerous, then get thee to court to request a PPO to protect you from his coming to your residence. But you are obligated to file the change of address. I would hate to see your case get sidetracked by this issue, which it could.

I'm curious: are you in Wayne County? It is very common for people in Wayne to not go through FOC for support payment and enforcement, i.e. to waive FOC involvement. I understand that you might not want to say where you are, in order to protect your privacy, but I just thought this sounded like a common problem in that jurisdiction- waiver of FOC involvement leading to confusion about the notice requirements. Even if all of these assumptions are true (you're in Wayne and you've waived FOC), you have to continue to comply with this term- providing your address.

 

[txmom512]

lol. okay look, honestly, i'd start putting CoCo in some training classes. just in case dad gets real dumb about things. to protect you, and your child. it's the safer thing to do.

and for the record. Dog is right. you have to prove unfitness. innocent until proven guilty. all that jazz.

Another thing you should most definitely do is to have your puppy spayed as soon as you can.

I foster rescue dogs and the one thing you hear most often is that the MOST dangerous dog is an UNALTERED dog - of Any breed.

 

[txmom512]

A FIVE wo puppy? Where is the mother (and litter mates)? Because you DO NOT remove a pup from its mother and litter mates that young unless you want to create severe socialization issues. Which, with a pit? Is a stupid thing to do. If you actually DO have a 5wo pup? Expect to start having problems as that dog gets older. Serious problems.

That bit alone tells me what sort of parent you are.

That's a Good point! Breeders & even puppymills aren't legally allowed to sell puppies until they are 8 weeks old.

Ideally, your puppy should not leave its mother and siblings until 10-12 weeks.

Stealth is right - you are going to have serious problems w/ your puppy later.

 

[Nevergrowup]

Sorry, blah blah blah about everything else you said. You have a pit bull puppy (too young to have separated) and you apparently think it is just dandy that you have a potentially dangerous animal around your growing child. All you can think about is that you won't be controlled by dad and you are going to keep your dog...why don't you consider that he might have a valid concern?

I'm not saying he deserves father of the year. But you are showing extremely poor judgement by having that animal around a small child, especially one that will have socialization issues by being separated too young from his litter and mother.

Hopefully your child won't be one on the news...you know, that story on every so often, "Family pet rips off childs face...he never showed any signs of aggression, Mom claims". I think Dad has a valid concern.

 

[AngryMom627]

And? Dad still has a right to know where HIS CHILD lives.

You have a record of violence in AZ.

Then you need to give him full custody of his child and walk away. HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE HIS CHILD IS.

NOT JUST YOUR DAUGHTER> His daughter as well. HE has a RIGHT to know where SHE lives.


You never answered -- is there a court order for support?

So? He has a right to know where they live as well. HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE HIS CHILDREN LIVE. And if one lives with you then he has a right to know your address because that is the address of his child.


So is maturity quite frankly. And you are not showing your maturity.

Yes, in Michigan you are obligated to file any change of address with the Friend of the Court. If he is dangerous, then get thee to court to request a PPO to protect you from his coming to your residence. But you are obligated to file the change of address. I would hate to see your case get sidetracked by this issue, which it could.

I'm curious: are you in Wayne County? It is very common for people in Wayne to not go through FOC for support payment and enforcement, i.e. to waive FOC involvement. I understand that you might not want to say where you are, in order to protect your privacy, but I just thought this sounded like a common problem in that jurisdiction- waiver of FOC involvement leading to confusion about the notice requirements. Even if all of these assumptions are true (you're in Wayne and you've waived FOC), you have to continue to comply with this term- providing your address.

No I'm not in Wayne County, I'm in Washtenaw, the current order gives me sole physical and joint legal, the order only states that I cannot leave the state w/ my child w/o court approval. Nothing is stated about my current address. I should have did the PPO back when the assault took place, but he wasn't paying the mortgage and my home foreclosed. I was more concerned with securing housing for my children and I. The lawyer I spoke to, told me I would have a hard time doing it now. Do u think this is so? The assault occurred Jan 2, 2008. I took pics that night and then 2 days later when the bruises appeared, I called and called the officer who came on the scene to show him the bruises, I never heard back. I have the police report and the pics, I presented them at mediation.

 

[AngryMom627]

Another thing you should most definitely do is to have your puppy spayed as soon as you can.

I foster rescue dogs and the one thing you hear most often is that the MOST dangerous dog is an UNALTERED dog - of Any breed.

Yes, I take her to the vet, I've been educated on spaying, plus he called out animal control, when he learned I had a puppy. She's been tested for signs of aggression - the agent said if she is going to be aggressive animal it will be when she catches her first heat. She advised to spay her before then or to keep her separated while she goes thru her change. She's interacted with other puppies on regular playdates successfully. I've only seen 1 bout of aggression - she was playing with my son's dog who just had her 1st heat and my son's dog had enough, she went after my puppy. I guess she wasn't in the playing mood. My pup went running scared to the car. But I am well educated on the care of the dog. This isn't my first one, I had one years ago, excellent guard dog. First and foremost you have to buy them from a responsible breeder, not from Joe on the street who fights dogs. I have that much sense. My daughter's father doesn't like dogs. I have a right to feel me and my children are safe. I have taken all precautions in the care and monitoring of the dog.