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johnnyboy84

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Do you understand what the word "credibility" means?

Good luck. I hope the children are healthy, well-adjusted and cared for.
I will answer in truth, the questions people ask of me:
Yes, I understand credibility, which does not matter for this particular situation of wanting a question answered! Understand that? My credibility is stupendous, as is my ability to ask hypothetical questions.

My son is healthy & well-adjusted, but not so well-cared for, so I am fighting for him; being patient with him & his mom & the system. Thanks for the well wishes though!
 


Proserpina

Senior Member
I will answer in truth, the questions people ask of me:
Yes, I understand credibility, which does not matter for this particular situation of wanting a question answered! Understand that? My credibility is stupendous, as is my ability to ask hypothetical questions.

My son is healthy & well-adjusted, but not so well-cared for, so I am fighting for him; being patient with him & his mom & the system. Thanks for the well wishes though!
Excellent.
 
I believe the BAH portion of the GI BILL may come into play in court (I forgot about it providing that) so you get tuition help (state school amount), BAH (as an E-5) and a certain amount for books (which is like BAS in a way even though it is not food but an allowance, so it may or may not be attached, as some Judges will attach and some won't)

Disability will be counted from my understanding (but you only get a small check for that if I am correct?)

Loans are loans and should not be counted. Nobody should have to pay on them twice unless in default.

Some Judges will input a minium income wage or use past history of employment (so past history of military basic pay wages if they are using GI BILL BAH)

Question? Is court order done in CA where you reside or is it in Mom's area?

I have found Judges think differently about military (even prior military) in different areas of country.
 
I do think medical and dental should be provided by both parents in one form or another. If Mom is providing that and you are unable to provide the coverage then you may need to pay a portion of premiums
 

TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
It may be too late at this point, but when mom was found on the east coast, I would have asked that MOM be responsible for the cost of travel since MOM was the one who moved to the east coast.

I would go for modifying the court order that would take advantage of virtual parenting time. That should include phone calls, webcam access, emailing and instant messaging. These should include a minimum amount of time specified for the parent who does NOT have the child with them. This means that when child comes to visit dad, mom has the same rights.

I would also include a certain amount of time that can be done as vacationing so that if you are in the mountains camping, you can enjoy the peace and quiet of no technology.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Wow! This thread got mean fast!



Yes! That is EXACTLY what I think! The military is very hard work, and one should be entitled to use the GI Bill, which they earned through sweat, blood & tears, for SCHOOL!



sounds fair to me!



agreed!

actually, this IS DAD, however, the situation is exactly the opposite! I am the three time Iraq war vet with 30%+ (some conditions still pending) disability, physical & some emotional, who joined the military to help pay for college & for benefits for my son. Before I was discharged, mom moved out of state without my permission. Now there is a custody battle & child support battle!

She wants the courts to take away from my GI Bill, my disability, school loans, and she's asking that I obtain a full time job while a full-time student and pay all of health insurance. I am paying for dental, can't afford medical for him at this moment, but he has it through her. I try to visit him out of my own pocket as much as possible, but it's clear across the country, so it hasn't been too much since she fled California. I agree with you all!

We are both responsible for our son, and I've been doing my part for the past 5 years. She's been underemployed the whole time and receiving medical (while in CA), but she claims that her job is stay-at-home mother, which I respect, however, it probably wouldn't fly if I wanted to be a stay-at-home dad.

I worked hard in the military so I could focus on school when it was time. Now, she's asking the courts to put me in a situation where I may need to drop-out and move back in with my parents, as I won't be able to afford rent if they raise child support anymore.

Now, the QUESTION is: can the courts take from MY GI bill, disability, schools loans & force me to get a full-time job? I already found a part-time job on campus because child-support requested it, but I can only work a max of 15 hrs per week, and she's saying it's not enough. What am I looking against here?
So you lied to us from the get-go. Well, maybe others will want to help you. I don't. Thank you for your service, but I don't want to get involved in your lies - who knows what else you're lying about. Just a waste of time.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Wow! This thread got mean fast!



Yes! That is EXACTLY what I think! The military is very hard work, and one should be entitled to use the GI Bill, which they earned through sweat, blood & tears, for SCHOOL!



sounds fair to me!



agreed!

actually, this IS DAD, however, the situation is exactly the opposite! I am the three time Iraq war vet with 30%+ (some conditions still pending) disability, physical & some emotional, who joined the military to help pay for college & for benefits for my son. Before I was discharged, mom moved out of state without my permission. Now there is a custody battle & child support battle!

She wants the courts to take away from my GI Bill, my disability, school loans, and she's asking that I obtain a full time job while a full-time student and pay all of health insurance. I am paying for dental, can't afford medical for him at this moment, but he has it through her. I try to visit him out of my own pocket as much as possible, but it's clear across the country, so it hasn't been too much since she fled California. I agree with you all!

We are both responsible for our son, and I've been doing my part for the past 5 years. She's been underemployed the whole time and receiving medical (while in CA), but she claims that her job is stay-at-home mother, which I respect, however, it probably wouldn't fly if I wanted to be a stay-at-home dad.

I worked hard in the military so I could focus on school when it was time. Now, she's asking the courts to put me in a situation where I may need to drop-out and move back in with my parents, as I won't be able to afford rent if they raise child support anymore.

Now, the QUESTION is: can the courts take from MY GI bill, disability, schools loans & force me to get a full-time job? I already found a part-time job on campus because child-support requested it, but I can only work a max of 15 hrs per week, and she's saying it's not enough. What am I looking against here?
So basically you are a liar. Congrats. You will get no help from me and from most seniors who know what they are doing because we don't like liars.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
I will answer in truth, the questions people ask of me:
Yes, I understand credibility, which does not matter for this particular situation of wanting a question answered! Understand that? My credibility is stupendous, as is my ability to ask hypothetical questions.

My son is healthy & well-adjusted, but not so well-cared for, so I am fighting for him; being patient with him & his mom & the system. Thanks for the well wishes though!
Credibility does matter. You are a liar from the get go. You may have been military but supposedly those in the military have HONOR. Liars however have NONE. You have proven yourself a liar. Which means you have no honor and are a disgrace to the uniform. Your credibility is non existent and quite frankly you should have been honest from the get go instead of being a lying pathetic example of humanity.
And with a liar for a father (allegedly) I wouldn't count on your child (if you have one) growing up well adjusted. Poor child will probably learn that it is okay to lie if it suits the situation. Nice parenting skills you liar.
 
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Ohiogal

Queen Bee
thank you for answering my question! :D

I was stationed in Southern CA but maintained residency in my hometown (also CA), where my son was living. I asked her for partial custody once I was discharged, she refused, so I told her I would submit an order for modification of custody. She moved one month before I was discharged and cancelled her phone, telling me she couldn't afford it but saying she & my son would still be at the same address. She never notified me or the courts of her move to the East Coast, leaving me to think she was still there. It wasn't until she couldn't be found to subpoena and a lot of drama, that I finally found out where she had taken my son. Child support services & CPS couldn't help me with an address or phone number, which is understandable.

Now, I only have 1% custody, she asked the courts to allow me to call my son ONLY 2 times per week, at her discretion. She wants supervised visitation when I visit him on the east coast because she claims to not trust me, despite my frequent & alone visitations with him while I was not deployed. She encourages him to not call me dad, & that I'm only his biological father, but not REAL father, and for him to say he doesn't love me. I don't try to push him, but it will only end up hurting my son in the end. I know this is irrelevant, just ranting. This is my situation, but luckily, jurisdiction is still in CA!
Sorry but you are a liar. Once a liar always a liar and you cannot be trusted. How do we know you are not lying about this?
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
And this is really not difficult either:
Think of this as a hypothetical situation followed by a question of ethics. I don't need you to believe me, and you are not the court. All I'm asking for is an answer to my questions. They've been answered, except for:

Does it really make a difference for YOU whether it was the mom's GI Bill, etc. vs, the dad's? I'm not asking if it would make a difference in court, I'm asking if you would have given similar responses if it had been phrased the other way around! If it does make a difference, WHY?!? If it doesn't matter, why do you need to know whether I'm male or female and if I'm telling the truth to answer a simple question that has nothing to do with my character?
;););)
A question of ethics? YOU have no ethics. You have no honor> YOU are a liar. Got it? Because you started with lies everything else is seen as a lie. Go pay an attorney.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
I believe the BAH portion of the GI BILL may come into play in court (I forgot about it providing that) so you get tuition help (state school amount), BAH (as an E-5) and a certain amount for books (which is like BAS in a way even though it is not food but an allowance, so it may or may not be attached, as some Judges will attach and some won't)

Disability will be counted from my understanding (but you only get a small check for that if I am correct?)

Loans are loans and should not be counted. Nobody should have to pay on them twice unless in default.

Some Judges will input a minium income wage or use past history of employment (so past history of military basic pay wages if they are using GI BILL BAH)

Question? Is court order done in CA where you reside or is it in Mom's area?

I have found Judges think differently about military (even prior military) in different areas of country.
You expect this lying deceitful OP to provide you with HONEST answers so that you can give actual advice? Seriously he is a LIAR. He is not credible. He will do whatever takes to put himself in the best light. He is dishonorable, deceitful and pathetic.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
It may be too late at this point, but when mom was found on the east coast, I would have asked that MOM be responsible for the cost of travel since MOM was the one who moved to the east coast.

I would go for modifying the court order that would take advantage of virtual parenting time. That should include phone calls, webcam access, emailing and instant messaging. These should include a minimum amount of time specified for the parent who does NOT have the child with them. This means that when child comes to visit dad, mom has the same rights.

I would also include a certain amount of time that can be done as vacationing so that if you are in the mountains camping, you can enjoy the peace and quiet of no technology.
Tink he is a liar. Maybe he should only have supervised visits due to the fact that he has no credibility and cannot be trusted to do what is in the best interest of his child. Heck maybe he doesnt' even have a child. He can't be trusted to actually state FACTS. He needs to make things up and make it look better due to "ethics". Of which liars do not have ethics. At least not any ethics that are worthwhile.
 
You expect this lying deceitful OP to provide you with HONEST answers so that you can give actual advice? Seriously he is a LIAR. He is not credible. He will do whatever takes to put himself in the best light. He is dishonorable, deceitful and pathetic.


I will hope that he does come back and from this point on provides honest answers.

I do think he has made mistakes that he needs to rectify and if he is willing to be honest, I will help him with any knowledge I can.
 
If I believed all liars could not be trusted at some time then my EX would have never received time with our kids ever. As he was a great story teller, even to the point he lied about his family.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
I will hope that he does come back and from this point on provides honest answers.

I do think he has made mistakes that he needs to rectify and if he is willing to be honest, I will help him with any knowledge I can.
Really? How are you going to know that he is being honest about anything? Seriously. He has stated falsehoods before. Now you are just going to take what he says at face value? IN court one lie is enough to destroy his credibility. And he purposely lied on here. he was not wrong or incorrect but he was LYING.
 
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