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spikester40

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Idaho. I live in subsidized housing and recently lost my job. I am up for recertification and my landlord gave me a letter stating I have to sign up for unemployment before they can refigure my rent. There is a second income in my household and I chose not to get unemployment because there are others who need it more than I do. Can they force me to sign up for unemployment?
 


racer72

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Idaho. I live in subsidized housing and recently lost my job. I am up for recertification and my landlord gave me a letter stating I have to sign up for unemployment before they can refigure my rent. There is a second income in my household and I chose not to get unemployment because there are others who need it more than I do. Can they force me to sign up for unemployment?
The landlord cannot make you sign up for unemployment. But he can figure in the amount you would receive in unemployment in determining your revised rent amount.

FYI, the moneys paid to those who collect unemployment is not a set amount, if you get unemployment it does not mean others will get less or nothing. Your ex employer will be paying a portion of it. The only person your screwing is yourself.
 
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ecmst12

Senior Member
Not applying for UC is dumb. And YOUR LANDLORD is apparently one of the people who needs the money more then you. Not to mention the state agency which is providing your rent subsidy.
 

spikester40

Junior Member
Thank you for your help and no, I don't think comments were rude or otherwise. I guess the reason I didn't sign up for unemployment was because my sig other and I could survive on what he brings in. Thanks for your help and advice. Will take any other constructive criticism and help that is offered. Thanks again.
 

BL

Senior Member
Thank you for your help and no, I don't think comments were rude or otherwise. I guess the reason I didn't sign up for unemployment was because my sig other and I could survive on what he brings in. Thanks for your help and advice. Will take any other constructive criticism and help that is offered. Thanks again.
What help ?

Housing / management is required to collect ALL income verifications .

You need to sign up for UB and provide that info. verification .

If you do not , you could jeopardize your lease .

Also , read your requirements and addendums from when you first signed up signed and rented .
 

Cvillecpm

Senior Member
EMC is correct and Yes * your landlord can require that you have INCOME and if you do not have a job, you need to have unemployment income. You and your former employers PAID into the fund that MAKES these payments possible.

Get a JOB or get UNEMPLOYMENT and pay your rent.
 

sandyclaus

Senior Member
If you are receiving a rent subsidy, the agency paying your rent will require that you have income of your own - either from employment or unemployment benefits. If you neither seek and obtain a new job or sign up for unemployment in the meantime, you risk losing that subsidy.

If you're able to make rent without employment or other income for yourself, then it stands to reason that you must not really need that subsidy, do you?
 

spikester40

Junior Member
OK, the thing is, I'm not trying to get out of paying rent. My sig other is a paraplegic and I was getting paid to take care of him until the cutbacks in medicaid. Granted, there will be a drop in our rent if I am not working, but who will be home to take care of my sweetheart. Now we could have another aide come in, which he doesn't feel comfortable with. I could go back to work and our rent would raise. I think hiring an aide to come would cost the government more than me just staying home and taking care of him and our rent dropping. We have lived in our apartment for 4 years and have never missed a payment. We make do with what little money we have. I'm not trying to get out of paying my rent and I've worked for 25 years 40 hours a week, missed one day of work in those 25 years. Believe me, work does not scare me. Losing my sweetheart to a problem that may happen when I'm not there does.
 

ecmst12

Senior Member
I don't see what any of that has to do with applying for unemployment or complying with the rules of the subsidized housing.
 

Wyldrush

Member
NO ONE can force you to collect unemployment. Your LL can evict you if you can not pay the rent however. I am assuming your LL is being nice and willing to reduce rent if you collect unemployment since he knows your income has dropped. This is being nice I never reduce rent on my tenants. Sorry it is a written contract and my rents are based on debt servicing and profits of the rental unit.

Unemployment does not effect you in anyways. I come across many people who say they are to proud to collect. That is all BS. Each dollar you earn, has a percentage going to the unemployment fund. It is rightfully your money, so go collect it, keep paying your rent, be glad you have a nice LL willing to revised your rent for long term tenant.
 

Cvillecpm

Senior Member
GOT IT....you don't want to have to LOOK FOR WORK to be eligible for unemployment because you want to STAY HOME.....

You are SCAMMING the system.
 

commentator

Senior Member
Since unemployment is a bit of trouble, and one must do things, such as work searches and weekly certifications in order to get the money, a lot of people think it would be less trouble to simply say, "Others need it more than I...." and eke out their survival in other ways. They also think they are getting points for nobility, refusing to take a "hand out." But in reality, it's the requirements, the trouble involved in getting the benefits that cause most noble refusals.

In many states, qualification for any sort of income assisted or based services require that if a person is discharged or laid off or voluntarily quits a job, they have to go through the process of filing for unemployment benefits. This is both in order to keep receiving the level of services they have in the past, and in order to receive on-going services such as Food Stamps, low income housing assistance, or Medicaid, or aid for dependent children.

Unemployment insurance is not income based, or considered a finance support program. It would be as dumb to refuse it if laid off as to say "I elect not to receive my social security retirement, but I want you to classify me as low income anyhow and give me the services I need based on my income without my using this money."

While you can elect to be this dumb personally, you can't do it and still receive low income assistance of any kind based on state grants if such is the regulation in your state. What your landlord in this subsidized housing would do is not calculate your income based on what you would be getting, he has no access to the amount of your claim or even whether or not you would be qualified. But he can, if the subsidized housing is part of the state income support system, require you to go through the process of filing for your benefits or face eviction procedings. When you receive income subsidies, you are forced to comply with their regulations.
 
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sandyclaus

Senior Member
So the way I hear ir is this: OP is sponging off sig. other's rent subsidy. As long as there is no other household income, the subsidy remains the same or more (OP pays less rent). But if OP is forced to bring in something to the household, then subsidy goes down and that income now must be paid towards rent (instead of other fun things).

The way I see it, everything evens out in the end. LL still gets their rent. But in scenario #1 above OP gets to choose not to work or collect unemployment for not doing so. Scenario #2 puts them "on the map", spotlights them as someone shortchanging the rent subsidy system. They haven't had to work for their rent for so long that they don't want to draw attention to themselves now and spoil their gravy train.
 

spikester40

Junior Member
I am NOT scamming the system. You fail to realize that my top priority is to the man I love. To make sure his needs are met because he is a paraplegic. In a wheelchair for 25 years and cannot be home alone.
 

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