that is also my personal thoughts.....but keeping his kids in mind, they are young, just lost their mother, and are used to seeing these people regularly.....the great grandmother provides childcare and continues to do so.....they are staying in the same town until at least the end of the school year, so they will be close to the grandparents house.....my thoughts are to get something fair put down in the order for visitation and depending on how these people want to treat him, let him decide on any extra time.....they have not been very nice so far, so we will see......he has no intention of ripping his kids out of their lives.....he just wants what is fair and time for him and the kids to get used to all the newness.....the grandparents have been holding the children since their mothers death, so i dont exactly see them as very trustworthy at this point.....he had to go to mediation to even get visitation with his kids (the mother had physical custody up to her death, but they had joint custody according to the divorce decree on October 28, 2009)....and the transition period to get these kids into his custody full time has begun.....im hoping that something can get hammered out and keep these kids' lives as normal as possible after all they have been though!