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jhildreth

Junior Member
michigan,
i went to court for embezzlement when i worked at kmart when i was 15 and they told me just, dont get into ay trouble for six months and pay back kmart the money for the stuff i gave away. well i am 23 now wanting to join the detroit police department, so i called the juvanile court and said there is no record of me, so it probably was put on a abaence calendar. will the police find out about it when i go for my backround investigation
 


Ohiogal

Queen Bee
michigan,
i went to court for embezzlement when i worked at kmart when i was 15 and they told me just, dont get into ay trouble for six months and pay back kmart the money for the stuff i gave away. well i am 23 now wanting to join the detroit police department, so i called the juvanile court and said there is no record of me, so it probably was put on a abaence calendar. will the police find out about it when i go for my backround investigation
You are going to lie to the police department when you apply?
 

cyjeff

Senior Member
You are going to lie to the police department when you apply?
Addition...

You are going to lie to the police department about your criminal record when you apply?

I assure you that the police department background check will see things that most background checks won't.

Something about not wanting criminals as law enforcement.

Your juvenile record may not come into play... unless you lie about it.
 

quincy

Senior Member
I agree with cyjeff and Ohiogal that you should not lie about the embezzlement, whether it shows up on a background check or not.

It may not make a difference in your becoming a Detroit police officer anyway.

In Michigan, embezzlement can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony, and it can be charged under municipal ordinances or under state law. You cannot become a Detroit Police Officer if you have a FELONY conviction (even if the felony was expunged), but if you were given at age 15 a six month probation and ordered to pay restitution, it sounds as if your KMart embezzlement was a misdemeanor and you were offered diversion.

You can go to www.detroit.mi.gov/PoliceDepartment/PoliceJobOpenings/tabid/792/Default.aspx., by the way, to see the requirements for being a Detroit Police Officer. You can also download an application while you're there.

With the diversion program, upon satisfactory completion of all terms of the program and with no additional violations during your probationary period, the charges against you are dismissed. There is no public record of your arrest or charges, BUT the record is often still accessible by law enforcement. Sealed and expunged records are also accessible to law enforcement.

In fact, even on regular employment background checks, the FACT that a record was sealed or expunged may appear, even if there are no details as to WHAT exactly was sealed or expunged. A regular background check will NOT, however, show your juvenile arrest on embezzlement charges if you completed the diversion program and the charges were dismissed (or shouldn't, at any rate - errors happen).

If you want to, you can run a criminal background check on yourself. You can go to MSP - Michigan State Police and click on "ICHAT." For $10, you can access your own criminal history.

You may want to Google Judge Greg Mathis, to see all that he accomplished even with a rather rocky youth. And, if the police department thing doesn't work out, I believe having embezzlement in your past does not preclude you from being mayor of Detroit, or from being on the Detroit City Council. ;)
 
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jhildreth

Junior Member
well thanks guys, i know you guys posted that a while ago. I did not lie on my application. lol im not stupid, i know they would have seen the court date when i went to court. I contacted the cheif of police for detroit and talked to him and he told me when your a kid your not thinking really about the future and kids make mistakes. so i applied and got to the mcoles physical exam and failed it, so i had to wait six moths to re-apply. so i quit smoking and started running and im ready for it now. but i really was not going to try and hide the k-mart thing.
 

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