Children service nightmare

[minnietwo]

Child is diagnosed bipolar 2 and on depakote

 

[Just Blue]

Why on EARTH is your LEGAL STRANGER husband "cracking" your CHILD in the ear? Did you ever bother to investigate how to discipline a child with neurological issues? Doubtful, as the VERY WORST THING TO DO IS HITTING.

Done.

 

[Ohiogal]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Ohio

I am writing regarding my daughters allegation. This same child a year ago told my husband (her stepdad) she would take his hunting gun and blow his brains out. When she did that he went and cracked her. The next day school nurse called said ear is swollen no bleeding or puncture can they give her some allergy medicine, and that they had to report to children service. CSB came to home 2 days later and next day I took her to Dr like they asked, Dr stated daughter had fresh blood in her ear and a hole. This was 3 days after she was cracked, Dr stated that daughter stuck something in ear. CSB asked for drug test and sassi from child and closed case unsubstantiated and that child is unruly. We begged them for help because I knew she would increase her tacticts. They only offered some counseling, even though this child has been involved in Mental health services since 7 for ADHD, oppositional defiance, and then bipolar treatment since age 13. (she has constant contact with mandated reporters since 7)

The past year daughter continued to be unruly, fail classes, get expelled and tell us over and over she was going to have us thrown in jail and she does not have to listen to our rules.

The past 1 1/2 has been hell and a toll on my marriage. Well the end of May 2010 she made an accusation that a month before husband was drunk fell on an air mattress and grabbed her breast. We where at my parents with myself in the room, and parents in their room and she did not say anything until a month later?

I realized that I needed to separate her and husband so I moved out. My parents told me she is just trying to destroying marriage so she can run streets. They had tried to care for her a year ago and sent her back because she was uncontrollable after 12 days.

Well within a few weeks she was telling me she was going to have me arrested and called police because I was strict with her. When police came she stated that I was going to move back to husband and told about him grabbing breast. When they said it was out of their jurisdiction(alleged incident was MXXX county, we live in XXXX county Ohio) She said well he opened the shower door and wrestled with me at XXXX county residence.

I waited a few weeks for CSB to contact if they where to pursue. Then sent daughter to parents in XXXXX county and moved home to husband because I have 2 young boys who need mom. Of course now CSB (home) county called. They asked XXXXX county to do courtesy interview, they did and her story changed with them. XXXXX county decided not worth investigation but home county is harassing us. They wanted husband to do polygraph we contacted lawyer he said hell no. Now they are pushing for my parents to bring daughter 2 1/2 hours up here for a Interview with children's advocacy center. They also came to home to meet with us and our attorney Friday and told us did we know daughter tested positive for pot last year when CSB took test. (WE WHERE NEVER TOLD!) I was horrified, we have a child sticking things in ear to have us arrested and smoking pot and they would not help us. But now are saying they have to believe her hugging breast allegations and are pursuing us.

This is where we are concerned, they are really fishing and pushing for info. They don't have a formal statement from her yet. I think that she will show she is lying at interview. But then I am concerned that they could twist or misinterpret this interview.

My question is: What could happen if we refuse to allow them to do forensic interview with her?

Sorry this is so long.

Do not allow them to do an interview with her.

 

[davew128]

Why on EARTH is your LEGAL STRANGER husband "cracking" your CHILD in the ear? Did you ever bother to investigate how to discipline a child with neurological issues? Doubtful, as the VERY WORST THING TO DO IS HITTING.

As opposed to listening to and taking the chance she would follow through on the threat to blow his brains out? The girl should grateful thats ALL that was done.

 

[Proserpina]

As opposed to listening to and taking the chance she would follow through on the threat to blow his brains out? The girl should grateful thats ALL that was done.

This is a child with SERIOUS neurological issues. Do you really think cracking her around the head is an appropriate disciplinary response?

What ALL else would YOU have done, exactly?

OP, you NEED to be speaking with an attorney about this.

 

[davew128]

This is a child with SERIOUS neurological issues. Do you really think cracking her around the head is an appropriate disciplinary response?

What ALL else would YOU have done, exactly?

I'd have done THE SAME THING. Threatening to blow my brains out goes beyond mere unruly behavior, and quite honestly this isn't a young child we're talking about. If the kid has serious neurological issues, LOCK HER UP. I assure you, once she turns 18, nobody is going to want to hear it.

 

[Proserpina]

I'd have done THE SAME THING. Threatening to blow my brains out goes beyond mere unruly behavior, and quite honestly this isn't a young child we're talking about. If the kid has serious neurological issues, LOCK HER UP. I assure you, once she turns 18, nobody is going to want to hear it.

Nobody is disputing that this child needs help.

But YOU are advocating violent behavior to correct...violent behavior.

We know how that works.

(Clue: It doesn't)

"LOCK HER UP" is also entirely too simplistic an answer.

 

[Isis1]

I'm sorry. Wait. No I'm not. If my husband cracked ANY OF MY CHILDREN, I would have pulled out that shotgun and shot him myself. You know what? I hope my husband sees this. There is NO WAY, he would live to defend himself for touching my children. Ever.

 

[stealth2]

One must wonder what stepdad did to warrant such a reaction from the child...

 

[minnietwo]

Cps

Stepdad who has been in teens life since she was 18 months old and we both have been aware of her serious issues. I never said where he cracked her, she made the complaint about her ear the next day.

And why did she say that to him? He took her IPOD away from her earlier.

This child is ADHD and Biploar she had NO and I mean NO impulse control. That is why she goes through friends like water. So I am well aware of the issues she has and facing in her future. I have been battling to prevent the road she is facing as adult her whole life. Like I said she has been with mental health services since 6. Her BIO where the gentics is from, is actually a convict who is homeless, abuses drugs and in and out of prision.

I have worked in a mental health/ drug treatment center for 5 years in a womans recovery program and I know what I am up against.

I begged CPS for help last year and I came hear asking for help.

 

[Proserpina]

Stepdad who has been in teens life since she was 18 months old and we both have been aware of her serious issues. I never said where he cracked her, she made the complaint about her ear the next day.

And why did she say that to him? He took her IPOD away from her earlier.

This child is ADHD and Biploar she had NO and I mean NO impulse control. That is why she goes through friends like water. So I am well aware of the issues she has and facing in her future. I have been battling to prevent the road she is facing as adult her whole life. Like I said she has been with mental health services since 6. Her BIO where the gentics is from, is actually a convict who is homeless, abuses drugs and in and out of prision.

I have worked in a mental health/ drug treatment center for 5 years in a womans recovery program and I know what I am up against.

I begged CPS for help last year and I came hear asking for help.

So "cracking" her elsewhere is equally ok? You should, as the parent of a child with neurological issues, know better than that.

And don't forget that 50% of her genetic makeup comes from you.

 

[Just Blue]

Stepdad who has been in teens life since she was 18 months old and we both have been aware of her serious issues. I never said where he cracked her, she made the complaint about her ear the next day.

And why did she say that to him? He took her IPOD away from her earlier.

This child is ADHD and Biploar she had NO and I mean NO impulse control. That is why she goes through friends like water. So I am well aware of the issues she has and facing in her future. I have been battling to prevent the road she is facing as adult her whole life. Like I said she has been with mental health services since 6. Her BIO where the gentics is from, is actually a convict who is homeless, abuses drugs and in and out of prision.

I have worked in a mental health/ drug treatment center for 5 years in a womans recovery program and I know what I am up against.

I begged CPS for help last year and I came hear asking for help.

This child is ADHD and Biploar she had NO and I mean NO impulse control.

So...What is hubby's "impulse control" issues stem from? As an ADULT that has been exposed to this CHILD'S NON (SELF)CONTROLLABLE NEUROLOGICAL PROBLEMS...Why does HE think it is "okay" to ASSAULT a LITTLE child that has said problems? And WHY do YOU think it is dandy as well?

 

[CdwJava]

My question is: What could happen if we refuse to allow them to do forensic interview with her?

If you do not allow the interview, they can seek a court order to compel the interview. They might also seek a court order to remove the child from the home citing it as an unsafe environment.

It might also be possible that they will have too little to go to a judge with and things will stay as they were.

The family needs counseling and help. Blaming ADHD, "oppositional defiance" or "bipolar disorder" is not going to cut it unless she has truly been clinically diagnosed and is receiving actual treatment for these disorders. Far too often parents (and others) say that someone has something because another doctor, therapist, teacher, or even a police officer says they think the child has the disorder. Until a medical professional proclaims this diagnosis it is largely irrelevant.

It may well be advisable to consult legal counsel. If child services is involved, chances are they are not going to go away quietly.

 

[davew128]

Nobody is disputing that this child needs help.

But YOU are advocating violent behavior to correct...violent behavior.

Most people would consider that self defense. A near adult with a history of erratic and violent behavior threatens to grab a shotgun and blow someone's brains out? Would you suggest turning the other cheek with a loaded barrel pointed at it? Seriously?

 

[davew128]

I'm sorry. Wait. No I'm not. If my husband cracked ANY OF MY CHILDREN, I would have pulled out that shotgun and shot him myself. You know what? I hope my husband sees this. There is NO WAY, he would live to defend himself for touching my children. Ever.

So you would rather defend a nutjob child who just threatened his life instead of the guy who defended himself.