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mrkristopher

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Hello All,

I've created a puppet robot character and named him 'Einsteinabot'. Can I legally use this name? I created a children's DVD with him as the main character.

Einsteinabot is a robot puppet who sings learning music videos to children. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you for your time and attention.

Sincerely,
 
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quincy

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The Hebrew University of Jerusalem owns copyrights and trademark rights in all things Einstein.

The Einstein name and image are not in the public domain.

You should have your puppet/robot character and your children's DVD reviewed by an IP attorney prior to display and sale, to best prevent having your Einsteinabot character attract a very expensive infringement lawsuit. There are, in fact, a couple of "Einstein" infringement suits working their way through the court system right now.

You may need to acquire a license from the rights holder in order to use the name in your product.
 
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quincy

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For mrkristopher's benefit, an explanation:

A poster calling himself "Iknowwherewaldo" was making a bit of a pest of himself and spamming the forum. The forum members above were responding to posts made by Iknowwherewaldo, posts of which have since been deleted. ;)
 
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mrkristopher

Junior Member
The name Einsteinabot?

Thank you for your responses. I've reached out to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and no one there has returned my messages requesting clarification in using the term, Einsteinabot.

From the responses above, my question were not if I can use the name Einstein, but if it's ok to use a robot puppet character I created called, EINSTEINABOT.

Now I understand I'm not to use the name and likeness of Elvis Presly, but if I created a toy and called it Preslybot, could I be sued by Elvis' rights owners?

I've noticed when I say 'Einsteinabot', people conveniently leave off the 'ABOT' part and then proceed to say.. "No no, you can't use Albert Einstein." Will using the name I created, the name EINSTEINABOT, only matter when I'm making some money off it? Einsteinabot is an original name. Einsteinabot is a 3 dimensional robot puppet I created. Going forward there won't be any little white haired Einstein looking puppet in future videos, but the kids adore 'Einsteinabot', the Robot Puppet. They actually don't care what his name is. I'd like to continue using the term, Einsteinabot.

Einsteinabot has already been published. Our sales are mostly made in at live shows and on Amazon. He's a learning tool for children. If the attorney's from Albert Einstein's camp in Jerusalem want to sue a children's learning character for infringement, then I think it would be great publicity for Einsteinabot. Isn't that what happened with 'Baby Einstein' and 'Little Einstein's?

If anyone here would like to report Einsteinabot to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, be my guest. I really would like to hear what they have to say. Thank you for your comments and input. -Kris
 

Zigner

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Thank you for your responses. I've reached out to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and no one there has returned my messages requesting clarification in using the term, Einsteinabot.

From the responses above, my question were not if I can use the name Einstein, but if it's ok to use a robot puppet character I created called, EINSTEINABOT.

Now I understand I'm not to use the name and likeness of Elvis Presly, but if I created a toy and called it Preslybot, could I be sued by Elvis' rights owners?

I've noticed when I say 'Einsteinabot', people conveniently leave off the 'ABOT' part and then proceed to say.. "No no, you can't use Albert Einstein." Will using the name I created, the name EINSTEINABOT, only matter when I'm making some money off it? Einsteinabot is an original name. Einsteinabot is a 3 dimensional robot puppet I created. Going forward there won't be any little white haired Einstein looking puppet in future videos, but the kids adore 'Einsteinabot', the Robot Puppet. They actually don't care what his name is. I'd like to continue using the term, Einsteinabot.

Einsteinabot has already been published. Our sales are mostly made in at live shows and on Amazon. He's a learning tool for children. If the attorney's from Albert Einstein's camp in Jerusalem want to sue a children's learning character for infringement, then I think it would be great publicity for Einsteinabot. Isn't that what happened with 'Baby Einstein' and 'Little Einstein's?

If anyone here would like to report Einsteinabot to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, be my guest. I really would like to hear what they have to say. Thank you for your comments and input. -Kris
I'm sorry, what were you here for? You had not only decided to infringe, you already DID infringe. :rolleyes:
 
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mrkristopher

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The name Einsteinabot

You can look at the videos and see that they were created by me. Is anyone familiar with the term fair use? When I copyrighted the Einsteinabot Multiplication DVD over at the Library Of Congress and it was stamped by them, there is no indication that I had violated anything.

Zigner, just because you say infringement was made, doesn't make it necessarily so. If you're going to respond so enthusiastically, can you please prove your claims of infringement?

Please concentrate on the name 'EINSTEINABOT'. Address that name please. Until now, have you ever heard the word Einsteinabot? I registered it and own the domain name to it and have created music videos to it.

Also Zigner, if you're not an attorney, please let an attorney speak or type on the issue.

Best, -
 
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Proserpina

Senior Member
You can look at the videos and see that they were created by me. Is anyone familiar with the term fair use? When I copyrighted the Einsteinabot Multiplication DVD over at the Library Of Congress and it was stamped by them, there is no indication that I had violated anything.

Zigner, just because you say infringement was made, doesn't make it necessarily so. If you're going to respond so enthusiastically, can you please prove your claims of infringement?

Please concentrate on the name 'EINSTEINABOT'. Address that name please. Until now, have you ever heard the word Einsteinabot? I registered it and own the domain name to it and have created music videos to it.

Also Zigner, if you're not an attorney, please let an attorney speak or type on the issue.

Best, -


You need to read the TOS of this site.

And then, feel free to pay a local attorney to answer your questions.
 
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mrkristopher

Junior Member
Einsteinabot / ebot

What is TOS?

I'll be sure to contact the California Lawyer for The Arts and The Roger Richman Agency.

I'm sure if I get to the point where I'm being sued, I'll be really on to something BIG!! Until then, I'll continue to create and market my product, Einsteinabot.... or for you trigger happy lawsuit driven folks, EBOT. There.... HAPPY!!!!

Thanks All! No hard feelings.
 
What is TOS?

I'll be sure to contact the California Lawyer for The Arts and The Roger Richman Agency.

I'm sure if I get to the point where I'm being sued, I'll be really on to something BIG!! Until then, I'll continue to create and market my product, Einsteinabot.... or for you trigger happy lawsuit driven folks, EBOT. There.... HAPPY!!!!

Thanks All! No hard feelings.
Ha, good one. I laughed at this post. I don't see why a hebrew organization would even deal with einstein. He was a german.
 

quincy

Senior Member
Albert Einstein long-supported the establishment of a Jewish university in Israel and, in his will, he left to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (of which he was a founder), and to Princeton University, his personal papers and all intellectual property rights to his writings, and all property and publicity rights in his name and image and other aspects of his persona.

These rights (which earn around $18 million a year for HUJ) are protected vigorously, and the Hebrew University has not exactly been shy about filing lawsuits against infringers of these rights. There is a lot of money at stake.

The list of suits is an extensive one. To name a few, there was a suit over the use of Einstein's image in an "Ideas can be sexy" General Motors ad (one of my favorite ads, by the way ;)), and over Einstein quotes used on a (young kid's) website (which forced the website's closure), and over the use of his image in a cosmetics ad.

Currently a disguise company in New Jersey is involved in a "preemptive" suit filed against the Hebrew University over the novelty company's Einstein disguise kit, a suit to determine in part how far the trademark rights in the Einstein name and image should extend.

Greenlight is authorized to handle the licensing of rights for the Hebrew University (and to enforce these rights), so this is who to contact for information on your use of the "Einsteinabot" character (and for a license to the use any aspect of Albert Einstein's persona). You can go directly to www.greenlightrights.com or you can visit the Albert Einstein site to learn about the rights held by the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (www.albert-einstein.org/.index.html).

The Baby Einstein products that you mentioned acquired licensing rights to the Einstein name for their Baby Einstein, Einstein Pals and Little Einsteins products (see Baby Einstein - Legal Notices), so it is possible that rights may be granted for your uses (although an additional concern is that your Einsteinabot products may be seen as infringing on the Baby Einstein licensing rights as well as the Hebrew University rights).

One of the reasons you probably used the "Einstein" name for your product is the very reason why a suit may materialize over your use. You yourself say that people often leave off the "abot" portion of the name and focus on the "Einstein" part. You probably chose "Einstein" instead of, say, "SmartGuyRobot" because of the attention the "Einstein" name attracts. Whatever the case, without having obtained licensing rights in the name (and image, if your puppet resembles Albert Einstein), your use of "Einsteinabot" for your robot/puppet products is liable to attract not only attention you desire but a lawsuit you may not desire - or, at the very least, it is liable to attract a cease and desist letter and a demand for dollars (many, many dollars).

Whether you will receive a C&D or whether you will be sued for infringement, or whether you could win such a suit should one be filed against you, is a definite question mark. The outcome of the "Forum Novelties" New Jersey suit may give you a better idea of where you might stand with your puppet character.

But, whether you were to ultimately win or to lose an infringement suit filed against you (for trademark infringement or publicity rights infringement), I can guarantee that any court fight over your use is bound to be a prolonged and expensive one.

I always believe it is better to take preventive measures to avoid lawsuits. If you are already marketing your DVD and products, however, it is probably a little late for preventive measures - and, from the sounds of it, you are planning on playing the odds anyway. It even sounds as if you want to be sued, as a way to draw attention to your puppet/robot character.

If that is the case, there is really little you need to do other than what you are doing, although you may perhaps consider starting a "lawsuit fund" with any profits you may realize from the sales of your products. Should you be served with a summons and a complaint, I recommend you hire a very good IP attorney to handle the lawsuit for you.

One final note: If you created an "Elvisbot" or a "Presleybot" to capitalize off Elvis Presley fame, you can be sued. Even an Elvis impersonator has been sued by the Presley estate in the past for violating the publicity rights held by Elvis Presley Enterprises. Some "Elvis suits" have been won, others lost.
 
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mrkristopher

Junior Member
Einsteinabot

What about fair use?

Also, if we went ahead and started calling him ESTEINABOT (pronounced 'steen') would that help? Or if we used the word 'STEINABOT' with no 'Ein' in front of it?

I can't change what's already been done. I can however adjust words going forward. We have other robot characters we're fixing to introduce as well. You can ALL be sure we'll be creating names from scratch this time around! : )

Can someone chime in about 'Fair Use'? It's an educational children's project! Thanks Everyone!
 
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