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bikernoj

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? CO

I'll try to be brief, but this gets very complicated. It's a long one no matter how I slice it though. My elderly mother had been in an assisted living community for years, and aside from getting out to shop could take care of herself with few issues.

On July 11, 2010, my mother went to the hospital complaining of weakness. She was 75 at the time with Parkinson's disease, so her ability to move varies from day to day. In nearly all other aspects she is physically and mentally fit.

Her hospital stay lasted about 3 days. Tests did not show anything wrong, and the hospital decided to send her to short term rehabilitative care for physical therapy; 2-3 weeks tops.

Now for the complicated part. While at the hospital, she was catheterized. Within a day of arriving at Rehab Facility #1, she had called me saying that they were "chaining her down to the bed and torturing her", and that I had to come get her right away. Very unlike my mother!

Two days later, I received a call from Facility #2 asking me to come fill out intake documents - I had no idea she was even being transferred. They told me that my mother was ranting and violent, and they did not feel she was capable of understanding what was going on. So I came in and signed the admissions papers for her, wondering what the hell was going on.

Shortly afterward, I was called by Facility #2 and they told me that my mother was trying to hit people, so they gave her "something to calm her down." I was not told what it was, but I felt that mom could probably use a good night's sleep. Her recent behavior was completely foreign to me, like she was off on another planet!

Over the next couple weeks, mother would call me at random times with wild stories that did not make any sense at all. Hallucinations, paranoia, slurred speech, inability to move, dry mouth, muscle pain, and her Parkinson's tremors were out of control. I finally asked a nurse to tell me all the medications they were giving mom, and the answer I got was, "Well, you know, just the usual ones."

When I pressed, the nurse listed all of them in rapid succession by name. I then asked her to list them one by one and tell me what they are for, and after hesitating she did so. There were two Parkinson's meds (Requip, Sinemet) and three for hypertension (the ones I knew about). Also added were an OTC laxative, a heartburn medicine, a multivitamin, Vicodin(!), and one called Seroquel.

"What is Seroquel?" I wondered, so I did some research. It is an antipsychotic drug made by AstraZeneca meant to treat dementia in adults, but IS NOT recommended to treat elderly patients as there are too many harmful side effects, including death. It has known contraindications with Parkinson's meds, effectively neutralizing them. It is a central nervous system depressant, and can amplify the effects of other CNSDs such as hypertension meds and Vicodin.

In essence, if you could choose a patient that should NEVER receive Seroquel for any reason, it would be my mother; and this was the medicine they used to "calm her down." A layman can figure this out in 10 minutes with Google; I expect a PhD to know better!

So how did this happen? When my mother came in to Facility #2, she was still agitated and acting inappropriately. Remember the catheter? As it turns out (which was new to me at the time), when elderly people get urinary tract infections (UTIs), it often makes them bat-$#!t crazy. So when a catheterized patient comes in acting nutty with no history of dementia, nearly every nurse, doctor, director, intern, and even janitor I spoke with knew that the first thing to do is test for UTIs. Instead, the first step the doctor decided on was to administer Seroquel to my mother, making her barely able to move and think. The second thing he did was to give her "cognitive tests" while on Seroquel and suffering from the UTI. He then used the test results to "self-justify" continuing Seroquel. Only AFTER all of this did they check for a UTI (and found it, of course) and gave her antibiotics. When I questioned the doctor, he told me he was "not interested in my opinion." The people at Facility #2 stated that Seroquel use in elderly patients is "standard practice." When I presented evidence that it should not be given to my mother and asked why they chose to ignore all the warnings from NIH, the FDA, and AstraZeneca, I was told that "everybody does it." Many heated arguments ensued.

Over the next few months, my mother went in and out of lucidity, could not complete physical therapy, and went in and out of the hospital with other complications. I fought tooth & nail to have the Seroquel permanently discontinued, but each time she went to the hospital or another Facility they put her right back on it based on the first doctor's "diagnosis" of dementia!

By September 2010, my mother was transferred to Facility #4, which is a secured facility specializing in dementia and Alzheimer's patients. Mom could barely move, could not sit up, transfer, go to the bathroom, or eat without constant assistance. This once proud, self-sufficient, mentally capable woman had been reduced to nearly an empty shell, and said over and over that she wished she could just die. We were told that due to my mother's condition that she would not improve, and we should prepare to live with her like that for the rest of her life.

I know my mother, and I know she's not demented. I believe that she had been inappropriately given a medicine that started a chain reaction of botched healthcare, and that the end result of the first doctor's decision to ignore the multiple, documented warnings and push Seroquel was mom's near comatose nightmare of existence behind four locked doors in a dementia asylum.

A month before, I had contacted a lawyer to draft permanent POA and Living Will documents, but it kept being delayed due to mom's multiple trips. On Sept 21, 2010 I was officially granted durable medical and financial POA for my mother. Within the next two weeks, we arranged for her to be moved to Facility #5, which is her current place of residence. Unfortunately, it is private pay only and costs quite a lot per month, but their level of care is far superior to the previous Kaiser facilities.

In a short time, following my directions as POA, we had readjusted mom's medications and allowed her to "get back to normal." She can sit up, transfer back & forth from the bed to her wheelchair, and can even walk across the room by herself. Her mental ability has returned, with a few "holes" in her memory from the previous months. Essentially, by simply doing what I asked from the very beginning, my mother has improved dramatically and is about 90% of where she was prior to July 2010. At least that's the good news!

She doesn't have much memory of what had happened, so to her it's as if she went to the hospital in July, had months of nightmares, and woke up in her current place. When we describe what happened, she gets very angry and wants her life back. She was never told about the Seroquel and not given an opportunity to refuse it.

Further research has shown that inappropriate Seroquel (quetiapine) use on elderly patients is a common complaint, and that AstraZeneca has already settled multiple lawsuits related to it; there are even rumors of "kickbacks" from A-Z for prescribing it. There was no medical reason to give Seroquel to my mother, and I believe that many facilities like to use it because it makes "difficult" patients easy to deal with. This is a blatant violation of 42 CFR § 483.13: “(a) Restraints. The resident has the right to be free from any physical or chemical restraints imposed for purposes of discipline or convenience, and not required to treat the resident’s medical symptoms.”

I have been stretched very thin with all the additional drama that has ensued, and I am low on energy at this point. But I feel that the doctor who "shoehorned" my mother into an incorrect dementia diagnosis should be held responsible for what he caused! :mad: Does my family have a leg to stand on in regards to the inappropriate use of Seroquel, or can physicians hide behind their ability to prescribe anything off-label and the general acceptance of ignoring all Seroquel warnings? If it was the doctor who chose to give the Seroquel despite the warnings (i.e. we did not know or approve of this), is he liable for what the drug causes? :confused:

Sorry this is so long, but it really is the shortened version of the last 9 months. I know the statute of limitations is 1 year, so I need some advice on how to proceed.

ThanksWhat is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
 


ecmst12

Senior Member
I don't see that she has suffered any permanent damages due to the seroquel; so the rest is irrelevent. If your mother was combative, a drug to calm her down was appropriate. A doctor may in fact know better than a layman with access to google.
 
Are you the resident's personal representative? The use of both physical and chemical restraints are typically governed by very strict guidelines. States that I have practiced in are considered restraint free states which means there should be discussions with PR, other measures less restrictive measures should be exhausted, and there may also be certain documentation requirements. PR should be able to access and review chart with 24 hours if resident is still alive. Consider contacting a local Ombudsman to investigate.

You may have your attorney or Ombudsman look into issues of off-label use and FDA approved usage for Seroquel. Combativeness is extremely common in both demented patients and patients experiencing UTIs can act out in bizarre manners pre sepsis stage. Ask Ombudsman to look at vitals and records prior to diagnosis of UTI and check markers such as creatinine, albumin, and BUN which can reveal dehydration and malnutrition accompanying an undiagnosed UTI. Temp., resp rate and pulse can also indicate presence if infection or sepsis.

The Ombudsman can review the MDLs, incident reports and risk assessments as well as any prior interventions that were implemented prior to the use of a chemical restraint. Ombudsman telephone numbers should be included in the admission paperwork of which the personal representative should have a copy.
 

commentator

Senior Member
The situation you describe, the UTI resulting in confusion and dementia type behavior in elderly people is extremely common. So is dementia and combativeness in elderly people for other reasons. So don't assume that it would've been the only reasonable thing for them to do to test for UTI immediately. They may have assumed that instead of a UTI, she had dementia and I bet her behavior warranted something to calm her, regardless. And it is quite common, from what I've seen, to give Seroquel to elderly patients.

Frankly, I'm amazed that they even told you anything about it since it sounds as if you did not have medical POA at the beginning of this situation.

It sounds like your mother got through this, I don't see what, other than "mental anguish" you might sue someone for, as there was no misdiagnosis that I can see here. It also sounds as though you are not accepting that in her physical condition, with what all she has wrong with her, your mother may not at some point here close at hand be exhibiting a little disorientation and dementia. Of course, it's very smart when this flares up to check for a UTI, but even so, it does happen to elderly people, and not just after they've been given a tranquilizing medication.
 
I don't see that she has suffered any permanent damages due to the seroquel; so the rest is irrelevent. If your mother was combative, a drug to calm her down was appropriate. A doctor may in fact know better than a layman with access to google.
Not sure I understand. Would you not agree that a deprivation of one's right to be free from use of inappropriate physical or chemical restraints is actually a big deal. I have no opinion whatsoever as to whether that occurred here as one could not make that determination without a review of the records I discussed.

Not sure where the just saying no damages has led to a canned response. Many times there are damages in med mal cases, but the damages are not sufficient to warrant pursuing the case.

Would you not agree, however, that a broken hip in a Tennessee nursing home may not be permanent and still be compensable. This may be true even if the hip heals completely and the person returns to prior functioning limits.
 
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Frankly, I'm amazed that they even told you anything about it since it sounds as if you did not have medical POA at the beginning of this situation.
What about if she is the PR. Do you disagree that nursing home not only should tell, but must tell the resident's personal representative of all significant changes in the resident's condition. If resident falls, NH must notify doctor and family PR immediately. If resident has a fever, nursing home notify PR and doctor. Restraint, well that one may be at top of the list. Resident has right to refuse physical and chemical restraints. If resident becomes despondent or has a change in mental status, notify PR and physician. Significant condition is actually very broadly defined and very encompassing. Nursing homes generally have PR sign POA at time of admission partly due to enforcement of arbitration provisions and for financial matters. Lack of a POA may not negate duty to inform PR. These are basic and fundamental rights under Resident's Rights Act.
 

Silverplum

Senior Member
But is COLORADO a no-restraint state? That's where the OP is, and that's where the topic of conversation ought to remain.
 
But is COLORADO a no-restraint state? That's where the OP is, and that's where the topic of conversation ought to remain.
Resident Rights are a federally codified statute. OBRA 1987. We are discussing application of very basic nursing home resident's right. Each PR and resident us given a copy of those rights as part of the admission package. "Restraint free" does not mean no restraints. This just means certain guidelines have to be followed. Bed rails are a form of restraint. This is a very complex subject and a very serious matter. One could write pages on ever nuance of the law and the systematic process of using restraints. As noted before, always call an Ombudsman and they can investigate these matters. They can just walk in and review whatever documents that want to review. They are usually very competent and fair. They are actually patient advocates for nursing home residents.
 
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Silverplum

Senior Member
Resident Rights are a federally codified statute. OBRA 1987. We are discussing application of very basic nursing home resident's right. Each PR and resident us given a copy of those rights as part of the admission package.
Yes, indeed.

But I still haven't found whether or not CO is one of the "no-restraint" states.
 
Would you not agree, however, that a broken hip in a Tennessee nursing home may not be permanent and still be compensable. This may be true even if the hip heals completely and the person returns to prior functioning limits.
Did I really miss the part where OP's mother broke her hip in a Tennessee nursing home?:confused:
 
Yes, indeed.

But I still haven't found whether or not CO is one of the "no-restraint" states.
Read NHRA which OBRA 1987 said applies to federally funded nursing homes. The residents bill of rights codified in the NHRA and made applicable to all nursing home receiving Medicare or Medicaid and etc. Clearly delineates that residents have a right to be free from restraints. Again mo restraints or free from restraints do nit mean that restraints can never be used. The policy is simply provide a goal so to speak to have a restraint free facility and protect residents. Too easy to sedate a resident and make care easier. Restraints are lap buddies, bed rails, wheel chair belts, drugs, fall alarms, and mote conventional restraints.

The difficulty is balancing the resident's need for protection. If a resident constant gets up and falls, a physician may start out with ordering an alarm, then a lap buddy, a belt and then drugs or actually restraining to bed. The resident and family may have a right to refuse. If the resident then falls and breaks a hip, it is documented that a meeting was held with the family and the family refused recommendations of restraints and fall precaution measures were recommended or employed.

Unfortunately, the salient message us getting list in the minutia.

The original poster should contact an Ombudsman who can review the MDLs, risk assessments, interdisciplinary reports (not what they sound), ADLs and physician orders to get an idea if what occurred and why it occurred.

The MARs will show amount of medication and times administered. Whether day time use occurred and us considered off label maybe a prudent question to ask.
 
There may be several specialists providing services and most of them only focus on their issue ... a GP should be a single point of contact for the patient.

Is this the case? You should be able to find out every Doctor who prescribed each drug. If you think a drug is bad, talk to the doctor -- be firm with the doctor & ask questions based on your knowledge of the drug & ask if he has anything to add to your knowledge.

If you have power of attny you should be able to order the Dr. to discontinue a medication. If he resists, ask for a group assessment with all the Dr. & GP. They should honor such a request. Then they can all hear their own opinions and come up with a treatment plan. Most doctors are not evil but specialists tend to worry more about their specialty area with the patient than the overall health of the patient.
 
Did I really miss the part where OP's mother broke her hip in a Tennessee nursing home?:confused:
No, not at all. Just diplomatically addressing somthing that may or may nit be correct.

This hypothetical merely exemplifies that perhaps a "permanent" injury is not necessarily mandated to have a claim for a compensable injury. There may be a bit of mixing apples and oranges here. For instance, some no fault systems for motor vehicle accidents do require a permanent injury. Florida's no fault system for MVAs does require an opinion of a doctor or chiro to opine that the victim sustained an injury that is permanent in nature. Permanent injury under the no fault system can be diagnosed if symptoms persist for about 6 months after the accident.

The issue regarding med mal may be a bit different. The issue with med mal is that if the person is not dead or does not huge damages, the claims will likely not be pursued as the costs to work up the case could easily exceed the potential value of the case. Nursing home cases are a completely different animal. Verdicts such as Rankin Mississippi for 7.8 million for a single stage III decubitus ulcer that was resolved by the same facility. Verdicts in nursing home case are more about neglect than actual damages or pecuniary value.
 
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ecmst12

Senior Member
Florida has nothing to do with this post EITHER! Stop bringing up irrelevent states.

If the damages are not sufficient to make pursuing a claim viable, that is as good to the claimant as not having a claim at all.
 

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