• FreeAdvice has a new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, effective May 25, 2018.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our Terms of Service and use of cookies.

Getting charged with possesion

Accident - Bankruptcy - Criminal Law / DUI - Business - Consumer - Employment - Family - Immigration - Real Estate - Tax - Traffic - Wills   Please click a topic or scroll down for more.

Status
Not open for further replies.

cyjeff

Senior Member
you are truly a condescending as.s. I looked up the Miranda rule and read some information about it, that said if you feel you are not free to leave then you are in custody and if they have evidence against you and are interrogating you without having read the rights then they violated the rule but i guess i was wrong. By the way i will be paying for my own attorney, i have a job, the car we were in was registered to me i bought it, and i have to pay for my own college. I wasn't trying to prescribe my own medication just from what i had read i believed i was correct but i wasn't 100% sure thats why i came on this website i'm already guilty and i know even if i brought up that my miranda rights were violated and i was correct they would just dismiss what i had said prior to being read them and it wouldn't matter. I was just trying to make sure to fullest amount that you understood what happened. and good luck i doubt i have terrible luck i smoke weed once in the last 3 months and i get caught just because i was driving a quarter of a mile back to my house but that's how the law works. and no, i don't know if i'll be tried as an adult, hopefully i wont be
Jackass... you were in custody because you reeked of weed.

If you know the answers, you don't need us.

If you don't think that ingesting drugs doesn't equate to self prescribing medication, you really have no idea what you are doing.

You will lose your license. Bye bye.

You will lose your case.

You don't know Jack Dammit about Miranda or you wouldn't have asked the same stupid question over and over.

Yeah, the cop asked you a question. He is allowed to ask "where did you get the pot I found you with"... further, you can't bitch and moan about being arrested for your buddy's pot while simultaneously bitching and moan about being questioned over whose pot it was.

I was hoping you were high. I thought no one could be that stupid.

Lesson learned.
 


cyjeff

Senior Member
One more point... you do realize that most college loans require that you not have a drug related felony, right?

That is what makes the actual charge so important.

You know so much... but can't read the citation in your own hand.
 
Oh my dear "Sparky", how you sound like my teenage son who tried similar antics during his own time of pants-soiling. No matter how you ask or try to rationalize this to yourself, you're in trouble, cyJeff gave you the facts :) **************
 

nightpanther13

Junior Member
Is that how you talk to your mother? Your grandmother? Grow up, little boy. Your tantrum doesn't impress anyone.
no its not how i talk to my mother or my grandmother but guess what no one on this site is either of them. I'm not trying to impress anyone if anything it seems the other way around you people come and sit on this website and answer everyone's questions in condescending ways, so you can feel like your smarter then all those stupid stoner criminals. none of you are on here to help anyone your only on here so you can be belittling and be the smart tuff guy on the internet since you can't do it in real life.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
no its not how i talk to my mother or my grandmother but guess what no one on this site is either of them. I'm not trying to impress anyone if anything it seems the other way around you people come and sit on this website and answer everyone's questions in condescending ways, so you can feel like your smarter then all those stupid stoner criminals. none of you are on here to help anyone your only on here so you can be belittling and be the smart tuff guy on the internet since you can't do it in real life.
If you're so proud of yourself, go have your Mom read your thread. I posted a decent description of Miranda for you. Did you even read it?
 

nightpanther13

Junior Member
If you're so proud of yourself, go have your Mom read your thread. I posted a decent description of Miranda for you. Did you even read it?
i'm not proud of anything i got arrested, yes i read it and it helped me understand but probably because i was there i still felt that i was being interrogated and i didn't feel i could leave, so therefore i thought my rights were violated.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Fair enough. Now apologize to the people who you were asking to help you on their own time, for free. Because you acted like a dick. Maybe you'll get more help if you do.
 

nightpanther13

Junior Member
Fair enough. Now apologize to the people who you were asking to help you on their own time, for free. Because you acted like a dick. Maybe you'll get more help if you do.
i'll apologize too you and the other members that commented but if you look at cyjeffs statements from the beginning "are you high now" hes a condescending a.s.shole i got arrested last night and i was hoping to come on this website to get some honest help and was hoping people on this website would understand where i was coming but that didn't work out to well.
 

justalayman

Senior Member
i'm not proud of anything i got arrested, yes i read it and it helped me understand but probably because i was there i still felt that i was being interrogated and i didn't feel i could leave, so therefore i thought my rights were violated.

even if they were, there is nothing to help you. read this: Police Questioning: When Miranda Warnings Are Required - Free Legal Information - Nolo

It give a very good explanation of when, why and what difference it makes concerning being informed of your miranda rights.

and trying to claim the pot wasn't in the car? Not going to fly. You even told the cop there "might" be some under your friends seat and lo and behold, they find some that your friend drug out of the car and attempted to conceal. You think a court will believe you just happened to pull over exactly where somebody else dropped a bag of pot?

so, to the specific questions:

1. did the officer violate my Miranda rights by asking me those questions after he had found evidence against me and i felt i wasn't free to leave therefore i was being held in custody
irrelevant

2. if he did violate my Miranda rights can anything i said before i was read my rights be used against me
depends but in the overall picture, irrelevant

3. if my friend owns up and says the marijuana was his will i still be charged for possession
that's up to the DA. You can be charged with constructive possession simply by it being in your car.


4. also if the marijuana wasn't found in my vehicle and i claim i didnt know it was there could this get me out of being charged with possession.
see above

5. what are the consequences for a juvenile in utah being charged with possession
.You will be sentenced to live with members of the LDS church for 3 years or until you go insane, whichever comes first.
 

nightpanther13

Junior Member
even if they were, there is nothing to help you. read this: Police Questioning: When Miranda Warnings Are Required - Free Legal Information - Nolo

It give a very good explanation of when, why and what difference it makes concerning being informed of your miranda rights.

and trying to claim the pot wasn't in the car? Not going to fly. You even told the cop there "might" be some under your friends seat and lo and behold, they find some that your friend drug out of the car and attempted to conceal. You think a court will believe you just happened to pull over exactly where somebody else dropped a bag of pot?

so, to the specific questions:

irrelevant

depends but in the overall picture, irrelevant

that's up to the DA. You can be charged with constructive possession simply by it being in your car.


see above

.You will be sentenced to live with members of the LDS church for 3 years or until you go insane, whichever comes first.
thanks i understand everything more clearly and sorry if i came off as a dick on my first post about the pot being out of the car that was a dumb question. And too late i've been living with members of the lds church for 17 years
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
I'm 17 year old in utah and i believe i'm being charged with possession.
Don't you have a citation or some paperwork that indicates the code section or law you are accused of violating?

ok so i was with a friend and we went to a road to smoke marijuana after smoking the marijuana i was speeding down the road and got pulled over.
Okay, so, you were speeding and got stopped ... that equates to a legitimate detention.

Then, the officer approaches and smells the distinct, pungent aroma of marijuana wafting from your person. That gives rise to articulable probable cause for a search and further detention to investigate for both possession and for DUI (drugs).

i made up a lie and they didn't believe me
I'm shocked. :eek: <sarcastic>

i said we were smoking marijuana but after saying that i asked if i had to have my Miranda rights read to me and if what i said could be used against me because my rights weren't read to me.
The officer should have told you that you were not under arrest so Miranda did not yet apply, and, yes, your statements can and will be used against you.

I would likely have told you at that point that you did not have to talk with me if you did not want to. But, that's me.

While in the car a cop told me i was being arrested for possession and DUI for driving while under the influence he then asked me whos weed it was and i told him it was my friends not mine but my friend told him the same thing.
And since you told the officer exactly where it had been, that shows you were aware of it and, arguably, exercised some dominion and control over the contraband. That gives rise to probable cause to believe you are in possession of a controlled substance.

1. did the officer violate my Miranda rights by asking me those questions after he had found evidence against me and i felt i wasn't free to leave therefore i was being held in custody
Probably not. Miranda generally only applies when you are BOTH in custody (with force equivalent to a custodial arrest) and, being interrogated. You did not appear to be in custody, ergo Miranda should no apply.

2. if he did violate my Miranda rights can anything i said before i was read my rights be used against me
IF for some reason a court rules that some part of your admission was a violation of Miranda (and I do not see it) then some part might be inadmissible, but the only part that I see MIGHT be applicable would be any statements made after the marijuana was discovered, not before. So, when you expressed knowledge of the marijuana and its location, that would likely be good under any interpretation.

3. if my friend owns up and says the marijuana was his will i still be charged for possession
You could be, yes.

Possession is about dominion and control, not ownership. You admitted to knowing it was there, admitted to being out there smoking it, and you wreaked. That's pretty solid for a possession case.

4. also if the marijuana wasn't found in my vehicle and i claim i didnt know it was there could this get me out of being charged with possession.
Ah, so, you mysteriously wreaked of marijuana, you lied when you said there was marijuana in the car and that you had smoked it, and there just happened to suddenly appear marijuana in the snow outside the car ... okay, give that one a whirl.

5. what are the consequences for a juvenile in utah being charged with possession.
You can ask your attorney.

I suspect that probation, fines and drug treatment are in your future. I am not sure if Utah also will suspend your license, but that could be a possibility as well.
 

nightpanther13

Junior Member
also i have another question if i plan on getting another a job to pay for fees and what not in the time between now and my court date hearing am i required to check the box for if you have a criminal record
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
also i have another question if i plan on getting another a job to pay for fees and what not in the time between now and my court date hearing am i required to check the box for if you have a criminal record
If the question concerns CONVICTIONS and you have not yet been convicted of anything, then I suppose the answer would be, "No."
 

cyjeff

Senior Member
even if they were, there is nothing to help you. read this: Police Questioning: When Miranda Warnings Are Required - Free Legal Information - Nolo

It give a very good explanation of when, why and what difference it makes concerning being informed of your miranda rights.

and trying to claim the pot wasn't in the car? Not going to fly. You even told the cop there "might" be some under your friends seat and lo and behold, they find some that your friend drug out of the car and attempted to conceal. You think a court will believe you just happened to pull over exactly where somebody else dropped a bag of pot?

so, to the specific questions:

irrelevant

depends but in the overall picture, irrelevant

that's up to the DA. You can be charged with constructive possession simply by it being in your car.


see above

.You will be sentenced to live with members of the LDS church for 3 years or until you go insane, whichever comes first.
Which sounds surprisingly like my answers...

Well, before the third or fourth "but they didn't read me Miranda" question...

That we are still answering....

With the same answers...

Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ.
 

cyjeff

Senior Member
i'll apologize too you and the other members that commented but if you look at cyjeffs statements from the beginning "are you high now" hes a condescending a.s.shole i got arrested last night and i was hoping to come on this website to get some honest help and was hoping people on this website would understand where i was coming but that didn't work out to well.

Poor baby.

Would it help if I set it to music?

Could someone give this kid a hug? Anyone?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Find the Right Lawyer for Your Legal Issue!

Fast, Free, and Confidential
data-ad-format="auto">
Top