A Question About Underage Dating

[cyjeff]

I can see this so-called "legal advice" forum is just a bunch of high-horse jackasses that will use any excuse they can to call me a "kid" or "stupid".

Einstein, you ARE a kid and your actions betray your intelligence.

You are trying to claim a child on the basis of 11 months of dating. Life doesn't work that way.

You old fools need to understand that just because you don't get it doesn't mean I'm wrong for being a kid.

Yeah, yeah. You are the very first kid that fell in love and didn't understand why her parents kept them apart.

Guess you didn't read Romeo and Juliet.

Age IS just a number. I've proven that many times with my family and people I know, telling me what I can and cannot do based on my age and my schooling. I probably make more than half of you do in a month. I'm smarter than you probably think, and you'll call me immature for claiming that. I'm not going to give up, and you can bite me if you think so.

Yeah, yeah. You are so much smarter and mature than the rest of us that you have to date children to feel better about yourself.

Just because your new job allows you to make twice as much as minimum wage doesn't mean you are in our income bracket, kid. Further, only an ass equates income to worth. It makes you shallow and pedantic.

Look it up.

Just remember... in jail, having your sexual favors traded for a pudding cup is a really bad day. And it will be EVERY day.

I've beaten people like this before, I will do it again. I know there's a way, because there always has been a way.

Um, no.

There has never been a day since, oh, 1850.

Well, except then, dad would have already filled your ass with rock salt.

Please have a nice, bitter day for your most-likely single, divorced or widowed and bitter selves.

Bye.

Nope, we are with the persons we love.

Sorry... too soon?

 

[cyjeff]

Ah, the sense of knowing everything of age...
Pretty great, isn't it?
Maybe this is why so many marriages don't work out: you're all too numb in the head to get it.

And the cure is to marry children?

 

[ZMedaris]

And, just in case it helps, Oregon.

 

[ZMedaris]

And the cure is to marry children?

Did I ever say I was marrying her?
My my, blind and stupid. Age has taken its toll on you, my friend.

 

[cyjeff]

As for the "17 year old sniffing around my daughter" comments: haha, classic. Even though, if you thought about it, I'd be better suited since I can provide for her, and I've been guiding her when she gets off track about school and doing bad things.

This is classic pedophile lingo, sparky.

Classic.

We have seen your kind many times here. You found a child that thinks you hung the moon. She thinks you are so worldly and wise. She think you are so intelligent and mature.

And you are "molding" her.

She has parents to keep her on track and keep her from doing bad things.

Like hanging out with you.

There is still time to ask your cousin to prom. Better get to it.

Please learn a little more about the way life works for kids these days before you take a judgement, you old fools.

Are you kidding? I have two children. Happy, healthy children that have enough self worth to never fall prey to someone like you.

Someone that wants to teach them and guide them.

Shudder.

Seek help. Really. You need it.

 

[cbg]

I know a heck of a lot more than you do, pal. For one thing, I know what the law allows me to do and not do. I know that you can't always get everything you want. I know that just because you aren't doing anything "wrong" doesn't mean you're guaranteed a win.

Oh, and I'm happily married. So I think I know a bit more about relationships than you do, too.

Now, go sit down and let the grownups talk.

 

[ZMedaris]

Cyjeff, I don't NEED to be in your income bracket, I make more than you ever did at my age, buddy. I can guarantee that.

And my intelligence betrays my age? I'm sure. That's why you're still arguing with my stupid ass, correct?

Practice what you preach, big man.

You're all obviously too leaned in one direction. I'm going to go ask someone that can actually help me like a lawyer that gets asked a question should instead of giving them a smart-ass, biased answer.

And I'm not pedantic, I've been pretty smart about what I learn, and care nothing for minute formalisms. Go somewhere else and cry about what you don't like.

 

[CdwJava]

I can see this so-called "legal advice" forum is just a bunch of high-horse jackasses that will use any excuse they can to call me a "kid" or "stupid".

Most of us have a great deal of experience with teenagers ... we know what they are like, and your sense of self-importance and exaggerated intelligence and wisdom only demonstrates your lack of either ... though I am sure you will never admit that. Maybe one day ...

You old fools need to understand that just because you don't get it doesn't mean I'm wrong for being a kid. Age IS just a number.

And, it is a number that can land you in jail. It is a number that has legal meaning. And until the girl is 18, even if your state allows the two of you to grope blindly in a back seat of a Toyota she is under the control of her parent(s). Period. Even if.

I've proven that many times with my family and people I know, telling me what I can and cannot do based on my age and my schooling. I probably make more than half of you do in a month. I'm smarter than you probably think, and you'll call me immature for claiming that.

Yes, actually ... arrogance is a sign of immaturity.

I've beaten people like this before, I will do it again. I know there's a way, because there always has been a way.

The "way" is if her mom just sits back and lets you have your way with her daughter. If she acts, you could be in big trouble depending on what your role in any future drama might be.

Please have a nice, bitter day for your most-likely single, divorced or widowed and bitter selves.

My day won't be "bitter" though it will be long, and I am not single, never divorced or widowed.

 

[cyjeff]

Did I ever say I was marrying her?
My my, blind and stupid. Age has taken its toll on you, my friend.

You were the one that was pontificating upon the reasons for divorce. Therefore, your current relationship must have provided all the answers.

Let me ask you this...have you ever used the following on her?

Age is just a number.
You are much more mature than girls my age.
In ancient times, we could have already been married.
People that don't understand us have never been in love.

Right out of the pedophile handbook... go seek help.

You see, we get just enough of your kind to identify the signs.... and they are all over you.

A complete disregard of law just to be with the little girl that attracts you.

You need help before you find yourself in prison.

Prisoners really don't like child molesters. They really don't.

 

[ZMedaris]

This is classic pedophile lingo, sparky.

Classic.

We have seen your kind many times here. You found a child that thinks you hung the moon. She thinks you are so worldly and wise. She think you are so intelligent and mature.

And you are "molding" her.

She has parents to keep her on track and keep her from doing bad things.

Like hanging out with you.

There is still time to ask your cousin to prom. Better get to it.



Are you kidding? I have two children. Happy, healthy children that have enough self worth to never fall prey to someone like you.

Someone that wants to teach them and guide them.

Shudder.

Seek help. Really. You need it.

Haha, that's rich. I knew this one was going to happen; I'm a sexual predator, am I? That's why I've never touched her beyond a kiss? That's why I've tried to help her deal with all of her stresses and keep her going through school? I even gave her the idea that she could be an engineer because she likes to make things and make them work. She wanted to actually drop out of her competitive sport to have more time with me, I said NO.

Stop judging when you know nothing of what you speak of. You have NEVER seen my kind of persona before, and that is exactly what you talk the way you do. You're sad, you're narrow-minded, you're probably stuck on one track and doomed to follow it forever, and I can bet you'll lose sight of your kids when they hit a certain age (if they have already, you probably don't know everything about them).

Good luck with that, dearest.

 

[ZMedaris]

You were the one that was pontificating upon the reasons for divorce. Therefore, your current relationship must have provided all the answers.

Let me ask you this...have you ever used the following on her?

Age is just a number.
You are much more mature than girls my age.
In ancient times, we could have already been married.
People that don't understand us have never been in love.

Right out of the pedophile handbook... go seek help.

You see, we get just enough of your kind to identify the signs.... and they are all over you.

A complete disregard of law just to be with the little girl that attracts you.

You need help before you find yourself in prison.

Prisoners really don't like child molesters. They really don't.

FYI, I've never said any of that. Again, please, please, PLEASE learn a bit more about people like me before you run around judging them. You don't know me, you don't know what I want for me and her, you have no idea what my intentions are. If you paid any attention to anything, you would have realized that I try to help her whenever I can, and I only get to see her once a week (if I'm lucky) for two hours out in the open public. It's been that way this WHOLE time.

You're such a fool.

 

[cbg]

Well, of course you make more than anyone here did at your age. That's what inflation does. That's a given. Anyone who knows anything about basic economics knows that. When I was your age minimum wage was less than half of what it is now, and wages were set accordingly. You think that's a surprise to anyone here?

You still aren't getting it. You aren't getting these answers because anyone is biased against you. You are getting them because they are the legal answers.

But do pay a lawyer to tell you the same thing that we are.

 

[cyjeff]

Cyjeff, I don't NEED to be in your income bracket, I make more than you ever did at my age, buddy. I can guarantee that.

No, you can't. Nice try though.

And my intelligence betrays my age? I'm sure. That's why you're still arguing with my stupid ass, correct?

I am trying to get you to seek help.

You're all obviously too leaned in one direction. I'm going to go ask someone that can actually help me like a lawyer that gets asked a question should instead of giving them a smart-ass, biased answer.

And I'm not pedantic, I've been pretty smart about what I learn, and care nothing for minute formalisms. Go somewhere else and cry about what you don't like.

Then put your money where your mouth is.

I will bet $5,000 to the winner's favorite charity that you won't find a single reputable legal source that will say you can force mom to let you date their daughter.

Just one that can take you to court and FORCE mom to let you date their daughter. Provide this legal counsel's name and website. Upon your win in court, the check will flow.

Shouldn't be too big a burden for a man of means such as yourself.

You in?

 

[ZMedaris]

I'll agree to that, because I can do it.

Get ready to lose a few grand.

 

[cyjeff]

I'll agree to that, because I can do it.

Get ready to lose a few grand.

Cool.

Come back in one month with the name of your attorney and the name of the judge that ruled in your favor.

And yes, we will check it out.

Now, go stay away from children.