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Ex possibly forged my signature for passport....

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CourtClerk

Senior Member
Both parents don't need to be physically present; one legal parent can be there in person
The minor and both parents (or guardians) must appear in person to submit Form DS-11 at an acceptance facility or a passport agency.
http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/minors/minors_834.html
My sister just went through this last week....

and submit either a consent form from the other parent, or offer proof of why the other parent cannot consent (jail, unfindable, death, living outside of the US).
I'm guessing since the OP is accusing the ex of forging signatures, none of this applies.
 


LizzieB

Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Maine

Hi,

I am highly suspicious that my ex-wife forged my signature to obtain my daughters passport. I have put in a request with the state department to see if my daughter was issued a passport. If she has forged my signature, which legal venue should I go to press charges since forgery is illegal.

Thanks
Do you not want your child to have a passport?

Regardless there are ways around having two parents appear or file the DS 3053 when one parent refuses to sign when an order or judgment mandates that the parties cooperate.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
Minors Under Age 16
My sister just went through this last week....


I'm guessing since the OP is accusing the ex of forging signatures, none of this applies.



Ugh, I know the regulations inside out - c'mon, I'm the Brit immigrant, remember? ;)

But believe it or not, convincing the passport office that you can't obtain the other legal parent's consent is not - as a practical matter - as difficult as it might seem.

Oddly enough I've lately been going through years-old posts and I've noted at least a few other seniors documenting the ease with which this can be accomplished, even post-9/11.

I'm still wondering what OP hopes to accomplish, however....
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
But believe it or not, convincing the passport office that you can't obtain the other legal parent's consent is not - as a practical matter - as difficult as it might seem.
I know... but the OP is claiming that his signature is forged, not that they declared his signature unavailable.
 

LizzieB

Member
Ugh, I know the regulations inside out - c'mon, I'm the Brit immigrant, remember? ;)

But believe it or not, convincing the passport office that you can't obtain the other legal parent's consent is not - as a practical matter - as difficult as it might seem.

Oddly enough I've lately been going through years-old posts and I've noted at least a few other seniors documenting the ease with which this can be accomplished, even post-9/11.

I'm still wondering what OP hopes to accomplish, however....
Agreed! OMG.

Been there... done that within the past month. Ex didn't provide the passport... despite knowledge of our daughter's international travel for over 90 days. After speaking with the Department of State and on their recommendation (off the record) I reported her passport lost, applied, went to passport office... walked out with new passport.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
I know... but the OP is claiming that his signature is forged, not that they declared his signature unavailable.


OP has very kindly not informed us as to whether the passport was even issued..let alone by what means.

Honestly?

I'm thinking "fishing expedition". But you know me. That cynical button. ;)
 

CJane

Senior Member
I know... but the OP is claiming that his signature is forged, not that they declared his signature unavailable.
This is true.

Though I suspect OP is unaware that his signature was not, strictly speaking, necessary.

Also, I've found several areas that seem to indicate that only one parent must appear in person, if they have a signed/notarized statement from the other parent. So I suppose OP's original assertion is still possible, though it certainly raises issues w/the alleged notary as well.

There's a section on the passport application that says "If only one parent appears..."

Also, it matters how old this child is. If over the age of 16, consent of both parents isn't required since they'll be issued an adult passport rather than a child's passport.
 

LizzieB

Member
This is true.

Though I suspect OP is unaware that his signature was not, strictly speaking, necessary.

Also, I've found several areas that seem to indicate that only one parent must appear in person, if they have a signed/notarized statement from the other parent. So I suppose OP's original assertion is still possible, though it certainly raises issues w/the alleged notary as well.

There's a section on the passport application that says "If only one parent appears..."

Also, it matters how old this child is. If over the age of 16, consent of both parents isn't required since they'll be issued an adult passport rather than a child's passport.
From experience, I was able to obtain a "fast track" passport by bringing my daughter and judgment to the passport office and explaining that my ex-wife failed to provide my daughter's passport, blah, blah, blah.

They were more than compassionate and efficient. Thanks to the US DoS.
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
OP has very kindly not informed us as to whether the passport was even issued..let alone by what means.

Honestly?

I'm thinking "fishing expedition". But you know me. That cynical button. ;)
Oh, let it be known that I think you're absolutely right... but I'm juss sayin....

forged is different than lying on the app altogether. Do you hear??? Naw.. you don't.
 

mistoffolees

Senior Member
Agreed! OMG.

Been there... done that within the past month. Ex didn't provide the passport... despite knowledge of our daughter's international travel for over 90 days. After speaking with the Department of State and on their recommendation (off the record) I reported her passport lost, applied, went to passport office... walked out with new passport.
From experience, I was able to obtain a "fast track" passport by bringing my daughter and judgment to the passport office and explaining that my ex-wife failed to provide my daughter's passport, blah, blah, blah.

They were more than compassionate and efficient. Thanks to the US DoS.
That's not the same thing. The passport was already issued and you simply asked for a new copy of it. In OP's case, there is no passport and one parent wanted to get one without the other parent's permission.

Entirely different situation.

Oh, let it be known that I think you're absolutely right... but I'm juss sayin....

forged is different than lying on the app altogether. Do you hear??? Naw.. you don't.
Agreed.

If OP really has evidence that ex forged OP's signature, I'd head down to the police statement and file a report.

OTOH, if it's simply a matter of ex getting a passport for the child, it would be necessary to get more details to know if any wrongdoing occurred. Ex could have gotten the court's permission (although OP should have been notified). Or, as crane points out, if the child was over 16, the other parent's signature isn't required.
 

mistoffolees

Senior Member
Aye, hon. You don't decide to press charges. The agency that issused the passport is the one that will decide that. Still not you.
Not entirely true.

If OP has evidence that ex forged his signature, he could file a complaint with the police. Of course, that doesn't seem to be the case here because there's no evidence of anything.
 

LizzieB

Member
That's not the same thing. The passport was already issued and you simply asked for a new copy of it. In OP's case, there is no passport and one parent wanted to get one without the other parent's permission.

Entirely different situation.
Uh... it is NOT a different situation, duh? It's not a simple re-issuance. It's a new passport application. I guess you've never done this? And if you haven't, you might want to bone up on USDOS requirements or keep your incorrect opinions to yourself.

I could take a copy of her passport in with me- and I carry copies of my and my kids and so's passports with me at all times in my backpack, briefcase and suitcases. A copy gets you nowhere unless you need a re-issuance at a US embassy abroad- then it helps facilitate the re-issuance.
 

R2D2

Junior Member
That's not the same thing. The passport was already issued and you simply asked for a new copy of it. In OP's case, there is no passport and one parent wanted to get one without the other parent's permission.

Entirely different situation.



Agreed.

If OP really has evidence that ex forged OP's signature, I'd head down to the police statement and file a report.

OTOH, if it's simply a matter of ex getting a passport for the child, it would be necessary to get more details to know if any wrongdoing occurred. Ex could have gotten the court's permission (although OP should have been notified). Or, as crane points out, if the child was over 16, the other parent's signature isn't required.
To clarify, I'm in the process of finding out if a passport was issued. My child is only 5 so there is no way she could have signed herself. No court order was brought up for me to sign it. As I stated before, ex was nagging me to sign and has suddenly stopped. My suspicion is that she forged my signature and applied for the passport. I could be wrong but like I said before I'm in the process of finding out. Time will tell.

Thank you, if she did indeed forge it and apply for a passport, I will pursue having her prosecuted.
 

LizzieB

Member
To clarify, I'm in the process of finding out if a passport was issued. My child is only 5 so there is no way she could have signed herself. No court order was brought up for me to sign it. As I stated before, ex was nagging me to sign and has suddenly stopped. My suspicion is that she forged my signature and applied for the passport. I could be wrong but like I said before I'm in the process of finding out. Time will tell.

Thank you, if she did indeed forge it and apply for a passport, I will pursue having her prosecuted.
Ok.. do you not want your child to travel internationally?

Have you made a stink of that with your ex in the past?

What does your judgment/order/decree state with respect to travel?

While USDOS requires that both parents and the child be present for a passport application, there are remedies if one parent can not be present or who refuses to authorize the application.

IMHO, you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Now grow up.
 

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