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bobblehead

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Ohio

Ex husband and I divorced in 2008, I was named residential parent. We have always got along and been supportive of each other. I got remarried, he was supportive. Then, insert the girlfriend. Since she has been here, his whole demeanor changed. Everything is a fight.

My problem is actually with not only the girlfriend, but her daughter also. Her daughter is 15. Our girls are 6 & 7. Youngest has Asperger's. Let me start with the daughter.

In 2009, the daughter spanked the girls. She cussed at them calling them B*tches and C*nts. She told them a bad guy was breaking in to kill them, then made them stay downstairs while she went upstairs. She was baby sitting them, all.the.time.

Lately, she has been calling the youngest names. She has slapped her numerous times. She has made sex jokes to my oldest, who comes home repeating them.

My daughters are both in therapy. My youngest told her therapist about the slapping. She told her the kid baths her, does her homework with her and the names she calls her. She also told the therapist that the girlfriend threw a glass at my ex and she had to protect daddy. The therapist said she HAD to call CPS. Fast Forward 3 weeks, 3 cancelled appointments (by the therapy center). The new therapist (old one quit or got fired) said none of this is enough to call CPS about. She said kids will be kids.

My oldest daughter, I am not sure what all is said. I do know that she told her about Daddys paddle with 6 holes in it. She told her where it is in the house. I know this because this therapist told me after a session. She recommended that *I* call CPS.

Now lets talk about the girlfriend. She has been getting worse and worse the closer the courtdate comes. She has been talking poorly about me (I am a b*tch, she only likes me when I am fair, I am a bad mom, ect). She then, tells my oldest that her Daddy gives all his money to me and that is why he is broke. He pays $175/month/both kids. She gets worse after I speak with the ex about things.

I spoke to him March 4th about the things said in youngest childs therapy. I asked him to make this end. To please tell her she can say whatever she wants about me, to whoever she wants, just not the kids. I pointed out that I have always had his back. I have always covered for him when he was "screwed up" (his words, not mine). I have never once told the kids what he has done in the past. That I have encouraged them to go to his house, time and again, reminding them he loves them.

After this conversation, the kids came back from the visit to tell me that I wasn't the boss, Daddy and Erika didn't have to listen to me and if thats all I had, I was weak. *sigh* Then the oldest said and we arent allowed to tell you about Daddys. I agreed I was not the boss. I also do not ask about the happenings at Daddys. The kids tell what they want, when they want.

Kids start swim lessons. He brings the entourage. They stand at the side of the pool distracting the kids. After swim lessons, I was getting them dried. The girlfriend said oldest needed her hair blown dry. It was barely damp so I said "Her hair is fine." Girlfriend proceeds to take her hand and drag oldest to the bathroom (there was no hair dryer in there...). I let it go. No drama in front of kids... Then comes getting kids in car, girlfriend takes her hips (she a big woman) and pushes me out of the way to buckle youngest in. Again, I let it go.

Kids do a visit with Dad. Swim instructor calls and asks me to keep spectators to a minimum. I agree and inform Dad. Kids come home from a visit, inform me that again, girlfriend is angry. She goes back to things taht have happened on my time and rants and raves (mainly, the kids and I did a weekend (my time) in Tn and she felt I was wrong) she will take kids out of state and not tell me to see how I like it. She also tells kids she and her kid can't be at lessons anymore b/c mommy said no. She tells them they will live with her and SHE will have papers keeping me from them. This is what all I get to hear when I pick them up on Thursday.

Fast forward a week after another swim lesson. Ex and I have another chat. I ask again to not leave kids alone with either girlfriend or her kid. I ask again that she refrain from adult topics and the bashing of me in front of the kids. I also ask that he just keep her away from me and the kids events because of the tension.

Today, I was volunteering at the kids school book fair. Ex knew I was there all week. he brings girlfriend to lunch with the kids. Oldest tells me that when girlfriends around, she is to call HER mom and ignore me.

What do I do? I am about to totally lose it. I am going in circles. Ex is unhelpful, uncooperative to everything. He agrees with me when we talk, he goes home to her and then disregards everything. Kids came home last night saying the kid baby sat them again and called youngest a gay b.

We go to court April 11th. He is going for full custody. I doubt he will get it because his grounds were the "move" from Florida to Ohio (long story can explain it if it is relevant). My lawyer told me not to call CPS as the therapist suggested. I really just need to know how I am suppose to handle this. I have lurked here forever and I have taken advice given to others on how to interact/ co parent ect since we divorced in 08. It isnt helping. I know I cant make him change but there has to be a way to handle it better than I am doing. Even if it is just for my own mental state.

I will take whatever you give me. I just need help.
 


Proserpina

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Ohio


We go to court April 11th. He is going for full custody. I doubt he will get it because his grounds were the "move" from Florida to Ohio (long story can explain it if it is relevant). My lawyer told me not to call CPS as the therapist suggested. I really just need to know how I am suppose to handle this. I have lurked here forever and I have taken advice given to others on how to interact/ co parent ect since we divorced in 08. It isnt helping. I know I cant make him change but there has to be a way to handle it better than I am doing. Even if it is just for my own mental state.

I will take whatever you give me. I just need help.

...and while Blue is doing that...

When did you move? Why? Did Dad consent or did you obtain permission from the court?
 

mistoffolees

Senior Member
...and while Blue is doing that...

When did you move? Why? Did Dad consent or did you obtain permission from the court?
I'm also curious why the lawyer said not to call CPS.



I would suggest that OP drop all the emotional stuff. If GF wants to call you names, it's no big deal. If GF wants to call the kids names, it still no big deal (well, it's a big deal, but you're not going to get anywhere with it legally). If the older child wants to call your kids names, you're not going to get anywhere with it.

Restrict your concerns to actual physical harm. Ordinarily, I would call CPS or the police when my kids were slapped around. If GF started shoving me around, I'd call the police. But your attorney said not to do it, so don't - but please let us know why.

As for the rest of the annoyances, you have to let them go. If the swim place calls you and says you have too many visitors, ask them to take it up with Dad. Tell them that you have no control over him, so if he's causing problems, they should take care of it themselves.

Now, please tell us what the attorney is planning. He may be asking the court for a no-contact order between GF and her older daughter and the kids or he may be simply fighting a custody change. In either event, you really have to trust your attorney. Their advice is going to be far better than what you can get here.
 

MichaCA

Senior Member
I am curious why the second counselor chose not to call CPS. They are mandated reporters. Outside of all the legal stuff I would want to know her answer - since she thought they should be called. Maybe this place is very anti-calling CPS (which is weird IMO).

I would ask my attorney about it and if you are interested in changing the therapist, if he knows some counselors names that have experience with divorce/custody issues with children. They may have one - but the kids need a good therapist for probably the next few years to keep track of whats going on for them.

How is you and dad live in different states but he attends swimming lessons and other things?
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
I am curious why the second counselor chose not to call CPS. They are mandated reporters. Outside of all the legal stuff I would want to know her answer - since she thought they should be called. Maybe this place is very anti-calling CPS (which is weird IMO).

I would ask my attorney about it and if you are interested in changing the therapist, if he knows some counselors names that have experience with divorce/custody issues with children. They may have one - but the kids need a good therapist for probably the next few years to keep track of whats going on for them.

How is you and dad live in different states but he attends swimming lessons and other things?
I live 15 min from a state border. ;)
Perhaps it is the same for the OP ex.
 

bobblehead

Junior Member
...and while Blue is doing that...

When did you move? Why? Did Dad consent or did you obtain permission from the court?
Dad consented to the move to Florida from Ohio in 2008. He agreed as long as he could drop Insurance and I paid transportation both ways, his daycare. At the time he was "screwed up," refusing to take the kids on his visits. I filled out the relocation forms, waited the time and was fine to move since he did not object. Basically, after being seperated for 3 years, he claims the actual divorce broke him.

I am not sure why the therapist won't call. She just told me I should. She is in a different county if that means anything? I do know that GF's daughter goes to the same place for therapy. I don't know if that has something to do with it? Maybe a conflict of interest, if they have the same counsler?

I do understand that I have a lot of emotions in it. I am working on that. I am always cordial to both ex and gf and I try to back him up when it comes to the kids.

As for what the lawyer is planning...It is probably bad that I don't know. She is the take charge, do it, tell me when we meet type. I did just pay $1,000.00 for a court investigator to go to Florida to investigate my household. Perhaps she is counting on that? From my understanding, they will investigate my house (both here and in Florida) , ex's house and speak to all of us (including the kids).

I will say I do trust her. A lot. I guess I am trying to figure out (or just want to be told without paying $225) that I need to just remain calm and cordial.

How we got in this situation of custody instead of just a visitation mod:

Dad and I are currently both in Ohio. We (my current husband and I) came up for a courtdate in Oct. We had an argument. he called my lawyer and said he wasn't coming to the courtdate (3 hours BEFORE), lawyer calls me, I was an emotional basketcase. I understood with our fight he (lawyer) couldnt go into court and pretend everything was ok. I said I would move kids and I back to Ohio. At the time, I dropped the ball. I should have called my husband. Instead, I just gave up. My lawyer called his lawyer. I was ordered to get our things from Florida and new courtdate was scheduled for December 22 while I figured out my marriage. December 14, ex filed for custody. So, we got a new courtdate of April 11.

I take responsibility for all that. We had an argument at the most inopportune time and it was not handled properly. I get WHY I am in this mess. I get I will probably be staying in Ohio. I did what I thought was best at that moment (move the kids here where we have support vs kids and I staying in Fl with no support).
 

mistoffolees

Senior Member
As for what the lawyer is planning...It is probably bad that I don't know. She is the take charge, do it, tell me when we meet type. I did just pay $1,000.00 for a court investigator to go to Florida to investigate my household. Perhaps she is counting on that? From my understanding, they will investigate my house (both here and in Florida) , ex's house and speak to all of us (including the kids).

I will say I do trust her. A lot. I guess I am trying to figure out (or just want to be told without paying $225) that I need to just remain calm and cordial.
The following is pure speculation. I would strongly suggest that the next time you're with your attorney, ask what the game plan is. Even with a 'take charge' attorney, you should be kept informed.

My guess is that attorney thinks you have a very strong case and doesn't want it to appear that you're being vindictive and trying to create endless attacks against Dad. If someone keeps filing complaints against the other parent, it can sometimes be perceived of as negative (even when it shouldn't be). And perhaps your judge is particularly sensitive to it. Perhaps that is what your attorney is trying to avoid.

But, again, that's only speculation. Ask the attorney next time you have him on the phone.
 

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