school is giving condoms to my 11 year olds!!

[ecmst12]

A true addiction is a physical dependence, such as narcotics, where the addict goes through physical withdrawal if they cease. Behavioral/psychological "addictions" are not the same thing at all.

I never said encourage masturbation, only don't associate it with shame, evil, or dirtyness. Acknowledge it as normal, non-pathological behavior at a bare minimum. Which is all sex ed generally does; no one is offering seminars for minors on techniques or toys.

What parents SHOULD encourage their children to do is explore their budding sexuality in a safe environment; teaching them to ignore it or repress it is pointless and stupid; you can't just ignore something as powerful as the human drive to procreate and hope it will go away until YOU think the child is ready for it.

And no, I have never personally known ANYONE who felt negatively impacted by masturbation.

 

[CreativeBlock]

Would you believe me if I told you I have an "aubergine" (purple) leather couch?

Damnit. Where's the "pea green with jealousy" emoticon?!?!

 

[Just Blue]

Would you believe me if I told you I have an "aubergine" (purple) leather couch?

Yes. Yes I would.

 

[CreativeBlock]

A true addiction is a physical dependence, such as narcotics, where the addict goes through physical withdrawal if they cease. Behavioral/psychological "addictions" are not the same thing at all.

True. However, when sexually based, behavioral "addictions" are classified as paraphilias. And the "addiction" to such can be nearly impossible to treat, much less manage.

Paedophilia, sadism, masochism, frotteurism et al, are all such paraphilias. Once the connection between the fixation and the gratification becomes concrete, it's almost impossible to change and becomes hard-wired, if you will.

Compulsive masturbation is a paraphilia-related disorder (EDITED: my apologies, my thoughts wandered). Although, typically, excessive masturbation is a "symptom" of a paraphila.

Just FYI.

 

[Silverplum]

Yes. Yes I would.

True story, I do. Could NOT believe my H didn't wimper or scream bloody murder when I bought it. I think he actually (secretly) likes it.

Damnit. Where's the "pea green with jealousy" emoticon?!?!

Don't be green -- be lavender!

 

[Just Blue]

Although, typically, excessive masturbation is a "symptom" of a paraphila.

Please define CLINICALLY EXCESSIVE.

 

[CreativeBlock]

Please define CLINICALLY EXCESSIVE.

The essence would be where it significantly impacts a patient's life for 6 months or more.

Junior touching his no-no spot every evening for 6 months would likely not be excessive.

Junior touching his no-no spot every evening for 6 months and not eating, bathing, etc, would be considered excessive, since he's forgoing essential needs, ignoring social norms, etc, in order to satisfy his urges.

If Junior is touching his winkie every evening for 6 months and indulging in another paraphilia, the secondary paraphilia becomes the "true" disorder and the "compulsive" masturbation would become a symptom of such.

However, bear in mind that CLINICALLY, paedophilia doesn't fall under disorder/paraphilia unless it, too, has been going on for 6 months (among other variables).

I didn't write the DSM.

 

[tranquility]

Please define CLINICALLY EXCESSIVE.

Clinically excessive might be if it:

inhibits sexual activity with a partner, is done in public, or causes significant distress to the person. It may cause distress if it is done compulsively and/or interferes with daily life and activities.

for six months or more.

 

[CreativeBlock]

However, bear in mind that CLINICALLY, paedophilia doesn't fall under disorder/paraphilia unless it, too, has been going on for 6 months (among other variables).

Just because I thought I might encounter some reticence in believing the above, I am quoting here the newest incarnation of the DSM (5th edition), to be implemented in 2013. While the below (and subsequently my post concerning paedophilia) is not the final draft, it most likely will be. And at the very least, displays where the best and brightest will be herding psychology in the future.

Pedohebephilic Disorder

The work group is recommending this disorder be renamed from Pedophilia to Pedohebephilic Disorder.

A. Over a period of at least six months, one or both of the following, as manifested by fantasies, urges, or behaviors:

(1) recurrent and intense sexual arousal from prepubescent or pubescent children [5]

(2) equal or greater arousal from such children than from physically mature individuals [6]
B. One or more of the following signs or symptoms:

(1) the person has clinically significant distress or impairment in important areas of functioning from sexual attraction to children

(2) the person has sought sexual stimulation, on separate occasions, from either of the following:

(a) two or more different children, if both are prepubescent

(b) three or more different children, if one or more are pubescent [7]

(3) repeated use of , and greater arousal from, pornography depicting prepubescent or pubescent children than from pornography depicting physically mature persons, for a period of six months or longer [8]
C. The person is at least age 18 years and at least five years older than the children in Criterion A or Criterion B.

If anyone would like to read it themselves: Proposed Revision | APA DSM-5

 

[Ohiogal]

Fur! Fur goes with lavender.

I, too, long to discuss interior painting.

What or whose interior are you painting? Because we could definitely relate it to the masturbation angle if you want to be a bit perverse. Especially when you mention fur.

 

[CreativeBlock]

What or whose interior are you painting? Because we could definitely relate it to the masturbation angle if you want to be a bit perverse. Especially when you mention fur.

*groan!*

Please don't get me started. I once eval'd an offender who, as a hobby, used to "squirt" paint out of an orifice that should remain nameless (the offense he was imprisoned for was ... um ... enticing those younger than he to assist him). He got the idea from another artist.

 

[Ohiogal]

Just because I thought I might encounter some reticence in believing the above, I am quoting here the newest incarnation of the DSM (5th edition), to be implemented in 2013. While the below (and subsequently my post concerning paedophilia) is not the final draft, it most likely will be. And at the very least, displays where the best and brightest will be herding psychology in the future.



If anyone would like to read it themselves: Proposed Revision | APA DSM-5

HOW did this move from clinically excessive masturbation to pedophilia?

 

[CreativeBlock]

HOW did this move from clinically excessive masturbation to pedophilia?

From a personal standpoint, I mentioned it because I find it reprehensible. But also because of the criteria's similarity in determining the eligibility of any paraphilia/disorder.

Sort of as an FYI. That I'm sure many people didn't want to know, but likely should.

 

[tranquility]

HOW did this move from clinically excessive masturbation to pedophilia?

As described in CreativeBlock earlier post "clinically excessive masturbation" would be a Paraphilia Not Otherwise Specified. However that category does not describe things in detail and so she used a different paraphila description as an example. I don't believe it was meant to say that those who want to teach kids to masturbate are pedophiles.

As to the paint, I recommend enamel.

 

[Proserpina]

Only at FA could you find a thread addressing condoms, masturbation, giraffe penii, lavender, fur, couches and interior design.

I don't know whether I'm in awe or really weirded out.