Ethnic group asked to move seat location during exam

[Ozark_Sophist]

You could get thicker skin

WHAT? Why not just call him "BOY."

 

[Zigner]

WHAT? Why not just call him "BOY."

Are you suggesting that our OP was discriminated against because s/he was black?

 

[Silverplum]

WHAT? Why not just call him "BOY."

I think you're overreacting.

 

[Zigner]

READ the FIRST post.

I'm seeing a person who was caught up with a group of buddies that may (or may not) have had accusations of "suspicious stuff" occurring when they sit in a group...so the group was broken up and everybody was allowed to take their test normally. What are YOU seeing?

 

[justalayman]

Then she states out loud verbatim in front of the entire class, "all of you have been suspected of suspicious activity in the past"

if this is the basis for concern or a possible action, OP needs to give it up now. Even if this specific prof was the only person to ever suspect members of the group of suspicious activity and had never verbalized it to another person, it is still a true statement.

I have never sat next to either of the people around my for any previous exam,

I don't see why that is relevant

, nor has any individual ever been accused or confronted of cheating or anything of the sort in the past.

So? nor were they accused of such this time either but beyond that, unless the OP is all knowing, OP and associates could have been accused of cheating or anything else and never be aware of the conversation where it was addressed.

. I sat alongside my friend whom is the same ethnicity as me. In my particular row, a group up us of ethnic background were sitting together (about 10-12 of mixed ethnic races), the majority being my ethnicity.

would that not shoot down the claim of discrimination based on race? If there was 10-12 people of mixed ethnic background, what race was being discriminated against? How would you know?

but then you have this:

Amongst this group, 2 or 3 were of a different ethnicity and asked to move because they were seated amongst my row of 10-12 students who was told to get up.

(same row but yet now, instead of "mixed ethnic races", suddenly we have 7-10 of the same race and 2-3 of a different race but beyond that, if is was racially motivated, why were the 2-3 students of a race other than the OP also required to move? That would dilute the claim of racial discrimination.

She was also quoted as saying, "time to break up the pods" during her course of action

while OP seems to be offended, I can see nothing offensive about the statement.


One thing the OP has not stated is; were the groups that were required to move all in the profs class? Were there other large groups consisting of members of this profs class of other races that were not required to relocate?

While the OP paints this as discriminatory, it could be as simple as the students sat in groups where there were many from this profs class setting together and apparently at least some of them have displayed some sort of suspicious activity so the prof felt the need to separate the "pods" to prevent any possibility of cheating.

by chance, is there a higher percentage of "us" in the profs class than "them"? Is there a higher percentage of "us" in the profs class than in the other classes that were also using this same room for test purposes? If either of those are true, it is likely that you would have a "pod" of "us" that just happened to be from the same class setting together. As such, it would have been completely appropriate for the prof to break up the groups.

It's amazing how selective reporting of facts can alter the perception of those reading the story. Not saying there wasn't some inappropriate actions but a review of the full set of facts could show a very different situation.

 

[swalsh411]

READ the FIRST post.

Since when is "suspected cheaters" a protected class?

 

[Invictus31]

Then she states out loud verbatim in front of the entire class, "all of you have been suspected of suspicious activity in the past"

if this is the basis for concern or a possible action, OP needs to give it up now. Even if this specific prof was the only person to ever suspect members of the group of suspicious activity and had never verbalized it to another person, it is still a true statement.

It isn't a true statement. After the exam, we met outside the hall and non of us have ever been suspected of suspicious activity by administration. Just because she said it, does'nt mean it was true and that's where an issue is. It was a false allegation to make up a reason to move us.

I have never sat next to either of the people around my for any previous exam,

I don't see why that is relevant

Later in you reply you mentioned that it could have been that the students have sat next to each other in the past and brought up suspicion. So I'm stating that we have never in the past sat next to each other to give any reason of suspicion.

, nor has any individual ever been accused or confronted of cheating or anything of the sort in the past.

So? nor were they accused of such this time either but beyond that, unless the OP is all knowing, OP and associates could have been accused of cheating or anything else and never be aware of the conversation where it was addressed.

None of the members moved have ever been talked to about any accusations of cheating against them. There is no record of them having been involved in any such activity in the past. The prof selected an entire demographic and just relocated them throughout the rooms with no reason.

. I sat alongside my friend whom is the same ethnicity as me. In my particular row, a group up us of ethnic background were sitting together (about 10-12 of mixed ethnic races), the majority being my ethnicity.

would that not shoot down the claim of discrimination based on race? If there was 10-12 people of mixed ethnic background, what race was being discriminated against? How would you know?

but then you have this:

Amongst this group, 2 or 3 were of a different ethnicity and asked to move because they were seated amongst my row of 10-12 students who was told to get up.

(same row but yet now, instead of "mixed ethnic races", suddenly we have 7-10 of the same race and 2-3 of a different race but beyond that, if is was racially motivated, why were the 2-3 students of a race other than the OP also required to move? That would dilute the claim of racial discrimination.

It's not suddenly...that was the same information as originally stated. They were moved only because they we amongst the larger group of us. They were also ethnic. It is evident a specific race was targeted because the prof then proceeded to move other members of ONLY that particular ethnicity and none others.

She was also quoted as saying, "time to break up the pods" during her course of action

while OP seems to be offended, I can see nothing offensive about the statement.

If a group of 2 or 3 of my race is sitting together she claims it to be a "pod". So why is a group of 5-10 of another race sitting together not considered to be a pod? Obviously we are a minority against that group but that doesn't give the prof the right to label us.

The groups moved were all in the prof class, she has no authority to relocate students of the other classes.
Yes, there were large groups of other races sitting together who were not asked to relocate.
There is not a higher percentage of "us" in the class. We are a minority and almost ALL of us were moved without reason.
There were groups of races from the same class sitting 20 of the same race in a row all over the hall and not asked to move.

If the above weren't the case then I would not have even thought of this as an issue at all.

 

[Zigner]

Then she states out loud verbatim in front of the entire class, "all of you have been suspected of suspicious activity in the past"



It isn't a true statement. After the exam, we met outside the hall and non of us have ever been suspected of suspicious activity by administration. Just because she said it, does'nt mean it was true and that's where an issue is. It was a false allegation to make up a reason to move us.

Ahhh, I see. You've perfected the art of mind-reading...

 

[Silverplum]

Ahhh, I see. You've perfected the art of mind-reading...

I have, also.

For instance, I know you are thinking of chili cheese dogs right now.

 

[Zigner]

I have, also.

For instance, I know you are thinking of chili cheese dogs right now.

Incredible!