Taking Pets Away from Abusive Kids That Aren't Your Kids

[Antigone*]

I talked to the neighbor that took the kitten away from the kid that was trying to drown it in a a swimming pool. The neighbor said that the vet had to give the kitten a large dose of diuretics because of all the water it has swallowed and keep in an environmental room with controlled temperature because, apparently, cats are very prone to shock. The vet's bill was almost $300. Now he says the neighbors that had the mean kid are moving. It seems since that incident they don't like local cops driving by the house they rent a couple of times a day to see what's going on there. They are letting the neighbor keep the cat rather than paying him back for his trouble. It also came out that the kid doesn't go to school because he was suspended for being disruptive, to put it mildly. They also said his 19 year old half-sister was supposed to be watching him, but she claims she was sleeping at the time. I'd like to know what a 19 year old girl would be sleeping at 2 P.M. I just feel sorry for any cats and dogs in the neighborhood they eventually move to.

I know a 19-year old that loves to take afternoon naps.

 

[mistoffolees]

I know a 19-year old that loves to take afternoon naps.

Sure. But there are several problems:

1. A 6 year old doesn't go to school.
2. A 6 year old was wandering around outside and torturing animals.
3. A 6 year old was apparently able to gain access to a swimming pool - which could have led to consequences FAR more severe than a sick cat.

A 19 year old should know better than to take a nap when responsible for a 6 year old.

I would have called CPS.

 

[PQN]

And a 6-year old whose behavior is out of control enough to warrent removal from the regular educational environment NEEDS to be on an IEP with a BIP/FBA that addresses his issues -- including the use of CIBS when warrented. Perhaps a friendly neighbor could suggest to the boy's parents that they persue his rights to an FAPE through the school (as well as some SIGNIFICANT counseling for the child). Hurting animals is an ENORMOUS RED FLAG but with intense treatment there is still a chance to reach the child and change his path in life.

IEP= Individual Education Plan
BIP=Behavior Intervetion Plan
FBA=Functional Behavior Anaylsis
CIBS=Crisis Intervention Behavior Stabilization (an treatment-based alternative to suspension)
FAPE=Free Appropriate Public Education (every US child's federal right)

 

[ajkroy]

Something tells me that we might be seeing headlines with this child's first, middle, and last name in a few decades...

 

[CreativeBlock]

The child is too young to be too competent or have the proper ability to commit a crime.

I respectfully have to disagree. Several convicted violent offenders began abusing and killing animals at an early age. Christine Falling (from near my neck of the woods), a babysitter who murdered her charges, began throwing cats off tall buildings (knowing full well that it would kill them) at the age of 6. Peter Kurten (The "Vampire of Dusseldorf") was busy slitting the throats of pets at that age. Mary Bell was known to have strangled cats at that age. And Edmund Kemper was decapitating dogs at that age and strangling his sister's cats at that age, too.

From a legal standpoint, however, I'd not be able to say if they could be criminally found responsible.

But that level of cruelty and intent does exist in children.

 

[quincy]

It is from the legal standpoint that Ohiogal was talking, I am sure.

Children of a certain age (generally 6 and under) cannot be held criminally liable for their acts and actions under most state laws and under common law. They are not considered capable at that age of forming a criminal intent.

Hence you have the whole juvenile justice system.

However, I am also sure, that no one can argue that some kids can't be horribly and frighteningly cruel and that some of these same horribly and frighteningly cruel kids won't grow up to be horribly and frighteningly cruel adults.

I agree with PQN who stated that animal abuse is a major red flag. The kid needs help.

 

[debodun]

The pool in question was not a huge backyard Olympic sized pool, just a kiddie-wading pool, but enough to see how long a kitten can hold it's breath underwater. What disturbs be most beside the animal abuse and the stoner of a sister made to watch the kid is - why the parents are in such denial. They act like their kids are normal and everyone is over-reacting to a few childish hijinks (boys will be boys). Do they pull up stakes in every community and move each time their kids cause trouble and the local cops start keeping an eye on them?

 

[Silverplum]

Something tells me that we might be seeing headlines with this child's first, middle, and last name in a few decades...

Exceedingly well-put.

 

[mistoffolees]

The pool in question was not a huge backyard Olympic sized pool, just a kiddie-wading pool, but enough to see how long a kitten can hold it's breath underwater.

Which also happens to be enough for a kid to drown.

 

[You Are Guilty]

It is from the legal standpoint that Ohiogal was talking, I am sure.

Children of a certain age (generally 6 and under) cannot be held criminally liable for their acts and actions under most state laws and under common law. They are not considered capable at that age of forming a criminal intent.

Hence you have the whole juvenile justice system.

What happened to this kid?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_kansas_drowning_charge

 

[mistoffolees]

What happened to this kid?
Kansas City girl, 5, may face murder charges in drowning - Yahoo! News

Let's wait until we hear the verdict.

The police often file trumped up charges that the court has to dismiss.