Supervised Placement? does MOM decide by agreeing or not ultimately?

[lordspinny]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Wisconsin!!!

I wrote the GAL in my case saying I want to see my daughter cause Mom has been witholding her for a few months, and Im ok with 4 supervised visits. (Trying to please Mom A little) I think over 4 supervised visits would be overkill. so He wrote and said

"where do you want the placement to take place?" he also wrote

"Id like to hear what the other party has to say" he also wrote

"i prefer to have a stipulation and temporary order signed by all parties and the court"

he also said it would "only take a few days to process if the parties were in agreement"

Well it appears and seems to me if mom doesnt agree Im stuck at still not seeing my daughter. At what point will the court step in or the GAL....Will it continue to be in Moms hands..?

Like if MOM says "no, one 4 hour supervised visit every other week" im stuck because I can see my daughter if I sign into a weak temp order, or does one hold off for a better order? Obviously I have no leverage, and it seems she is being allowed to use the child as leverage.....
So whats the least amount of time I should sign into a temporary order and stipulation......He asked me what I want, but at this point does what I want count?
Just confused, any help or advice how to proceed would help. and if one should stand their ground in this situation?

 

[CJane]

You can:

1) Get Mom to agree to something.
2) Prove to the court that time with you is in the child's best interests.

Good luck with either of those things.

 

[Isis1]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Wisconsin!!!

I wrote the GAL in my case saying I want to see my daughter cause Mom has been witholding her for a few months, and Im ok with 4 supervised visits. (Trying to please Mom A little) I think over 4 supervised visits would be overkill. so He wrote and said

"where do you want the placement to take place?" he also wrote

"Id like to hear what the other party has to say" he also wrote

"i prefer to have a stipulation and temporary order signed by all parties and the court"

he also said it would "only take a few days to process if the parties were in agreement"

Well it appears and seems to me if mom doesnt agree Im stuck at still not seeing my daughter. At what point will the court step in or the GAL....Will it continue to be in Moms hands..?

Like if MOM says "no, one 4 hour supervised visit every other week" im stuck because I can see my daughter if I sign into a weak temp order, or does one hold off for a better order? Obviously I have no leverage, and it seems she is being allowed to use the child as leverage.....
So whats the least amount of time I should sign into a temporary order and stipulation......He asked me what I want, but at this point does what I want count?
Just confused, any help or advice how to proceed would help. and if one should stand their ground in this situation?

write out what you want your end goal to be. then write the steps on how you want to get there. if you have to start off as supervised, then maybe that is the best option.

however, i will ask. what is the nature of having supervised visitation? how old is the child? when was the last time you spent a large amount of time with the child? has there been court ordered supervised visitation in the past? any child social services involvement? criminal record? do you live with any that can be perceived as a danger to the child?

 

[Isis1]

wait....spinny? wisconsin?

 

[Isis1]

Get an attorney! Get an attorney!get an attorney!get an attorney! Get an attorney! Get an attorney! Get an attorney!

 

[Proserpina]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Wisconsin!!!

I wrote the GAL in my case saying I want to see my daughter cause Mom has been witholding her for a few months, and Im ok with 4 supervised visits. (Trying to please Mom A little) I think over 4 supervised visits would be overkill. so He wrote and said

"where do you want the placement to take place?" he also wrote

"Id like to hear what the other party has to say" he also wrote

"i prefer to have a stipulation and temporary order signed by all parties and the court"

he also said it would "only take a few days to process if the parties were in agreement"

Well it appears and seems to me if mom doesnt agree Im stuck at still not seeing my daughter. At what point will the court step in or the GAL....Will it continue to be in Moms hands..?

Like if MOM says "no, one 4 hour supervised visit every other week" im stuck because I can see my daughter if I sign into a weak temp order, or does one hold off for a better order? Obviously I have no leverage, and it seems she is being allowed to use the child as leverage.....
So whats the least amount of time I should sign into a temporary order and stipulation......He asked me what I want, but at this point does what I want count?
Just confused, any help or advice how to proceed would help. and if one should stand their ground in this situation?

So you lied about filing the ex parte motion, huh?

(Was this after you realized that the link to what you said was your ex's recent arrest actually..well...wasn't your ex at all?)

I'll actually answer this. If Mom doesn't agree, it will warrant further investigation. The GAL will make a recommendation which will carry a lot of weight. Then the court will decide.

Because it's you, and given your history, you're actually being naive if you think 4 supervised visits is enough. You should expect at least double....if not for 6 months.

 

[Ohiogal]

wait....spinny? wisconsin?

Yes dear. You fell for it. He's BAAAAACCCCCKKKKKKKK.

 

[Isis1]

Yes dear. You fell for it. He's BAAAAACCCCCKKKKKKKK.

i'm pulling out the Unicorn Poo for this one. At least my manure tastes good.

 

[Antigone*]

Get an attorney! Get an attorney!get an attorney!get an attorney! Get an attorney! Get an attorney! Get an attorney!

And a Shrink

 

[lordspinny]

ok ok

Pro says 6 months of supervised visits. So every other week for 3 months then 1 a week for 3 months......the GAL asked me where I wanted it to take place and I said in my town, cause its the closest town that has a service like supervision facility, because it is a 40 mile drive i also offered 30.oo a viist for gas. I said i wanted 1 supervised visit 1 time a week for 4 weeks and then if I get a good recomendation from the supervisor i would want the kid 48 hours a week**************

I am open to Moms agreement providing its rationale....I think mom is gonna disagree all around the board, starting with transporting the daughter, she has allready said in emails i am responsible for transportation, well My car blew up on the way to the last hearing, in the middle of nowhere so its bye bye**************
My offer of 30.00 bucks for gas is how i am trying to nip that up front..
OK id also be ok with 2 months of supervised vistits here in the city...
I live in a 3 bedroom house in a nice neighborhood and Have a room for kiddo herself as well as lots of toys clothes and food and all that....within 1 mile of a hospital and within 2 miles of 10 parks, 3 miles from downtown where there are lots of childrens museums and activities thru out the year.

TO PRO: I see you are reading the final order from florida and the incorrect dates of filings**************LOL I DID FILE AN EXPARTE MOTION ON 9/14/2010. ITS IN THE RECORD, ILL SHARE THE LINK IN A pm IF YOU LIKE.....

they seemed to rely on those intial dates for judgement and thats a whole other issue for appeal if i go that way. Dates they got wrong in final order 9/18 2010 mom filed for mediation so they say, real date 9/20/2010. 9/28/2010 I filed something?so they say: real date 9/14/2010 i filed for emergency return of child.

thx for the decent advice though, on writing out what my goal is.....I didnt move 1300 miles to be a thorn in moms side....I just wanna parent my child.

 

[mistoffolees]

Yes dear. You fell for it. He's BAAAAACCCCCKKKKKKKK.

The sad thing is that some poor soul in WI is not going to get a response because their situation sounds like salad.

I wish he'd just grow up and stop with his nonsense.

 

[Isis1]

Pro says 6 months of supervised visits. So every other week for 3 months then 1 a week for 3 months......the GAL asked me where I wanted it to take place and I said in my town, cause its the closest town that has a service like supervision facility, because it is a 40 mile drive i also offered 30.oo a viist for gas. I said i wanted 1 supervised visit 1 time a week for 4 weeks and then if I get a good recomendation from the supervisor i would want the kid 48 hours a week**************

I am open to Moms agreement providing its rationale....I think mom is gonna disagree all around the board, starting with transporting the daughter, she has allready said in emails i am responsible for transportation, well My car blew up on the way to the last hearing, in the middle of nowhere so its bye bye**************
My offer of 30.00 bucks for gas is how i am trying to nip that up front..
OK id also be ok with 2 months of supervised vistits here in the city...
I live in a 3 bedroom house in a nice neighborhood and Have a room for kiddo herself as well as lots of toys clothes and food and all that....within 1 mile of a hospital and within 2 miles of 10 parks, 3 miles from downtown where there are lots of childrens museums and activities thru out the year.

TO PRO: I see you are reading the final order from florida and the incorrect dates of filings**************LOL I DID FILE AN EXPARTE MOTION ON 9/14/2010. ITS IN THE RECORD, ILL SHARE THE LINK IN A pm IF YOU LIKE.....

they seemed to rely on those intial dates for judgement and thats a whole other issue for appeal if i go that way. Dates they got wrong in final order 9/18 2010 mom filed for mediation so they say, real date 9/20/2010. 9/28/2010 I filed something?so they say: real date 9/14/2010 i filed for emergency return of child.

thx for the decent advice though, on writing out what my goal is.....I didnt move 1300 miles to be a thorn in moms side....I just wanna parent my child.

supervised visitation will happen in the child's hometown. get over it.

we have the link to your sites. it's public record.

 

[not2cleverRed]

Oh Munificent Spinner of Salads...

(Sorry. Couldn't resist.)

I guess there's something to be said for persistence.

I suspect you still have a long road, but it sounds like you're closer
to being on the right track.

$30 for gas? I suggest you rent a car for visits. That's what my ex does.

Where you live, and how many parks are around won't be a factor for supervised visits.

 

[Proserpina]

Pro says 6 months of supervised visits. So every other week for 3 months then 1 a week for 3 months......the GAL asked me where I wanted it to take place and I said in my town, cause its the closest town that has a service like supervision facility, because it is a 40 mile drive i also offered 30.oo a viist for gas. I said i wanted 1 supervised visit 1 time a week for 4 weeks and then if I get a good recomendation from the supervisor i would want the kid 48 hours a week**************

I am open to Moms agreement providing its rationale....I think mom is gonna disagree all around the board, starting with transporting the daughter, she has allready said in emails i am responsible for transportation, well My car blew up on the way to the last hearing, in the middle of nowhere so its bye bye**************
My offer of 30.00 bucks for gas is how i am trying to nip that up front..
OK id also be ok with 2 months of supervised vistits here in the city...
I live in a 3 bedroom house in a nice neighborhood and Have a room for kiddo herself as well as lots of toys clothes and food and all that....within 1 mile of a hospital and within 2 miles of 10 parks, 3 miles from downtown where there are lots of childrens museums and activities thru out the year.

TO PRO: I see you are reading the final order from florida and the incorrect dates of filings**************LOL I DID FILE AN EXPARTE MOTION ON 9/14/2010. ITS IN THE RECORD, ILL SHARE THE LINK IN A pm IF YOU LIKE.....

they seemed to rely on those intial dates for judgement and thats a whole other issue for appeal if i go that way. Dates they got wrong in final order 9/18 2010 mom filed for mediation so they say, real date 9/20/2010. 9/28/2010 I filed something?so they say: real date 9/14/2010 i filed for emergency return of child.

thx for the decent advice though, on writing out what my goal is.....I didnt move 1300 miles to be a thorn in moms side....I just wanna parent my child.

No, spinny. I was referring to your recent thread under yet another moniker stating that you had JUST recently filed not only an appeal, but another ex parte because you told us your ex was arrested in May and had criminal drug charges pending.

You provided us with the link to what you said was the docket concerning your ex's recent charges.

Guess what?

That wasn't your ex.

 

[mistoffolees]

No, spinny. I was referring to your recent thread under yet another moniker stating that you had JUST recently filed not only an appeal, but another ex parte because you told us your ex was arrested in May and had criminal drug charges pending.

You provided us with the link to what you said was the docket concerning your ex's recent charges.

Guess what?

That wasn't your ex.

Spinny is so confused he doesn't even know who he was married to?