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Bad Break Up and Losing Puppy

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redplate

Junior Member
Hi I Live in Minnesota. I know it's a little wacky but this means a lot to me. My long time girlfriend recently separated. There is no fixing this. Another guy yada yada. I don't care so much anymore.

Anyhow in March of 2010 she insisted we get a puppy. I love dogs but knew this was a huge responsibility that she had never dealt with before. I came from a big dog family we love and cherish all of our dogs. They never go with out medical support, food, or love. She agreed to take all responsibility, which included paying the adoption fee, which I had no money for at the time and paying for a couple rounds of vaccinations. Money was tight for me at the time because I had just started a new job. Once I assumed no financial obligation I agreed.

We took (lets call her) Sadie, a13-week-old puppy, home after she had signed all the paperwork and handed the dog rescue a $250 adoption fee. I fell in love with Sadie on the ride home. So the financial woes that had bothered me started to fade. Not for long however, I was soon laid off from my new job.

During my time out of work I was Sadie's main caregiver. My girlfriend saw Sadie more as a living teddy bear that she could play with when ever she wanted with out taking the dog for walks or even purchasing dog food let alone covering the cost of any medical treatment the dog needed. This continued until we split up in December of last year. We lived under the same roof until I moved 2 hours away this May. I continued to purchase food and take care of the dog but I could not afford the spendier things like dog obedience and flea and tick medication while living together until May.

My concerns for wanting custody of the dog. I care about this animal like its my child but I have been concerned for Sadie's well being. My ex girlfriend lives in a small 1 bedroom house with 1 roommate and two other dogs. Sadie has ran away 4 to 5 times in the past month. One time a neighbor spotted Sadie chasing a deer. In northern Minnesota most people shoot a dog when they see it chasing a deer. Also Sadie has not received her second round of rabies, limes, and booster shots. She is not being provided with important things like Flea and Tick control or medicine that prevents heartworms. Also her radio microchip identification annual fee has not been paid nor has she gotten the dog registered or provided obedience training as she is obligated to do in the adoption contract.

What I think maybe worthy to a case of claiming ownership:
I am the primary contact at the Veterinary clinic that I brought Sadie to. I also am the primary account holder of the radio microchip. I am also planning on paying the fee associated with the microchip since I found she has not paid them.

Problems associated with trying to build a case: She did pay the initial fee to adopt the dog and signed the paper work. Also she has the dog in her possession. I also do not have a suitable place for the dog to live with me, but my parents have agreed to hold the dog until I do have a suitable residence. They have ample room for Sadie and are caring dog people.

Another helpful case builder is a neighbor that saw the dog chasing deer complained to my ex about it. No official complaint was filed however.

Does anyone know how I could approach this? I really want to know my puppy is safe and being taken care of. I also fear if I take legal action she will try to hide the dog. It maybe unethical but I do get visitation on occasion and was wondering if it would be a bad idea to hold the dog until a civil proceeding took place if need be.
 


Banned_Princess

Senior Member
It is almost impossible to have property returned to you (in this case a dog) via court order.

your best hope is to get half of the value of the dog, or half of what you can prove you paid for the dog.


your not going to get the dog. sorry.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
In all seriousness... you can try small claims court, but don't even think of trying to get "custody" of the dog. She is not a child - she is considered property.

Or... ask your ex if you can have the dog if you pay her the adoption fee.
 

redplate

Junior Member
She wont take money that's for sure. She allready owes me 800 dollars. If she can't produce the papers would I be ok? I am litterally listed as owner at the vet and when her microchip is scanned I come up as the owner. The microchipping takes place after the adoption fee I technically. Have the latest record of ownership.
 

Banned_Princess

Senior Member
She wont take money that's for sure. She allready owes me 800 dollars. If she can't produce the papers would I be ok? I am litterally listed as owner at the vet and when her microchip is scanned I come up as the owner. The microchipping takes place after the adoption fee I technically. Have the latest record of ownership.
well then call the police about the theft of your property.
 

Banned_Princess

Senior Member
but I just told him, that he will not get the property returned as an order. he will be assessed a monetary award. anything is possible, even if the possibility is close to nil.

we are just circling the fact that she essentially stole his property, and depending on the value of the property, the police should be called, first.

maybe a visit by some detectives will sway her to return the dog.

I don't think dogs depreciate in value. what you paid for the dog is what you will get.
 

mistoffolees

Senior Member
but I just told him, that he will not get the property returned as an order. he will be assessed a monetary award. anything is possible, even if the possibility is close to nil.
Small claims court is weird. I've seen a number of judgments where the person had to return property.
 

Banned_Princess

Senior Member
well it is up to the judges discretion, and I guess we cant really know what that would be. It is their job to do whatever they think is fair and legal...

I would still see the cops first, suit second.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
I am not sure that technically he is the owner of the dog. She paid the adoption fee and signed the paperwork there. Even if she cannot find her original paperwork I bet she could get a copy from the agency that handled the pet adoption.

His name showing on the microchip and the vet may not be enough evidence that he is the dog owner.
 

Bali Hai

Senior Member
Hi I Live in Minnesota. I know it's a little wacky but this means a lot to me. My long time girlfriend recently separated. There is no fixing this. Another guy yada yada. I don't care so much anymore.

Anyhow in March of 2010 she insisted we get a puppy. I love dogs but knew this was a huge responsibility that she had never dealt with before. I came from a big dog family we love and cherish all of our dogs. They never go with out medical support, food, or love. She agreed to take all responsibility, which included paying the adoption fee, which I had no money for at the time and paying for a couple rounds of vaccinations. Money was tight for me at the time because I had just started a new job. Once I assumed no financial obligation I agreed.

We took (lets call her) Sadie, a13-week-old puppy, home after she had signed all the paperwork and handed the dog rescue a $250 adoption fee. I fell in love with Sadie on the ride home. So the financial woes that had bothered me started to fade. Not for long however, I was soon laid off from my new job.

During my time out of work I was Sadie's main caregiver. My girlfriend saw Sadie more as a living teddy bear that she could play with when ever she wanted with out taking the dog for walks or even purchasing dog food let alone covering the cost of any medical treatment the dog needed. This continued until we split up in December of last year. We lived under the same roof until I moved 2 hours away this May. I continued to purchase food and take care of the dog but I could not afford the spendier things like dog obedience and flea and tick medication while living together until May.

My concerns for wanting custody of the dog. I care about this animal like its my child but I have been concerned for Sadie's well being. My ex girlfriend lives in a small 1 bedroom house with 1 roommate and two other dogs. Sadie has ran away 4 to 5 times in the past month. One time a neighbor spotted Sadie chasing a deer. In northern Minnesota most people shoot a dog when they see it chasing a deer. Also Sadie has not received her second round of rabies, limes, and booster shots. She is not being provided with important things like Flea and Tick control or medicine that prevents heartworms. Also her radio microchip identification annual fee has not been paid nor has she gotten the dog registered or provided obedience training as she is obligated to do in the adoption contract.

What I think maybe worthy to a case of claiming ownership:
I am the primary contact at the Veterinary clinic that I brought Sadie to. I also am the primary account holder of the radio microchip. I am also planning on paying the fee associated with the microchip since I found she has not paid them.

Problems associated with trying to build a case: She did pay the initial fee to adopt the dog and signed the paper work. Also she has the dog in her possession. I also do not have a suitable place for the dog to live with me, but my parents have agreed to hold the dog until I do have a suitable residence. They have ample room for Sadie and are caring dog people.

Another helpful case builder is a neighbor that saw the dog chasing deer complained to my ex about it. No official complaint was filed however.

Does anyone know how I could approach this? I really want to know my puppy is safe and being taken care of. I also fear if I take legal action she will try to hide the dog. It maybe unethical but I do get visitation on occasion and was wondering if it would be a bad idea to hold the dog until a civil proceeding took place if need be.
Walk away and get another dog and be glad you got rid of the mutt.
 

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