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JenniSam

Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Michigan

Just wondering how others would handle this:

On September 20th around 10 pm we received a call from our renter saying the power was out at the home. We had an electrician out to fix the problem by 3 pm the next day. Upon entering the home we discovered that the tenant has quite a sophisticated marijuana grow operation. The wires in the circuit box were burned and could have caught fire. We learned that the problem with the power was that the circuits were probably overloaded from the grow op. I made no big deal about the repair bill because my intent was to end the tenancy soon after finding this. I covered the cost and informed the renter that that the grow op had to go. He claimed to have a medical license but would remove the set up by Oct 17th. He claimed he needed that much time to remove the set up and since we normally collect his rent that day, it was the perfect day to do an inspection to be sure it was removed. Well yesterday we called to set up a time to stop by and he informed us that the power outage ruined his stove and microwave so he is not paying past due or future rent. Our lease states that renters should obtain renters insurance. He also wants us to pay for a new stove and microwave and he doesn’t want to move until end of November. I planned to just call the police. However, I am concerned that it may seem like retaliation. I was able to confirm that my current rental dwelling insurance will not cover claims related to marijuana growing and can be grounds for them to cancel my policy.

I paid an attorney for a quick consultation (it was only $30) and he suggested that I fall back on the clause in my lease that prohibits using the property for commercial use. I like this route because I am concerned with “violating his rights” to use marijuana for medicinal purposes and I am leery of going down that road. My lease covers me in the ways listed below and I just want him out as a soon as possible. I plan is to use Michigan form Notice to Quit, Termination of Tenancy, Landlord-Tenant (dc100c.pdf) and give 7 days on the grounds that the grow op is a hazard and causes injury to the premises. I could give a 7 day pay or quit since rent is late as of today but I don’t want him to pay and stay. I want him out. Does anyone foresee anything that would make my plan invalid?

Current lease violations (short verison):

*Residential Lease only and prohibits any commercial activity or trade.
*No Pets. Learned he has a new dog too.
*No improvements without consent. He has built a structure and changed the venting system
* Tenant is to notify landlord of any use of the premises that is not considered normal use.
* No illegal trade or activity. However I did not specify state and federal (will be updated for future lease)
*Tenant shall not keep or have hazardous materials that may increase danger of fire or that might be considered hazardous by any reasonable insurance.

Thanks for feedback and suggestions!What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
 


BL

Senior Member
You run the risk of losing your property if you let it continue . Call the police and evict if nessesary.
 

Antigone*

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Michigan

Just wondering how others would handle this:

On September 20th around 10 pm we received a call from our renter saying the power was out at the home. We had an electrician out to fix the problem by 3 pm the next day. Upon entering the home we discovered that the tenant has quite a sophisticated marijuana grow operation. The wires in the circuit box were burned and could have caught fire. We learned that the problem with the power was that the circuits were probably overloaded from the grow op. I made no big deal about the repair bill because my intent was to end the tenancy soon after finding this. I covered the cost and informed the renter that that the grow op had to go. He claimed to have a medical license but would remove the set up by Oct 17th. He claimed he needed that much time to remove the set up and since we normally collect his rent that day, it was the perfect day to do an inspection to be sure it was removed. Well yesterday we called to set up a time to stop by and he informed us that the power outage ruined his stove and microwave so he is not paying past due or future rent. Our lease states that renters should obtain renters insurance. He also wants us to pay for a new stove and microwave and he doesn’t want to move until end of November. I planned to just call the police. However, I am concerned that it may seem like retaliation. I was able to confirm that my current rental dwelling insurance will not cover claims related to marijuana growing and can be grounds for them to cancel my policy.

I paid an attorney for a quick consultation (it was only $30) and he suggested that I fall back on the clause in my lease that prohibits using the property for commercial use. I like this route because I am concerned with “violating his rights” to use marijuana for medicinal purposes and I am leery of going down that road. My lease covers me in the ways listed below and I just want him out as a soon as possible. I plan is to use Michigan form Notice to Quit, Termination of Tenancy, Landlord-Tenant (dc100c.pdf) and give 7 days on the grounds that the grow op is a hazard and causes injury to the premises. I could give a 7 day pay or quit since rent is late as of today but I don’t want him to pay and stay. I want him out. Does anyone foresee anything that would make my plan invalid?

Current lease violations (short verison):

*Residential Lease only and prohibits any commercial activity or trade.
*No Pets. Learned he has a new dog too.
*No improvements without consent. He has built a structure and changed the venting system
* Tenant is to notify landlord of any use of the premises that is not considered normal use.
* No illegal trade or activity. However I did not specify state and federal (will be updated for future lease)
*Tenant shall not keep or have hazardous materials that may increase danger of fire or that might be considered hazardous by any reasonable insurance.

Thanks for feedback and suggestions!What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
Why didn't you immediately call the police when you discovered the MJ growing operation?
 

JenniSam

Member
I was honestly scared off a little when he showed me his license to grow and to be a care giver. Of course he gave the story about it being his right and how I would violating his rights, but if I was uncomfortable he would remove the set up and allow us to inspect. I have never had problems with him in the almost 2 years that he had been there so I believed him. Now all of a sudden its a problem. I guess I should say that I have called the police but not right when it happened. I called yesterday and had to leave a message for the drug enforcement team... No call back yet.
 

Banned_Princess

Senior Member
I was honestly scared off a little when he showed me his license to grow and to be a care giver. Of course he gave the story about it being his right and how I would violating his rights, but if I was uncomfortable he would remove the set up and allow us to inspect. I have never had problems with him in the almost 2 years that he had been there so I believed him. Now all of a sudden its a problem. I guess I should say that I have called the police but not right when it happened. I called yesterday and had to leave a message for the drug enforcement team... No call back yet.
did he have his license to grow posted conspicuously?

he has a license, he isn't breaking the law, he is abiding by the law.
 

Banned_Princess

Senior Member
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69.51A.040
Failure to seize marijuana, qualifying patients' affirmative defense.

*** CHANGE IN 2011 *** (SEE 5073-S2.SL) ***

(1) If a law enforcement officer determines that marijuana is being possessed lawfully under the medical marijuana law, the officer may document the amount of marijuana, take a representative sample that is large enough to test, but not seize the marijuana. A law enforcement officer or agency shall not be held civilly liable for failure to seize marijuana in this circumstance.

(2) If charged with a violation of state law relating to marijuana, any qualifying patient who is engaged in the medical use of marijuana, or any designated provider who assists a qualifying patient in the medical use of marijuana, will be deemed to have established an affirmative defense to such charges by proof of his or her compliance with the requirements provided in this chapter. Any person meeting the requirements appropriate to his or her status under this chapter shall be considered to have engaged in activities permitted by this chapter and shall not be penalized in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, for such actions.

(3) A qualifying patient, if eighteen years of age or older, or a designated provider shall:

(a) Meet all criteria for status as a qualifying patient or designated provider;

(b) Possess no more marijuana than is necessary for the patient's personal, medical use, not exceeding the amount necessary for a sixty-day supply; and

(c) Present his or her valid documentation to any law enforcement official who questions the patient or provider regarding his or her medical use of marijuana.

(4) A qualifying patient, if under eighteen years of age at the time he or she is alleged to have committed the offense, shall demonstrate compliance with subsection (3)(a) and (c) of this section. However, any possession under subsection (3)(b) of this section, as well as any production, acquisition, and decision as to dosage and frequency of use, shall be the responsibility of the parent or legal guardian of the qualifying patient.
 

JenniSam

Member
did he have his license to grow posted conspicuously?

he has a license, he isn't breaking the law, he is abiding by the law.
He showed me a card he pulled from his wallet, no other paperwork. I am in no position to confirm if it was real or fake. From what I understand it is easy to fake them but a police officer has a number they can call to verify if the "#" on the card is valid.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
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69.51A.040
Failure to seize marijuana, qualifying patients' affirmative defense.

*** CHANGE IN 2011 *** (SEE 5073-S2.SL) ***

(1) If a law enforcement officer determines that marijuana is being possessed lawfully under the medical marijuana law, the officer may document the amount of marijuana, take a representative sample that is large enough to test, but not seize the marijuana. A law enforcement officer or agency shall not be held civilly liable for failure to seize marijuana in this circumstance.

(2) If charged with a violation of state law relating to marijuana, any qualifying patient who is engaged in the medical use of marijuana, or any designated provider who assists a qualifying patient in the medical use of marijuana, will be deemed to have established an affirmative defense to such charges by proof of his or her compliance with the requirements provided in this chapter. Any person meeting the requirements appropriate to his or her status under this chapter shall be considered to have engaged in activities permitted by this chapter and shall not be penalized in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, for such actions.

(3) A qualifying patient, if eighteen years of age or older, or a designated provider shall:

(a) Meet all criteria for status as a qualifying patient or designated provider;

(b) Possess no more marijuana than is necessary for the patient's personal, medical use, not exceeding the amount necessary for a sixty-day supply; and

(c) Present his or her valid documentation to any law enforcement official who questions the patient or provider regarding his or her medical use of marijuana.

(4) A qualifying patient, if under eighteen years of age at the time he or she is alleged to have committed the offense, shall demonstrate compliance with subsection (3)(a) and (c) of this section. However, any possession under subsection (3)(b) of this section, as well as any production, acquisition, and decision as to dosage and frequency of use, shall be the responsibility of the parent or legal guardian of the qualifying patient.
Federal law...Federal law...
 

Banned_Princess

Senior Member
Nope, he's breaking Federal law...and that is in direct violation of the lease.
then why didn't the lawyer tell the OP to go that way, instead of telling him/her to use the commercial use clause?

unless he is selling the weed he is not using for commercial purpose.

yes, it might be federal law, but WA has a state law governing the use and distrobution.

the police cannot do anything if the grow card is valid, and he isnt growing too much.
 

Gail in Georgia

Senior Member
How interesting....

Your tenant provides you with no notice that he has this grow operation, fries your electrical system from his overload then refuses to pay rent because his actions supposedly caused damage to his stove and microwave.

This MIGHT have been different if he had notified you of his plan to become a marijuana farmer and the electrical system had been checked out beforehand to ensure it could handle this extra load.

Continue the process of eviction due to failure to pay owed rent.

Gail
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
the police cannot do anything if the grow card is valid, and he isnt growing too much.
The lease states that the property will not be used in a manner that violates the law (paraphrased, of course.) The tenant is violating the law. The tenant is violating the lease.
 

JenniSam

Member
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69.51A.040
Failure to seize marijuana, qualifying patients' affirmative defense.

*** CHANGE IN 2011 *** (SEE 5073-S2.SL) ***

(1) If a law enforcement officer determines that marijuana is being possessed lawfully under the medical marijuana law, the officer may document the amount of marijuana, take a representative sample that is large enough to test, but not seize the marijuana. A law enforcement officer or agency shall not be held civilly liable for failure to seize marijuana in this circumstance.

(2) If charged with a violation of state law relating to marijuana, any qualifying patient who is engaged in the medical use of marijuana, or any designated provider who assists a qualifying patient in the medical use of marijuana, will be deemed to have established an affirmative defense to such charges by proof of his or her compliance with the requirements provided in this chapter. Any person meeting the requirements appropriate to his or her status under this chapter shall be considered to have engaged in activities permitted by this chapter and shall not be penalized in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, for such actions.

(3) A qualifying patient, if eighteen years of age or older, or a designated provider shall:

(a) Meet all criteria for status as a qualifying patient or designated provider;

(b) Possess no more marijuana than is necessary for the patient's personal, medical use, not exceeding the amount necessary for a sixty-day supply; and

(c) Present his or her valid documentation to any law enforcement official who questions the patient or provider regarding his or her medical use of marijuana.

(4) A qualifying patient, if under eighteen years of age at the time he or she is alleged to have committed the offense, shall demonstrate compliance with subsection (3)(a) and (c) of this section. However, any possession under subsection (3)(b) of this section, as well as any production, acquisition, and decision as to dosage and frequency of use, shall be the responsibility of the parent or legal guardian of the qualifying patient.
This is what I was worried about... the risk of violating his rights. However, its ruining the house. He has a whole set up built with huge lights, tanks of what appear to be oxygen or something similar and an irrigation system. The water is causing high humidity and what appears to be mold to form. It can be easily cleaned and know not all mold is toxic. But we asked him to at least address the mold issue with bleach cleaner and he refused stating it was our responsibility (also covered in the lease as tenants responsibility when caused) even though he is causing it. I don't care that he grows it, just not at the expense of my home. If he causes a fire my insurance will not cover it.
 

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