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sammigirl22

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Wyoming

My daughter will be one here in a few weeks and I am now going for child support. The father (ex) agreed that if i didn't go for cs he would help buy diapers formula etc. he has not done this since shes been born so i am going for cs. he has recently put in a visitation order.

i have asked him over and over if he would like to see her, he would always say no. he has seen her once and it was when she was 2 weeks old. i was planning on moving but dont want to if he is going to be granted visits. can i ask for supervised visits since he has a criminal history of domestic abuse and drug charges? He also has about 10 grand in back child support (from a previous marriage).

is it better to just drop the order for cs and stay drama free?
 


Antigone*

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Wyoming

My daughter will be one here in a few weeks and I am now going for child support. The father (ex) agreed that if i didn't go for cs he would help buy diapers formula etc. he has not done this since shes been born so i am going for cs. he has recently put in a visitation order.

i have asked him over and over if he would like to see her, he would always say no. he has seen her once and it was when she was 2 weeks old. i was planning on moving but dont want to if he is going to be granted visits. can i ask for supervised visits since he has a criminal history of domestic abuse and drug charges? He also has about 10 grand in back child support (from a previous marriage).

is it better to just drop the order for cs and stay drama free?
So, you had a baby with this guy who has a criminal record, history of domestic violence and drugs?

You said he has visitation but does not use it, what makes you think you can go back now and get that changed to supervised. What has changed since the first visitation order was granted ~ did he become a serial killer?

Good luck getting support from a man that you decided to have a baby with, which you knew already did not support his prior child(ren).
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Wyoming

My daughter will be one here in a few weeks and I am now going for child support. The father (ex) agreed that if i didn't go for cs he would help buy diapers formula etc. he has not done this since shes been born so i am going for cs. he has recently put in a visitation order.

i have asked him over and over if he would like to see her, he would always say no. he has seen her once and it was when she was 2 weeks old. i was planning on moving but dont want to if he is going to be granted visits. can i ask for supervised visits since he has a criminal history of domestic abuse and drug charges? He also has about 10 grand in back child support (from a previous marriage).

is it better to just drop the order for cs and stay drama free?
4 days ago, you were "thinking about" filing for divorce. Now he's your ex?

What's the REAL story here?

https://forum.freeadvice.com/divorce-separation-annulment-36/please-help-566812.html
 

sammigirl22

Junior Member
So, you had a baby with this guy who has a criminal record, history of domestic violence and drugs?

You said he has visitation but does not use it, what makes you think you can go back now and get that changed to supervised. What has changed since the first visitation order was granted ~ did he become a serial killer?

Good luck getting support from a man that you decided to have a baby with, which you knew already did not support his prior child(ren).
no we dont have anything ordered yet, he put in court he wants visits, he hasn't been granted anything yet

he didn't have this issue when we were together, this all happened after we seperated
 

Silverplum

Senior Member
Despite the fact that you are clearly lying about something here, I'll answer your child support question for the benefit of possible future readers. :)p:rolleyes:)

Court orders are good for everybody. The child deserves the support of both parents. The child deserves a chance to form a relationship with each parent. The best way to ensure that the child gets what s/he deserves is to settle it in court, and everybody is held responsible for his/her part.



What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Wyoming

My daughter will be one here in a few weeks and I am now going for child support. The father (ex) agreed that if i didn't go for cs he would help buy diapers formula etc. he has not done this since shes been born so i am going for cs. he has recently put in a visitation order.

i have asked him over and over if he would like to see her, he would always say no. he has seen her once and it was when she was 2 weeks old. i was planning on moving but dont want to if he is going to be granted visits. can i ask for supervised visits since he has a criminal history of domestic abuse and drug charges? He also has about 10 grand in back child support (from a previous marriage).

is it better to just drop the order for cs and stay drama free?
 

sammigirl22

Junior Member
Despite the fact that you are clearly lying about something here, I'll answer your child support question for the benefit of possible future readers. :)p:rolleyes:)

Court orders are good for everybody. The child deserves the support of both parents. The child deserves a chance to form a relationship with each parent. The best way to ensure that the child gets what s/he deserves is to settle it in court, and everybody is held responsible for his/her part.
I am not saying that i don't want a relationship between the two of them , but visitation is a right correct? he never wanted to see or do anything with her before, even after many attempts made by me. so he's already thousands behind in child support i probably wont be seeing any of that help, and he will still be able to get visits?
what about the criminal history?
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
I am not saying that i don't want a relationship between the two of them , but visitation is a right correct? he never wanted to see or do anything with her before, even after many attempts made by me. so he's already thousands behind in child support i probably wont be seeing any of that help, and he will still be able to get visits?
what about the criminal history?
Please read post 8 and answer the question(s). Thanks.
 

Silverplum

Senior Member
I am not saying that i don't want a relationship between the two of them , but visitation is a right correct? he never wanted to see or do anything with her before, even after many attempts made by me.
Yes, it's his right. And he can leave it sitting around getting dusty, or he can exercise it (with court permission, in varying manners) up until your mutual child is 18 years old.

And his right confers upon you an obligation to support and encourage their relationship.

The child's right to support confers upon the noncustodial parent the obligation to pay support, and upon the custodial parent the right to receive the support.

You are layering your thoughts on top of a little bit of legal info. You'll be so much better informed if you just read and learn, and let the correct knowlege be your guide. :)

sammigirl22 said:
so he's already thousands behind in child support i probably wont be seeing any of that help, and he will still be able to get visits?
That support is owed to the mother of his previous child/ren. You got into that sinky boat.

Here's another legal fact to learn: child support payments are NOT a ticket to see one's child/ren. Ever. He can never pay support and still see his child regularly: he will be held responsible for the CS by the state, not by you. You are not The Enforcer, the Court is The Enforcer.

sammigirl22 said:
what about the criminal history?
What about it?

Read everything I wrote.
 

CSO286

Senior Member
I am not saying that i don't want a relationship between the two of them , but visitation is a right correct? he never wanted to see or do anything with her before, even after many attempts made by me. so he's already thousands behind in child support i probably wont be seeing any of that help, and he will still be able to get visits?what about the criminal history?
Yes, visitation is his RIGHT to exercise or not to exercise.

However, if Dad chooses to exercise his RIGHT, you have the court ordered OBLIGATION to have the child ready for said visit.

Do you see the disctintion here? Dad can choose to exercise his right or not, you do not get to choose whether he can or can't.

Now, as to child support. Unless provided for by court order (and that is extremely rare), Dad's non-payment of support is not grounds to deny him his RIGHT to parenting time (Can you see how that would be punitive if he were unemployed/injured through no fault of his own and unable to pay???). By the same token, he may not withhold child support because the custodial parent refuses to present the child for parenting time.
 

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