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Camellia7

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1. When were you "married"? Where?
WE married in 2004 in Hawaii.
2. Please provide a list of states where you lived together including the years.
We have been living in CA since our marriage and never moved to any other sate.
3. What was filed in Nevada? When?
- He has made two annulments by a way of fraud and misrepresentation of facts in Nevada. Both times no documents were ever served to me personally, neither by mail or any other way. He continued to live with me as my husband at the marital home in California without any disclosure of his deeds. I first found out about his annulments in August 2011 and I filed a Motion To Set Aside Decree Of Annulment.
First annulment he made in 2006 when we had a conflict.He never lived in Nevada but he falsified his residency.After that he invited me to Nevada and offered to marry for fun as he told then.He never told he made annulment then.So we were married again in Nevada in 2007.The second annulment he made after our conflict that took a place 2009, when my hands and legs were injured and police advised me that I should seek an Emergency Protective Order against him.
4. When did he FILE for an annulment in CA? You said it was granted in 2009.
He never filed anything in CA,because he was afraid he would lose his yacht and money.
5. Why did not you not find out until 2011?
Because the affidavit of service was made by his friend who never served any documents to me.
6. What were the grounds that he used to obtain an annulment and what evidence did he present?
He claimed that I married him only because of green card. It's a lie. I married him honestly and have been living with him for 7 years in our marital house.
I have a witness who was told by my husband why he did his annulments behind my back and he begged her say nothing to me.
 
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LdiJ

Senior Member
You don't understand. If he was granted an annulment, you were never married. The annulment says that the marriage never existed so it is incorrect to say that the car was bought during your marriage.

Of course, something doesn't add up. You stated earlier that "He hid from Nevada Court community property and left me without any portion of community property and social benefits as his wife."

If you had a Nevada community property settlement, then that would mean that you got a divorce - and a CA annulment would be meaningless. OTOH, it's more likely that you simply don't understand what's going on. Please give us a timeline:

1. When were you "married"? Where?
2. Please provide a list of states where you lived together including the years.
3. What was filed in Nevada? When?
4. When did he FILE for an annulment in CA? You said it was granted in 2009.
5. Why did not you not find out until 2011?
6. What were the grounds that he used to obtain an annulment and what evidence did he present?

That will help everyone here to understand the situation since your posts aren't clear.



First, follow the contact information that others have given you.

Then, pick up a phone and call some attorneys. Many (if not most) attorneys will give you an initial consultation for free. This will help you to understand what's going on and what your rights are. They may be able to offer ways to assist you even if your non-husband has all the money.
I believe that what she is saying is that they were married in CA, always lived in CA, and that her husband got a fraudulent annulment in NV. He clearly hid that annulment from her until recently.

She also stated that that the case has been re-opened in NV due to this, and that they have a hearing in a couple of months. Therefore, its not a done deal at this point. The judge in NV should overturn the annulment and dismiss the case for lack of jurisdiction.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
And, after ALL of this, we are back at: It's not the OP's car.

ETA: The divorce filing would preclude the OP from disposing of the vehicle, but it would not preclude him from taking the vehicle for his own use.
 

mistoffolees

Senior Member
1. When were you "married"? Where?
WE married in 2004 in Hawaii.
2. Please provide a list of states where you lived together including the years.
We have been living in CA since our marriage and never moved to any other sate.
3. What was filed in Nevada? When?
- He has made two annulments by a way of fraud and misrepresentation of facts in Nevada. Both times no documents were ever served to me personally, neither by mail or any other way. He continued to live with me as my husband at the marital home in California without any disclosure of his deeds. I first found out about his annulments in August 2011 and I filed a Motion To Set Aside Decree Of Annulment.
First annulment he made in 2006 when we had a conflict.He never lived in Nevada but he falsified his residency.After that he invited me to Nevada and offered to marry for fun as he told then.He never told he made annulment then.So we were married again in Nevada in 2007.The second annulment he made after our conflict that took a place 2009, when my hands and legs were injured and police advised me that I should seek an Emergency Protective Order against him.
4. When did he FILE for an annulment in CA? You said it was granted in 2009.
He never filed anything in CA,because he was afraid he would lose his yacht and money.
5. Why did not you not find out until 2011?
Because the affidavit of service was made by his friend who never served any documents to me.
6. What were the grounds that he used to obtain an annulment and what evidence did he present?
He claimed that I married him only because of green card. It's a lie. I married him honestly and have been living with him for 7 years in our marital house.
I have a witness who was told by my husband why he did his annulments behind my back and he begged her say nothing to me.
Then you're going to have to challenge the annulment in NV. Ideally with an attorney.

Meanwhile, file for divorce in CA. Make him prove to the CA courts that he has a valid annulment.
 
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Camellia7

Junior Member
I believe that what she is saying is that they were married in CA, always lived in CA, and that her husband got a fraudulent annulment in NV. He clearly hid that annulment from her until recently.

She also stated that that the case has been re-opened in NV due to this, and that they have a hearing in a couple of months. Therefore, its not a done deal at this point. The judge in NV should overturn the annulment and dismiss the case for lack of jurisdiction.
Yes, thank you very much for a moral support, you lifted my spirit.
 

Camellia7

Junior Member
Then you're going to have to challenge the annulment in NV. Ideally with an attorney.

Meanwhile, file for divorce in CA. Make him prove to the CA courts that he has a valid annulment.
Thank you very much! I did file the divorce in CA meanwhile. This is what I think about. In his annulment it's written that there are no common assets. We do have common assets and this why he went to Nevada and made annulment there and have concealed it from me 2 years.
 

Camellia7

Junior Member
Good grief.

You? Are not "abused." Not in any way, shape, or form.

All you care about is your CAR. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
All I worry about is to save my baby.I do need my car soo much,because I need to visit a doctor and get food. I am afraid to faint and to have a miscarriage if I take a bus.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
All I worry about is to save my baby.I do need my car soo much,because I need to visit a doctor and get food. I am afraid to faint and to have a miscarriage if I take a bus.
If your pregnancy is so precarious, then you should not be driving.
 

st-kitts

Member
OP, you have not stated your birth place, but you have established fairly clearly that your significant other (husband/ex/lover) has financial and lingual advantages over you. The good news is you are NOT helpless and while you may be dependent, you can develop a plan for self sufficiency. You do need a plan however, and you do need legal advice from a local attorney.

You have indicated your primary concern right now is your car. That is a fine first step, but have you thought about the next step if you get the car? Have you started thinking about a plan on how to obtain food and housing for you and your child? Based on your statements, it sounds as if engaging your boyfriend/husband/ex in a legal battle may destroy your already precarious financial position. Your significant other’s behaviors do fit an abuser’s behavior pattern in terms of his attempts to control you and keep you in a position of helplessness and dependency. Engaging him in a legal battle is likely to increase the level of abusive actions toward you (either emotionally or physically).

You also need to be aware that pregnancy is one of the times a woman is at greatest risk for a physical assault, and you have already been assaulted in the past, which make the likelihood much greater. You are describing a high level of emotional and psychological abuse from your significant other and you would be well advised to develop a plan to safely maintain independence. Although your significant other has made very clear attempts to deprive you of financial resources, you need to think carefully about how he will react if you actually engage him in a legal battle or attempt to leave. Will he be relieved or enraged? Will he accept you obtaining independence or will he fight against that? If you have concerns about how he will react, talk those concerns over with an expert.

The good news, as you have been told, is that many attorneys provide free consultations and there are many community resources that you can draw on for support if you reach out and ask for help. There may be immigrant support and resources in your community. The yellow pages are a good place to start a search. The United Way might be another source. Finally, and most importantly, I highly recommend you call the abuse hotline numbers you have already received. Talking with people that can help you, via the help line numbers that have already been provided, is a very important first step. There are many bilingual operators available.
Be safe. Good luck.
 

frylover

Senior Member
All I worry about is to save my baby.I do need my car soo much,because I need to visit a doctor and get food. I am afraid to faint and to have a miscarriage if I take a bus.
Are you saying that you think a bus ride can cause you to miscarry? Pregnant women ride buses all the time.

Better to be a passenger on a bus than behind the wheel of a car if you faint, isn't it?
 
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Camellia7

Junior Member
Are you saying that you think a bus ride can cause you to miscarry? Pregnant women ride buses all the time.

Better to be a passenger on a bus than behind the wheel of a car if you faint, isn't it?
It's hard for me to walk for long distance (the house is far away from the bus stop)and it's hard to carry heavy bags with food. I am 7 months pregnancy now. I also keep important stuff in the car.So, believe me, it's not easy for a pregnant woman in my situation to use a bus each day for all your tasks, including court's matters with your abuser-husband.
 

mistoffolees

Senior Member
It's hard for me to walk for long distance (the house is far away from the bus stop)and it's hard to carry heavy bags with food. I am 7 months pregnancy now. I also keep important stuff in the car.So, believe me, it's not easy for a pregnant woman in my situation to use a bus each day for all your tasks, including court's matters with your abuser-husband.
Well then you're going to have to find an alternative:

- Get a job
- Buy your own car
- Borrow a car
- See if your local church or woman's shelter offers transportation
- See if family or friends can help
- Ride the bus even though it's inconvenient
- Move to live with family or friends so you don't have to walk so far
- Or any of 10,000 other options.

There just isn't any way to ensure that you're going to get to keep the car in question - and even if you do, the process will probably take more than 2 months.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
A month ago he took my car away from me and I called to police, they told me that we are legally married in California.
The police would NOT be able to tell you that you are legally married in California. They have NO WAY of knowing that.
 
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