It is a criminal act in most states not to support a dependent. There have been well publicized cases of people jailed for non-payment of alimony. I believe that Bali posted one of them here years ago.
Name a single state statute, as you say, that makes the non payment of alimony a criminal act.
Thanks.
People have been jailed for failing to pay alimony, but it was related to a contempt of court finding. It is not, repeat not, a criminal act.
I would have to look for it, however, its well established law that there are no debtors prisons in the US.
That is not what you said. You said that the Constitution specifically called out that there were no debtor's prisons.
Therefore, it would be a Constitutional right to not pay your private debts. I am curious as to the part of the Constitution that has ANYTHING to say about debts from one private (non government) party to another private party.
You said it, now back it up. If you can't tell, I have HAD it with people that throw out global statements that have nothing to do what so ever with fact and then demand that I do their research for them if I want to argue.
You can admit you were wrong or state the Article and/or Amendment that concerns itself with debtor's prison.
Yep, that is what I am saying. AL Capone was jailed for tax fraud (not including significant quantities of income on his tax returns) not for non-payment. I cannot guarantee that never has there been a single person jailed for non-payment, but I am not familiar with any cases. Jailing people has always been for major tax fraud.
Ah, so we are going to play semantic games.
What, exactly, do you think tax fraud or tax evasion is? Failure to pay the appropriate amount of taxes by hiding income from the IRS.
What is the difference between not paying the correct amount and non-payment of taxes?
By the way, according to the US Code....
TITLE 26 > Subtitle F > CHAPTER 75 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 7201
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§ 7201. ATTEMPT TO EVADE OR DEFEAT TAX
Any person who willfully attempts in any manner to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $100,000 ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution.
Seems to state that jail is certainly on the table for the willful act of evading tax. to me. What do you see?
I don't need to, see above and your own statement below
You absolutely need to because I am not going to let you get away with saying "I made an incorrect point above and, therefore, you have to accept it as correct going forward."
I think that you made my point for me in the above paragraph. Someone doesn't get jailed for non-payment of taxes, they get jailed for tax evasion or tax fraud. Someone does not get jailed for non-payment of a debt, they get jailed for a probation violation if paying the debt is part of probation. Someone can be jailed for the non-support of someone that the state considers to be a dependent for the purposes of support. Someone cannot be jailed for not making good on a bad check, they can be jailed for the underlying crime of passing a bad check. If someone produces a fake credit card they don't go to jail for the debt, they go to jail for producing a fake credit card...etc.
Okay, you are one of those people that will never admit to being wrong. I get that.
You are going to say over and over that tax evasion and non-payment of taxes are, somehow, different. All the other points I made.
So, other than comic relief and forcing me to go through US Tax Law on Christmas Eve, what are your statements contributing to the conversation?
By the way, if probation included restitution of the amount of the bad check, a person can absolutely be jailed for failure to make that restitution. To your point, it would be for the original crime, but it comes down to "pay the debt you owe or go to jail and don't pay the debt you owe."
Sounds like we are skating pretty close to that Constitutional protection you mentioned.
In each of those circumstances there is an underlying crime that was committed for which they can be jailed. They cannot be sentenced to jail for the debt itself, but for the crime they committed that caused the debt.
Like, say, tax evasion.
Anyway, you have pulled us away from the OP's question... can a judge put a person in contempt in jail? The answer is yes. Can a judge make the failure to cure a civil debt a criminal act? No. Can a person be imprisoned for failure to pay their taxes? Yes.