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Just Blue

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That is what I am trying to do. If I spoke with him alone and explained things and yes I would be willing to split the cost of her visitations with him I'm almost sure he would be fine with it because he knows it would be better for our daughter...however I am not able to speak to him privately he is only allowed to talk to me or his daughter infront of his girlfriend and she would make him fight with me about it and refuse to let me just because the same as his family would tell him when none of them make any effort to actually be in my daughters life I am the one who is always driving the 2 + hrs to bring her to there house for visits and holidays, everyone surrounding him would turn it into a circus and that is what I do not want.
Why should dad have to pay for any travel when you are the one to create the distance? If Dad moved to Idaho (for example), would you be willing to pay the thousands of $$ to provide 50/50 travel expenses?
 


Lele316

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Why should dad have to pay for any travel when you are the one to create the distance? If Dad moved to Idaho (for example), would you be willing to pay the thousands of $$ to provide 50/50 travel expenses?
Seeing as how the affair was his choice, leaving us was his choice, starting a new family with her was his choice and him not having the time nor money nor being allowed to drive the 2 miles to see his daughter is his choice why should I have to come out pocket for all the expense for him to visit with his daughter when the path my life is on now is because of his choices.
 

SESmama

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Because it isn't about

You
Him
His girlfriend
Their child
Or who did what to whom

It IS about your child's rights. Her right to know you, her dad, her sibling, and any other people she is related to.
 
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Lele316

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Because it isn't about

You
Him
His girlfriend
Their child
Or who did what to whom

It IS about your child's rights. Her right to know you, her dad, her sibling, and any other people she is related to.
Your absolutely right and she does know her Dad or as much as she can when she hasnt seen him in over 8 months hasnt had any contact with him except for one phne call a week, not a birthday card christmas present nothing. as far as his girlfriend and her other children and his family maybe I'm saying it wrong or something but please dont misunderstand I am in no way barring my daughter from them, as far as his family goes (my mother in law and such) I drive my child to go spend time with them and see them and be invloved with them, they make no effort to come see her or to take the initiative to see her and while yes I do this because they are my daughters family I dont not feel it is my responsibility or obligatioin to do that. It is not my job to make sure they maintain a relationship with my daughter it is however my job to make sure I do not impede their efforts, which I never would they are her family. I am also not keeping her father from her he is the one who has not made one iota of an effort to see his child or anything. He knows exactly where we are and knows he can see her but he just doesnt.
So if he did drive to where we live which is about 2 hrs from where he lives now your saying I should be paying for his gas and everything??
 

ecmst12

Senior Member
the path my life is on now is because of his choices.
This is NOT even a little bit true, and until you can get rid of those kinds of destructive thoughts, you are going to have a very hard time with your life.

Florida has jurisdiction over the child and will continue to have it until she has been a resident of another state for 6 months. It has nothing to do with extradition.
 

Lele316

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This is NOT even a little bit true, and until you can get rid of those kinds of destructive thoughts, you are going to have a very hard time with your life.

Florida has jurisdiction over the child and will continue to have it until she has been a resident of another state for 6 months. It has nothing to do with extradition.
It is absolutely true because I would of still been with him working and raising our child and his brother wouldnt of kicked me out of my apt. forcing me back home with my parents and change directions in my life. I'm not meaning it as a destructive thought it is just how it is.

As far as Florida having Jurisdiction over my child they do not as stated in my original post I live in Pennsylvania and wished to move to Florida not the other way around.
 

ecmst12

Senior Member
Ok, PA has jurisdiction then. So you would have to return the child to the state of jurisdiction.

You still have control over YOUR choices.
 

Lele316

Member
Ok, PA has jurisdiction then. So you would have to return the child to the state of jurisdiction.

You still have control over YOUR choices.
Right I never said he made my choices I said he made his choices which caused me to have to change mine that is all
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
Seeing as how the affair was his choice, leaving us was his choice, starting a new family with her was his choice and him not having the time nor money nor being allowed to drive the 2 miles to see his daughter is his choice why should I have to come out pocket for all the expense for him to visit with his daughter when the path my life is on now is because of his choices.
You need to stop making the relationship with Dad and child about YOUR hurt feelings. I do understand how you feel...but you are LEGALLY wrong to behave this way.
 

Lele316

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You need to stop making the relationship with Dad and child about YOUR hurt feelings. I do understand how you feel...but you are LEGALLY wrong to behave this way.
How am I making my daughters relationship with her father about my hurt feelings?? The only relationship he has with her is a 10 min phone call about every week by his own choosing. I would never choose for that to be her only relationship with him regardless of anything that happened between him and I, it had nothing to do with her until he removed himself and only made the pone calls. In truth I dont give a damn who he is with what he is doing or what other kids he may or may not have my only concern is my daughter. I came on here to try to find some help with the legalities of moving and questions I have, yet most of the responses are making it seem as if I am trying to keep my daughter away from him because he left us 2 yrs ago and that is not the case as I have stated before. A couple have implied I'm wrong to do this or I'm only thinking of myself I should pay him to see his child, yet not one person asked for the reasons for the move to florida.So how could you be judging me on something you dont know all the facts too? Maybe I should of just put every detail in the OP but didnt want to make it so long no one would vcare to read it to answer figured if anyone had any input or knowledge that needed further details they would ask. Sorry I was mistaken.
 

Just Blue

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How am I making my daughters relationship with her father about my hurt feelings?? The only relationship he has with her is a 10 min phone call about every week by his own choosing. I would never choose for that to be her only relationship with him regardless of anything that happened between him and I, it had nothing to do with her until he removed himself and only made the pone calls. In truth I dont give a damn who he is with what he is doing or what other kids he may or may not have my only concern is my daughter. I came on here to try to find some help with the legalities of moving and questions I have, yet most of the responses are making it seem as if I am trying to keep my daughter away from him because he left us 2 yrs ago and that is not the case as I have stated before. A couple have implied I'm wrong to do this or I'm only thinking of myself I should pay him to see his child, yet not one person asked for the reasons for the move to florida.So how could you be judging me on something you dont know all the facts too? Maybe I should of just put every detail in the OP but didnt want to make it so long no one would vcare to read it to answer figured if anyone had any input or knowledge that needed further details they would ask. Sorry I was mistaken.
Sigh...

I only responded to what YOU chose to post. And, per said posts, you are angry,. I get your POV. But to make the child suffer, without her father by moving her hundreds of miles from her father, thus making any hope of him having a real relationship with her, is not rational.
 

Lele316

Member
Sigh...

I only responded to what YOU chose to post. And, per said posts, you are angry,. I get your POV. But to make the child suffer, without her father by moving her hundreds of miles from her father, thus making any hope of him having a real relationship with her, is not rational.
So you think there is that big of a difference between a 2 hr drive and a 2 hr plane ride? I do not make nor would I make her suffer without her father he has not seen her nor wants to see her for over 8 months and he has no plans on seeing her. I said it before and I will say it again that is his choice not mine he can see her whenever he wants he chooses not to. And yes I'm angry not at what happened between us but because I know my daughter loves her father and yet he doesnt give a crap about her or anything. So pretty much what your telling me is I shouldnt move or anything on the off chance one day when he decides or she is old enough to go on her own that she might have a relationship with him...am I understanding you correctly?
 

mistoffolees

Senior Member
So you think there is that big of a difference between a 2 hr drive and a 2 hr plane ride?
I do.

First, a 2 hr plane ride is going to take you more like 5 hours with checkin and security, and parking, and car rental and so on.

Second, at some point, the kids will be flying on their own, but they obviously would be with a parent if driving.
 
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