Old and valuable items found on leased property

[Searchertwin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-3e0EkvIEM

That was PERFECT!

My laugh for the today. Good for the blood pressure.

 

[Searchertwin]

The true owner might not be the landlord.

I'll state again and you just keep adding to that pot:

Uh oh, seems like someone has done the same thing the op is trying to do now.

You are justifying the situation to meet your wrongdoing.

You don't have to justify here at this forum, but you will in the future to the One that sits on a throne.

 

[ki23]

I'll state again and you just keep adding to that pot:

Uh oh, seems like someone has done the same thing the op is trying to do now.

You are justifying the situation to meet your wrongdoing.

You don't have to justify here at this forum, but you will in the future to the One that sits on a throne.

I thought this was a legal forum. I hope that the OP did not need to sell his windfall to buy medicine to take care of his sick child. As you say, Take care.

 

[tranquility]

Well, I think I have provided enough references to where the OP (Who is long gone as the homework assignment has been turned in.) or anyone with similar issues can gain guidance. Apparently, my sole job would be stomping out errors if I continue. Suffice it to be said, I disagree with many posts in this thread. Besides, without the facts, there is no issue. The law has to do with deciding issues. Writing briefs is for consideration of all the issues and is beyond the scope of the forum.

To end with the complexity of how these issues intertwine with our daily lives, consider a finder who rents a house that has a school bus stop out front. Say he finds an empty bottle (with CRV) on the front lawn as the kids are playing football out in the street while waiting for the bus. He picks up the bottle and yells to the kids, "Is this anyone's?" and the kids continue the game. The finder then tosses the bottle in the trash, takes it back for refund, glues it to his wall because it's pretty.

The legal discussion of this is the same, except for the *criminal* question of a "reasonable" search for the owner, if we change "empty bottle" for "lunch pail" (with nutritious lunch inside),"twenty dollar bill" (Well, maybe not this. See Treasure Trove. While usually having to do with gold and silver, it has been expanded.), "Ipad" or "June 1938 Action Comics #1".

In each case, if the true owner objects to the finder/possessor of property where found (depending on the facts) actions after taking actions to exert control over it, his remedy (modernly) is to sue for conversion or trespass to chattel.

 

[quincy]

Well, I think I have provided enough references to where the OP (Who is long gone as the homework assignment has been turned in.) or anyone with similar issues can gain guidance. Apparently, my sole job would be stomping out errors if I continue.

You keep believing it, tranq.

 

[tranquility]

You keep believing it, tranq.

For a listing of the minority of the states with a statutory scheme alluded to by:

Statutes now replace some of the previous uncertainty as to what to do with found property and there is less uncertainty as to the ownership of found property.

http://www.animallaw.info/articles/ovuslostdogpropertystatutes.htm

Quincy's criminal statute applies edit:
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Police-Pa-couple-sold-neighbor-s-lost-puppy-3877073.php

 

[quincy]

The Michigan State University animal law site is one I have used for reference frequently in the past, but I am admittedly surprised to see their listing of the property laws across the U.S. Nice.

The lost/found/not-returned puppy story out of Pennsylvania nicely provides support for the Pennsylvania statute posted earlier, too. Thanks for doing the research I was too lazy to do myself.

Your research efforts are appreciated, tranquility (even when some of your "let's pretend" scenarios may not be ).



A note to ki23: Your contributions to this thread were important ones. And your Post #60 is exactly right. Don't let the back and forth of this thread discourage you from contributing in the future.

 

[tranquility]

The puppy story wasn't "research" it was just wasting time on fark and seeing the tease:

Today's candidates for "Worst People in the World" are this Pennsylvania couple that sold their neighbors puppy instead of returning it

Seemed like it would fit here.

I suspect Ki23 will be back. He's got a law book and everything.

On a side note, did you read any of the links from the site? I just skimmed and about 1/2 gave rights to the finder after jumping through hoops and a few took away all rights and just gave duties to those who take control of the property. The others were not so clear on a quick look.

 

[BL]

The puppy story wasn't "research" it was just wasting time on fark and seeing the tease:



Seemed like it would fit here.

I suspect Ki23 will be back. He's got a law book and everything.

On a side note, did you read any of the links from the site? I just skimmed and about 1/2 gave rights to the finder after jumping through hoops and a few took away all rights and just gave duties to those who take control of the property. The others were not so clear on a quick look.

Seems my State is one to turn over to the police ,then in the end the finder has to claim it within a time frame if the owner or representative does not, or lose it.

 

[tranquility]

Holy moley, it has hit drudge.
Www.drudgereport.com

With the probable cause affidavit at:
Www.thesmokinggun.com/file/neighbors-dog-sold