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chad12

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (Florida)

My question pertains to debt that I agreed and am ordered by the court to continue paying. The debt is for furniture that was purchased by my ex-wife on her credit card. I have been making the payments on that card every month since the divorce. The Final Judgment states that I will continue to do so and "hold the wife harmless therefrom", but the judgment also states, "Each party shall execute and deliver to the other party any documents that may be reasonably required to accomplish the intentions as contained herein and shall do all other necessary things to this end."

Now, I have been paying this bill for 2 1/2 years since the divorce and she has sent me 3-4 bills at most. When she did send me the bills, she requested that I send her a confirmation that I received the bill, which I refused to do because it is not necessary for me to do that, I only need to continue making the payments. She has not sent me a bill in over 9 months now and I feel that she is not fulfilling what the court has ordered her to do.

Is this a legal issue where I could refuse to make the payments on the bill, along with any late fees because she is not doing what she is legally obligated to do? I have been paying this debt without even knowing what the balance is. For all I know she could have made additional purchases and I'm paying for new furniture that she bought.

Any insight on this issue would be greatly appreciated.
 


Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
No, you're can't refuse to pay the bill.

But, seriously, you couldn't shoot her an email saying "got the bill, thanks"? :rolleyes:
 

chad12

Junior Member
No, you're can't refuse to pay the bill.

But, seriously, you couldn't shoot her an email saying "got the bill, thanks"? :rolleyes:
I could, but in what situation does a person NOT get an email that is sent. If she gets a confirmation that it was sent, and sees that the payment is being made, why should I have to confirm that to her?

But what about the fact that she hasn't sent me the bills as she is required to do? Me not responding to her emails definitely does not justify her not sending them to me. She claims that I changed the mailing address but I don't even have access to the account. There isn't any legal ramifications for her not doing that?
 

sandyclaus

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (Florida)

My question pertains to debt that I agreed and am ordered by the court to continue paying. The debt is for furniture that was purchased by my ex-wife on her credit card. I have been making the payments on that card every month since the divorce. The Final Judgment states that I will continue to do so and "hold the wife harmless therefrom", but the judgment also states, "Each party shall execute and deliver to the other party any documents that may be reasonably required to accomplish the intentions as contained herein and shall do all other necessary things to this end."

Now, I have been paying this bill for 2 1/2 years since the divorce and she has sent me 3-4 bills at most. When she did send me the bills, she requested that I send her a confirmation that I received the bill, which I refused to do because it is not necessary for me to do that, I only need to continue making the payments. She has not sent me a bill in over 9 months now and I feel that she is not fulfilling what the court has ordered her to do.

Is this a legal issue where I could refuse to make the payments on the bill, along with any late fees because she is not doing what she is legally obligated to do? I have been paying this debt without even knowing what the balance is. For all I know she could have made additional purchases and I'm paying for new furniture that she bought.

Any insight on this issue would be greatly appreciated.
So, you can't be bothered to confirm receipt of the few bills she has sent you, but you still expect HER to send them to you with no assurance you received them? Sounds like you need to pick your battles.

Surely the court order specified the balance that you were to pay on the credit card for the furniture. If you have receipts showing you've paid that, or paid somewhere around that amount, then it's a fair assumption that she isn't trying to make you pay for any additional credit card purchases she has made. It ain't rocket science.

Pay off the balance amount you were told to pay and stop making excuses.
 

chad12

Junior Member
So, you can't be bothered to confirm receipt of the few bills she has sent you, but you still expect HER to send them to you with no assurance you received them? Sounds like you need to pick your battles.

Surely the court order specified the balance that you were to pay on the credit card for the furniture. If you have receipts showing you've paid that, or paid somewhere around that amount, then it's a fair assumption that she isn't trying to make you pay for any additional credit card purchases she has made. It ain't rocket science.

Pay off the balance amount you were told to pay and stop making excuses.
Ok, so let me just ASSUME that someone is doing the right thing, good idea. I'll just continue to make a payment on a credit card where I don't receive the bills and have no clue what the balance is, really intelligent....

The court also specifies that "Each party shall execute and deliver to the other party any documents that may be reasonably required to accomplish this task...." aka A BILL!!! Did you not read what I originally said? Ok, I will admit that it was douchey of me to not confirm receipt of the emails but why is that the main issue here? SHE IS NOT SENDING ME ANY BILLS, I am paying an unknown credit card balance!!

And the court did not specify what the specific balance was remaining on the card, the only idea I have of what the balance is is from a bill she sent me last April.

I am not making excuses to not pay it, I agreed to pay it. I would just like to receive a bill so I can know exactly what I am paying for, is that too much to ask?
 

chad12

Junior Member
Last bill - payments made + estimated interest = remaining balance.
Thank you for the math lesson, wtf? Why should I be assuming what the remaining balance is when I should have bills being sent to me every month so I KNOW what the balance is.
 

single317dad

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (Florida)

My question pertains to debt that I agreed and am ordered by the court to continue paying. The debt is for furniture that was purchased by my ex-wife on her credit card. I have been making the payments on that card every month since the divorce. The Final Judgment states that I will continue to do so and "hold the wife harmless therefrom", but the judgment also states, "Each party shall execute and deliver to the other party any documents that may be reasonably required to accomplish the intentions as contained herein and shall do all other necessary things to this end."

Now, I have been paying this bill for 2 1/2 years since the divorce and she has sent me 3-4 bills at most. When she did send me the bills, she requested that I send her a confirmation that I received the bill, which I refused to do because it is not necessary for me to do that, I only need to continue making the payments. She has not sent me a bill in over 9 months now and I feel that she is not fulfilling what the court has ordered her to do.

Is this a legal issue where I could refuse to make the payments on the bill, along with any late fees because she is not doing what she is legally obligated to do? I have been paying this debt without even knowing what the balance is. For all I know she could have made additional purchases and I'm paying for new furniture that she bought.

Any insight on this issue would be greatly appreciated.
Under no circumstances should you violate the court order. Continue to pay your obligation. Take the ex back to court if you feel it absolutely necessary.

One person's violation does not excuse another's. Look at it this way: If I steal from you, that does not mean you can then steal from me. We'll both be penalized for our transgressions. Make sense?
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Ok, so let me just ASSUME that someone is doing the right thing, good idea. I'll just continue to make a payment on a credit card where I don't receive the bills and have no clue what the balance is, really intelligent....

The court also specifies that "Each party shall execute and deliver to the other party any documents that may be reasonably required to accomplish this task...." aka A BILL!!! Did you not read what I originally said? Ok, I will admit that it was douchey of me to not confirm receipt of the emails but why is that the main issue here? SHE IS NOT SENDING ME ANY BILLS, I am paying an unknown credit card balance!!

And the court did not specify what the specific balance was remaining on the card, the only idea I have of what the balance is is from a bill she sent me last April.

I am not making excuses to not pay it, I agreed to pay it. I would just like to receive a bill so I can know exactly what I am paying for, is that too much to ask?
Well, you could simply ask her to please start sending the bills again, and that you will cheerfully acknowledge the receipt of the bills from now on.
 

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