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Wife's ex-husband says we will be arrested by Homeland Security when arrive to the US

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Proserpina

Senior Member
It pertains to substance of the article regarding submission of false information to the gov't, not specifically the fiance visa. Are you a bit off today?

Nope. But I can guarantee you I know what I'm talking about when it comes to this.

:cool:

To reiterate: They're not going to be arrested upon entering the US. And the child is not going to be removed from their custody.
 


Becoming

Junior Member
On top of that, you can tell from the OP's English that he is not foreign...even if he grew up in Germany and spoke perfect English it would be British English not American English...AND if OP's wife was originally from Germany she was obviously married to another American first, and therefore didn't come to the US as OP's fiancée. Heck if the OP was in the US long enough to have perfect American English he certainly didn't come to the US as his wife's fiancé. Heck, they could easily both be American citizens for all we know.
I'm American...my wife is the immigrant.
 
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LdiJ

Senior Member
I'm American...my wife is the immigrant.
Seriously, just disregard everything that OHRoadWarrior said. He absolutely does not know what he is talking about...which is not at all uncommon for him.

Homeland Security or the National Guard won't care squat about the situation. Heck, no government entity is going to care squat about the situation unless the ex decides to take it to court to challenge your paternity. If that happens the end result will be that you will be declared the father, since you already know that you are, and that will be the end of it.

What you are dealing with here is an extremely ticked off ex who wants to torment his ex wife. If they don't have any other children together then your best bet is to cut off all methods where he can contact your wife.
 

OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
You can listen to these two, who have provided no substantiation to back up their claims, or mine, which I supported with references to government policy after outlining the fraud you both committed. She can be charged Federally and in CA. You at least in CA. Will you? Roll the dice. She can potentially spend 10 years in Federal prison, if you refer to the link I provided. I personally don't care what you do, believe or get charged with.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
You can listen to these two, who have provided no substantiation to back up their claims, or mine, which I supported with references to government policy after outlining the fraud you both committed. She can be charged Federally and in CA. You at least in CA. Will you? Roll the dice. She can potentially spend 10 years in Federal prison, if you refer to the link I provided. I personally don't care what you do, believe or get charged with.

"These two"?

Oh my - I laughed so hard I almost had to bill you for the paper towels needed to clean the keyboard!

I suppose you're going to apologize profusely to LdiJ, myself AND the OP when OP comes back to tell us the ex was full of fecal matter?

Just let me know how long we have to wait. I've got stuff to do in the meantime.

:cool:
 

Becoming

Junior Member
You can listen to these two, who have provided no substantiation to back up their claims, or mine, which I supported with references to government policy after outlining the fraud you both committed. She can be charged Federally and in CA. You at least in CA. Will you? Roll the dice. She can potentially spend 10 years in Federal prison, if you refer to the link I provided. I personally don't care what you do, believe or get charged with.
I did look there, and it's talking about passport, visa fraud, and lying on an immigration application, which have nothing to do with my situation.
 
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OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
I did look there, and it's talking about passport, visa fraud, and lying on an immigration application, which have nothing to do with my situation.
He says we committed fraud on my son's birth certificate, which we technically did, I guess. They were in the process of a divorce, I put my name on the birth certificate because I'm the biological father.
So you fraudulently submitted a state gov't document and then submitted it to the Federal gov't, holding yourselves out to be the parents to fraudulently obtain a passport. You are now planning on holding the same document out as being truthful and she is going to file the paperwork with her visa, if she did not already need to when obtaining authority to remove the child. OK, sure, you did not break any laws.:cool::rolleyes:
 

Becoming

Junior Member
I am extremely confused right now. I truly don't know what you're talking about. I don't think we're talking about that same thing here
 
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TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
So you fraudulently submitted a state gov't document and then submitted it to the Federal gov't, holding yourselves out to be the parents to fraudulently obtain a passport. You are now planning on holding the same document out as being truthful and she is going to file the paperwork with her visa, if she did not already need to when obtaining authority to remove the child. OK, sure, you did not break any laws.:cool::rolleyes:
The child wouldn't be part of the visa process - child should be an American citizen.

Authority from WHOM was needed to take child to Germany?
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
No one will be arrested upon entry without an arrest warrant. The ex-husband might have complained, might have even made a report or two to ICE or others, but unless a warrant has been issued, no arrest is going to occur.

If the ex wants to claim paternity, he can seek a court order. If he merely wants to get his ex-wife into trouble, that might be problematic since mom is still mom and she is alleging that the boyfriend/fiance is the child's bio-father, so the intent required for a fraud/forgery case might be difficult even if technically correct.

I cannot recall from my own childrens' births whether we had to fill this out or sign anything, but I can't imagine anyone making a huge issue about this under the circumstances. And if the ex-husband alleges to have spoken to Homeland Security and the National Guard about this, then he is full of hooey as they wouldn't address these matters at all.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
I am extremely confused right now. I truly don't know what you're talking about. I don't think we're talking about that same thing here
Again, completely ignore him, he doesn't have the slightest clue what he is talking about.
 

OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
For the uninformed like LDiJ, the term used to describe a birth certificate with falsified information and submitted to the Federal gov't is "feeder document". Even if you are both US citizens, you submitted a falsified document to obtain the child's passport. Notice she keeps talking yet is not smart enough to dispute the fraud information I provided. If OP was smart enough to know what I am talking about, they would not have perpetuated the fraud in the first place.:cool:
 
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