Partying Son

[Ohiogal]

Wow! I was asking for help, not a crappy uneducated opinion. You must have kids in jail serving time for your anger to lash out at a total stranger without knowing all the facts. Or you might be a fund raising policeman yourself. Try some community service and anger management before YOU hurt someone with your mouth.

Nope. I don't raise kids who break the law. I don't raise kids that are "partying" or driving around with their friends with a cooler full of alcohol. Oh and if they did, they would pay the consequences of their stupidity. If he was caught this time, the odds are he was not caught other times and that this is NOT his first rodeo. In other words, your partying son most likely has partied before, drank before, and drove after drinking. Why don't you try to educate yourself about your child RATHER than making excuses for him. Or maybe you don't care that much and will be back here whining that your son got drunk from "partying" and killed someone or got in a fist fight or is otherwise in jail due to his behavior and it ain't fair.

You are the one who said your son is partying. Not I. So why don't you grow up. And if my words hurt? Sometimes the truth hurts. No anger involved.

 

[jj793]

Guess you don't understand what the word "partying" means either. Not my problem.

I've never attended a party that was actually in a car.

So partying must lead to death.
And partying must lead to driving drunk.


....what sort of "partying" have you been involved in?

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

I have. We used to call it Friday or Saturday night, when we had nowhere specific we were going.

I've never attended a party that was actually in a car.

So partying must lead to death.
And partying must lead to driving drunk.


....what sort of "partying" have you been involved in?

 

[CdwJava]

I'm quite concerned about the world if sitting sober in the passenger seat of a car is "gateway behavior" to drunk driving.

No, but a group of under-21ers in a car, with alcohol, on their way to meet with their friends is a party in the making. And, since they are underage, a crime ... and, along with that party comes the added risk of impaired driving and the associated injury and/or death. There's a reason that 16-19 year-olds are statistically five times more likely than other age bands to be involved in a serious injury or fatal collision - and it's not because of their common sense, mature reasoning, and sensible decision-making.

Oh, and this comes from the father/guardian of four teenage boys - two of which HAVE been caught drinking at parties by the po-po (but not driving, thank God).

 

[jj793]

I have. We used to call it Friday or Saturday night, when we had nowhere specific we were going.

Aw that's sad. I guess we could always find somewhere to go.

No, but a group of under-21ers in a car, with alcohol, on their way to meet with their friends is a party in the making. And, since they are underage, a crime ... and, along with that party comes the added risk of impaired driving and the associated injury and/or death. There's a reason that 16-19 year-olds are statistically five times more likely than other age bands to be involved in a serious injury or fatal collision - and it's not because of their common sense, mature reasoning, and sensible decision-making.

Oh, and this comes from the father/guardian of four teenage boys - two of which HAVE been caught drinking at parties by the po-po (but not driving, thank God).

Underage drinking does not necessarily lead to drunk driving. It's not a given. It's really a case by case basis. 21 is a ridiculous drinking age anyway. Sign this lease, go shoot those bad guys, here's the keys to your new car, don't you dare drink a beer. You're not old/responsible enough. Oh ok, that makes sense.

 

[CdwJava]

Underage drinking does not necessarily lead to drunk driving. It's not a given.

Never said it did. But, when you combine alcohol with the lack of common sense, feeling of immortality, and general lack of brain processing power of the typical teenager, it's a recipe for disaster. Statistically, this group of people are horrendous drivers sober - adding even a little alcohol is an even greater disaster.

It's really a case by case basis. 21 is a ridiculous drinking age anyway.

I agree - it should probably be older.

Sign this lease, go shoot those bad guys, here's the keys to your new car, don't you dare drink a beer. You're not old/responsible enough. Oh ok, that makes sense.

That's an old argument. Feel free to speak to your Senator or Congressman about that.

 

[jj793]

Never said it did. But, when you combine alcohol with the lack of common sense, feeling of immortality, and general lack of brain processing power of the typical teenager, it's a recipe for disaster. Statistically, this group of people are horrendous drivers sober - adding even a little alcohol is an even greater disaster.

Again. Individual basis. There are many young people who do just fine at not touching car keys when they drink.

I agree - it should probably be older.

Don't make me start....the US has a really immature attitude to alcohol.

We probably shouldn't be arguing on someone else's thread.
I apologize to halfbreedracing.

 

[CdwJava]

Again. Individual basis. There are many young people who do just fine at not touching car keys when they drink.

Many, sure ... when you're talking aggregate numbers. But, statistically, they're not so capable of mature good decision making. Sorry.

Don't make me start....the US has a really immature attitude to alcohol.

Ah, yes, the European comparison ... though, people who make that comparison fail to take into account the distinct social differences between the cultures and why a more "liberal" approach (i.e. younger legal drinking age) would likely be a disaster here when it isn't quite so bad in most of Europe ... though, stats on alcoholism in much of Europe are quite high, and penalties for DUI related offenses tend to be more severe in many nations.

 

[jj793]

Internet etiquette.
If you want to continue, feel free to move it to my existing thread.

 

[CurrentlyUndone]

Interestingly, the rate of alcohol-related cirrhosis in certain European countries is significantly higher than in the US.

(This is very easy to verify if you have any doubts)

/end hijack.