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In Illinois, a petition to establish a delayed record of birth

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RonB

Junior Member
In Illinois, in a petition to establish a delayed record of birth for a minor (16yrs) is the petitioner the parent or the child?
Thanks
 


Ohiogal

Queen Bee
In Illinois, in a petition to establish a delayed record of birth for a minor (16yrs) is the petitioner the parent or the child?
Thanks
Details would help. Why wasn't the child's birth established 16 years ago? Was the child born in Illinois?
 

RonB

Junior Member
Details

Child was born at home in Illinois, we shortly moved out of state and we just never got around to registering. because we home school and tend towards natural doctors we didn't need a birth certificate so now we don't have the necessary documents to satisfy the state with birth date and location. so we have to petition the county court of birth.
the letter from IDPH does state that if we live in another state we could go to any court of competent jurisdiction of that state. but the Vital Records office will not accept Texas Courts.
 

Silverplum

Senior Member
Child was born at home in Illinois, we shortly moved out of state and we just never got around to registering. because we home school and tend towards natural doctors we didn't need a birth certificate so now we don't have the necessary documents to satisfy the state with birth date and location. so we have to petition the county court of birth.
the letter from IDPH does state that if we live in another state we could go to any court of competent jurisdiction of that state. but the Vital Records office will not accept Texas Courts.
What's a "natural" doctor?
 

TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
Child was born at home in Illinois, we shortly moved out of state and we just never got around to registering. because we home school and tend towards natural doctors we didn't need a birth certificate so now we don't have the necessary documents to satisfy the state with birth date and location. so we have to petition the county court of birth.
the letter from IDPH does state that if we live in another state we could go to any court of competent jurisdiction of that state. but the Vital Records office will not accept Texas Courts.
So, you've got a 16yo without a SSN? How do you file your federal income taxes without a SSN for that child? :cool:
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
To be clear, it IS possible for one to get a SSN without a birth certificate. I'm just wondering what route the OP took...
 

single317dad

Senior Member
RonB, I'm not entirely clear on what stage you're at in the process of obtaining a birth certificate for your child.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/041005350K14.htm

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/041005350K14.htm

410 ILCS 535/14 prescribes the method for obtaining that certificate.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/041005350K15.htm

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/041005350K15.htm

410 ILCS 535/15 takes effect when the state office refuses your application for such record; however, it seems to me that you're still in the initial phase of your attempt to gain a birth certificate but are referring to Chapter 15 procedures. To clear things up, have you already applied for a Delayed Record of Birth from the IL Registrar of Vital Records, and been refused such record?

For the record, the parent is the "petitioner" in these matters when the record sought is for a minor:

(c) When the birth occurred more than 7 years prior to the application for registration, the certificate of birth shall be prepared on a form entitled "Delayed Record of Birth". The information provided on such registration form shall be subscribed and sworn to by the person whose birth is to be registered before an official authorized to administer oaths. When such person is not of legal age or is otherwise not competent to swear to this information, it shall be subscribed and sworn to by a parent, legal guardian, or other legally designated representative of this person.
 

RonB

Junior Member
Thank you Single317dad,
to clear things up... yes we have already applied and been refused a delayed record of birth. they (Vital Records) provided a petition form VR 141C to take to the courts, it just reads as if the child is the petitioner in some parts.

the documents that satisfied the SSA were not accepted by Vital Records.
 

single317dad

Senior Member
Thank you Single317dad,
to clear things up... yes we have already applied and been refused a delayed record of birth. they (Vital Records) provided a petition form VR 141C to take to the courts, it just reads as if the child is the petitioner in some parts.

the documents that satisfied the SSA were not accepted by Vital Records.
It's probably a single standard form used for children, adults, and even the deceased, so some parts may be confusing or not applicable to you personally. If you were to have an attorney draft the petition, it would be more clearly worded.
 

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