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What is the name of your state? What is the name of your state? California.
So.. I have been caught not stopping all the way. I was lost in Culver City, and made a wrong turn, upon the pressure of ongoing traffic I decided to loop back around the block asap instead of forcibly halting traffic, I tap the breaks and turn right. Then the dreaded FLASH hits me. Almost a week later I get the letter sent to me, " Notice of violation" and "Notice to appear". There's an address, but no bail amount is seen anywhere.
Here's the catch, they accuse my brother instead of me! We look alike, and he has a solid alibi to prove that he was not the one driving and he can use the attached paper to disprove the claim and identfy the driver as me, the real perpetrator.
I know that it sounds really evil for me to do this, but I want to see if I could use this error to my advantage to save a couple hundred dollars.
My current plan is that I'm going to use cvc 40518. It still hasn't been 15 days since the infraction but until then, I am going to wait for the 15 days to pass and then have my brother submit the true identity claim, leading to me trying to dismiss it. Will it work? Can they amend all of that information and shift it to me?( And yes I will treat my brother for an expensive dinner if it works)

(For reference: "Whenever a written notice to appear has been issued by a peace officer or by a qualified employee of a law enforcement agency on a form approved by the Judicial Council for an alleged violation of Section 22451, or, based on an alleged violation of Section 21453, 21455, or 22101 recorded by an automated traffic enforcement system pursuant to Section 21455.5 or 22451, and delivered by mail within 15 days of the alleged violation to the current address of the registered owner of the vehicle on file with the department, with a certificate of mailing obtained as evidence of service, an exact and legible duplicate copy of the notice when filed with the magistrate shall constitute a complaint to which the defendant may enter a plea." The bold wording keeps me awake at night because it is correct and they technically fufilled that part.)
 


CdwJava

Senior Member
So, which of you is named on the citation and has to appear in court? YOU? Or, your brother?

If it is your brother, then HE can appear in court and try and argue that it was not him. Though, the court may ask him who was in the image.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
Couldn't he use TWD and just say that it isn't him?
He could try. Though, the odds of prevailing might be slim ... especially since he appears to admit it WAS him ... and that HE got the ticket. So, until we can get a clarification of the issue, I'd hate to recommend he commit perjury.
 
Though, the odds of prevailing might be slim ... especially since he appears to admit it WAS him ... and that HE got the ticket. So, until we can get a clarification of the issue, I'd hate to recommend he commit perjury.
No, I was the one who committed the violation, he was just the one who was identified and issued.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
No, I was the one who committed the violation, he was just the one who was identified and issued.
Then HE needs to challenge the cite through the TBWD and/or trial. You are not a party to the case unless you want to admit that you were driving, or, he is compelled in court to identify you.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
Okay ... now I am confused.

WHO told you it's pinned on your brother? Didn't you say that YOU received the ticket in the mail?

Okay, WHOSE NAME is listed on the citation? The person's name on the citation is the person who has to defend the matter in court.

And how do you think 40518 applies to you? If your brother is the defendant named on the citation (the notice to appear in court) then HE has to respond on or before the court date. Now, if he wants to punt and save himself some time and effort - and maybe a pricy fine, he'll simply dime you off as the driver.
 
WHO told you it's pinned on your brother? Didn't you say that YOU received the ticket in the mail?

Okay, WHOSE NAME is listed on the citation? The person's name on the citation is the person who has to defend the matter in court.
The ticket is mailed and pinned to my brother. I committed the red light run, the camera has a picture of me, but the system identified my brother. Sorry for the miscommunication.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
Then it is your brother's issue unless you become identified as the suspect.

Is your brother willing to take the hit to his license and wallet on your behalf?
 
And how do you think 40518 applies to you? If your brother is the defendant named on the citation (the notice to appear in court) then HE has to respond on or before the court date. Now, if he wants to punt and save himself some time and effort - and maybe a pricy fine, he'll simply dime you off as the driver.
What I'm saying is, since they have the wrong person, I would only have to wait until the 15 days are over to have the TWD sent by my brother. When that occurs he will identify it to me, leading to me trying to use 40518.
 

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