Visitation, Coronavirus

[stealth2]

There are well over 45K deaths (doubled in the last week) from C-19....and over 827k cases. I would hardly call that a "handful".

But yes, "handful" of kids. But honestly? Who here would risk their kid's life vs their parent's? Honest question.

 

[Just Blue]

But yes, "handful" of kids. But honestly? Who here would risk their kid's life vs their parent's? Honest question.

I would risk neither.

Seriously, stay in. Stop the spread. It's a no-brainer.

 

[quincy]

I would risk neither.

Seriously, stay in. Stop the spread. It's a no-brainer.

I actually think it requires a brain. It is the no-brainers who aren’t taking the virus seriously.

 

[Just Blue]

I actually think it requires a brain. It is the no-brainers who aren’t taking the virus seriously.

This is true.

 

[LdiJ]

But yes, "handful" of kids. But honestly? Who here would risk their kid's life vs their parent's? Honest question.

I wouldn't risk either, but I have to admit since my mother is almost guaranteed to be someone who would die from the coronavirus, I would have to give her health priority.

I was just released from the hospital myself today. I was admitted with fluid on my lungs. They were able to resolve it quickly and test me for they coronavirus (I tested negative) so I was out in just over 48 hours. I have to admit that I was scared to death to go there, which the doctor believes added panic attack on top of the fluid in my lungs, but I was impressed at how isolated they kept me from anybody else. The doctors and nurses practically wore hazmat suits they were so covered up and they were the only ones who entered my room. Nobody else did, not to deliver food or anything, the nurses did it all.

 

[not2cleverRed]

"No one knows" is not a strong legal argument.

What is a strong legal argument is that it is in the "best interest of the children" to foster healthy bonds with both parents, and promote effective (nonconfrontational) co-parenting.

When one focusses on the "best interest of the children" from that definition, one can then arrive at viable legal options - rather than browbeat OP for a statement another poster made. The OP realizes that the primary risk is grandma, who OP lives with, and wonders if the only option is to forgo parenting time. The answer to that is yes, altering parenting time to minimize illness is a reasonable option, and increasing virtual parenting time could help.

OP also expressed concern that the mom is trying to provoke a confrontation in order to diminish OP's allegations of spousal abuse. Again, I suggested that there are legal ways of addressing that.

Tell me, what legal options have you suggested? Hint: you haven't.

 

[stealth2]

It would also be good to know what summer parenting time is, and when that's due to start. Foregoing a month/two of eow time to start summer time earlier might also be an option...

 

[t74]

There are a number of alternatives if the parents will work together!

 

[BuyLowSellHigh]

There are well over 45K deaths (doubled in the last week) from C-19....and over 827k cases. I would hardly call that a "handful".

The issue was the safety of the children. There have not been 45k thousand deaths of children.

 

[BuyLowSellHigh]

What is a strong legal argument is that it is in the "best interest of the children" to foster healthy bonds with both parents, and promote effective (nonconfrontational) co-parenting.

When one focusses on the "best interest of the children" from that definition, one can then arrive at viable legal options - rather than browbeat OP for a statement another poster made. The OP realizes that the primary risk is grandma, who OP lives with, and wonders if the only option is to forgo parenting time. The answer to that is yes, altering parenting time to minimize illness is a reasonable option, and increasing virtual parenting time could help.

OP also expressed concern that the mom is trying to provoke a confrontation in order to diminish OP's allegations of spousal abuse. Again, I suggested that there are legal ways of addressing that.

Tell me, what legal options have you suggested? Hint: you haven't.

See above legal options: "If mother is violating the law then contact the appropriate law enforcement agencies to report her. If you feel the kids welfare is in danger then contact an attorney to discuss an emergency protection order. "

 

[stealth2]

I so wish there were an eye-rolling emoticon on the site...

 

[BuyLowSellHigh]

I would risk neither.

Seriously, stay in. Stop the spread. It's a no-brainer.

Yes, but it also a no-brainer that you can't legally tell mom that she can't have her boyfriend visit.

 

[stealth2]

Yes, but it also a no-brainer that you can't legally tell mom that she can't have her boyfriend visit.

I think that was mentioned a few times...

 

[steve5505]

Thanks for prodding me to set up the communication platform I have it set up and now that's how we're communicating.

The kids are small enough that they will infect and be infected by whichever one of us they're with. They still put their mouths on things and have their fingers in their noses a lot. The Mother has put in email that her boyfriend and his kids have been over. One time the boyfriend was over while the Mother was supposed to be in quarantine.

Neither me nor the Mother need to leave our houses for work. So having boyfriend have to work in an office seems like a giant extension of the otherwise fairly minimized risk. Not sure if that matters.

It doesn't do much good for me to be around the kids in a hotel and just not bring them home, as I mentioned if they are sick they would get me sick and I would just bring that home.

If I was a repugnant human being I could threaten to start dating the woman I was dating again who works outside the home, her ex husband also works outside the home they have two kids. There is no way I would do that, threaten it or actually do it.

My Mom(Grandma) is out of town right now. When she is back, even if boyfriend wasn't coming over I can't expose her to even just the contact with the kids and the Mother. I didn't realize that at first. So really the only issue to deal with is the Mother putting the kids at risk. She has tenuously agreed for now to not have him over. I don't expect it to last long.

There have been some comments about working together I appreciate the sentiment. Mother was extremely mentally abusive and doesn't see me as a human being more like an object who is entitled to absolutely nothing. Imagine Superman and Lex Luther sharing custody of children. There is no amount of appealing Superman could do to get Lex Luther to stop acting destructively towards him. I wish more than anything that was an exaggeration.

Thanks again for all of your time and debate.

 

[Just Blue]

"Imagine Superman and Lex Luther sharing custody of children. "


^^ made me chuckle. It also gave me a mental image of what the children of Superman (Reeves) and Lex Luthor (Gene Hackman) would look like...bald w/ strong chin. Could be cute for boys...not so much for girls.