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Valuing Residential Rental Depreciation After Mom Is Put Into Nursing Home

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allanb

Junior Member
California, My Dad died in 2012. My Mom & Dad bought their home in 1959 for $13 thousand dollars. It is free and clear. I put my Mom in a Nursing Home on March 1st, 2020. Rented her property on April 1st 2020 for $2,700 a month. Question: Do I now set the basis for the property for Depreciation to the value of the home on April 1st 2020 minus land cost of course or do I have to depreciate the original Basis value of $13k plus any improvements.
Thanks so much, Al
 


quincy

Senior Member
California, My Dad died in 2012. My Mom & Dad bought their home in 1959 for $13 thousand dollars. It is free and clear. I put my Mom in a Nursing Home on March 1st, 2020. Rented her property on April 1st 2020 for $2,700 a month. Question: Do I now set the basis for the property for Depreciation to the value of the home on April 1st 2020 minus land cost of course or do I have to depreciate the original Basis value of $13k plus any improvements.
Thanks so much, Al
For what purpose? Taxes?
 

Taxing Matters

Overtaxed Member
Question: Do I now set the basis for the property for Depreciation to the value of the home on April 1st 2020 minus land cost of course or do I have to depreciate the original Basis value of $13k plus any improvements.
The answer is that you use the adjusted basis of the structure itself (the land of course is not depreciable) on the date the property is placed into service as a rental. The adjusted basis here is the $13,000 purchase price of the home in 1959, with an appropriate allocation of that price between land and structure as it would have been in 1959. Then you add to that the cost of improvements like an addition, new roof, new furnace etc but not the cost of routine repairs and maintenance. You'd subtract any depreciation they've already taken and make any other necessary adjustments for things like casualty losses, etc. The full explanation for the starting basis can be found in IRS publication 527 starting on page 7. The publication has a lot of other great information on the income tax treatment of residential rental property. California essentially uses the federal rules too.

Unfortunately this means that the adjusted basis for the structure may be quite low with the result that the depreciation deduction in this instance will not be very large.
 

allanb

Junior Member
Thank you, that does tell me what I need to know. Not what I wanted to hear though as the value of the Depreciation Allowance is quite small compared to if the basis was allowed to be adjusted to the current market value.
Thank you for the info though!!
 

Taxing Matters

Overtaxed Member
Thank you, that does tell me what I need to know. Not what I wanted to hear though as the value of the Depreciation Allowance is quite small compared to if the basis was allowed to be adjusted to the current market value.
Thank you for the info though!!
You're welcome. I'm glad that I was able to provide you the information you needed.
 

aldaron

Member
" Then you add to that the cost of improvements like an addition, new roof, new furnace etc but not the cost of routine repairs and maintenance". Since when is a new roof or furnace not needed maintenance on a home built in 1959? The answer to this ? should have a lot of folks filing amended tax returns for prior years.
 

quincy

Senior Member
" Then you add to that the cost of improvements like an addition, new roof, new furnace etc but not the cost of routine repairs and maintenance". Since when is a new roof or furnace not needed maintenance on a home built in 1959? The answer to this ? should have a lot of folks filing amended tax returns for prior years.
A new roof adds to the value of a home. Routine repairs and maintenance of a roof don’t.
 

aldaron

Member
I was wrong in my 1st reaction thinking about tax deductions, improved valuation is the key. Thanks, even Einstein was wrong once or twice.
 

Taxing Matters

Overtaxed Member
" Then you add to that the cost of improvements like an addition, new roof, new furnace etc but not the cost of routine repairs and maintenance". Since when is a new roof or furnace not needed maintenance on a home built in 1959? The answer to this ? should have a lot of folks filing amended tax returns for prior years.
Putting on a new roof may be needed, but it is an improvement that adds to the value of the property and has a useful life more than one year. The costs for such improvements are added to the basis (and thus increase the base for depreciation when the property is a rental). Routine maintenance, like clearing snow off the sidewalks, maintaining the lawn, painting the interior, changing a lightbulb, fixing a broken sink or toilet, etc, are not improvements to the property and thus are not additions to basis. When the property is a rental the costs for those expenses may be deducted in full in the tax year the cost was incurred. See IRS publication 523 starting on the bottom of page 8 for the discussion of what counts as improvements (and thus additions to basis).
 
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quincy

Senior Member
I was wrong in my 1st reaction thinking about tax deductions, improved valuation is the key. Thanks, even Einstein was wrong once or twice.
He was wrong more than once or twice ... but Einstein’s errors tend to be found on a plane far removed from the one where us ordinary mortals roam. :)

Perhaps my favorite Einstein quote: “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing it is stupid.”
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
He was wrong more than once or twice ... but Einstein’s errors tend to be found on a plane far removed from the one where us ordinary mortals roam. :)

Perhaps my favorite Einstein quote: “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing it is stupid.”
I love that quote!
 

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