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What does they don't have an auto withdrawl system at my address even mean? Change banks if your bank does not have a bill pay option.
It means, the landlord has an online-pay system for most of their tenants... but not for my address. But that is brilliant! I never considered the bill-pay option from my bank. Good suggestion. I'll look into that.
 


Gail in Georgia

Senior Member
I do Billpay for many of my bills. Just make certain you review the estimated time the payment will reach the creditor. Lately my bank (Wells Fargo) has posted that the payments are taking longer than 5 days to reach creditors so I am setting the release dates of the funds earlier than usual.
 
I do Billpay for many of my bills. Just make certain you review the estimated time the payment will reach the creditor. Lately my bank (Wells Fargo) has posted that the payments are taking longer than 5 days to reach creditors so I am setting the release dates of the funds earlier than usual.
Thank you. I will take that into account.
 
Has it not occurred to you that the landlord likely sent out the pay or quit notice on Thursday or Friday before you called and it just happened to arrive on Monday? Or is your mail only lagging on your end when you mail your rent?
I did consider that, however, the papers were signed on Monday and hand-delivered by the sheriff. I'm just going to hopefully nip this in the bud by using my bank's Bill Pay service. Hopefully, it gets the check to the landlord on time or even early.

And rent isn't the only thing that gets lost in the mail. It has really gone downhill in the last year or so.
 
Seriously, people. There is a difference between answering questions and answering questions with venom. I'm sorry that I brought up my concerns or shared that I am not absolutely perfect. I'm sorry you feel like I am a "pain in the ass" "deadbeat" tenant because my rent was late four times in two and a half years. And I'm sorry that I thought anyone in this forum would treat me like a human being rather than the lowest piece of garbage that exists.

Let me be perfectly clear: I pay my rent. It may not ALWAYS be exactly on time, but I get it paid. I work as hard as I can to be a good tenant. And when I leave an apartment, it is clean and in good condition. I don't drink alcohol, I don't do drugs, I don't cause noise nuisances, I don't make complaints or demands on the landlord, and I follow the terms of my lease to the best of my ability. So, please stop talking to me like I am the worst tenant in the history of tenants.
 

STEPHAN

Senior Member
It may not ALWAYS be exactly on time, but I get it paid.
Screwygirl, I get it that you are a good person. But this is a legal forum. Your lease requires payment on the 1st. You are not keeping your agreement and it sounds like you feel that is okay, as you are making a lot of effort and have good reasons why you are late.

The landlord has to make his payments on time. His mortgage company does not give a #### that you have "good" reasons to be late. The landlord has to make his payment on time and chase your payment. That becomes very frustrating after a while.

I am a landlord. 99% of my tenants pay on or before rent is due. One moved in a few months ago and is constantly late. Guess who just got a notice that we ended his lease?

I understand life is hard. But you said that money is not the problem. So you need to change something. Pay 5 days early and your landlord will love you.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I was going to go into details and try to explain what happened each time. No one gives a damn about it. Everyone just hears that I was late. It doesn't matter to any of you how it happened.
First off...no, it really doesn't matter.

But, my main point is that you seem to think the LL is a "bad guy" for expecting you to abide by your end of the deal (contract/lease/rental agreement). Your attempt to shift the blame to someone else is what I have a problem with...not your occasional late payments. As was mentioned above, sending a "pay or quit" type notice is a legal requirement and one that is wise for every landlord once the rent is late. The LL doesn't have to take it any further than that if they choose not to.
 
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not2cleverRed

Obvious Observer
Seriously, people. There is a difference between answering questions and answering questions with venom. I'm sorry that I brought up my concerns or shared that I am not absolutely perfect. I'm sorry you feel like I am a "pain in the ass" "deadbeat" tenant because my rent was late four times in two and a half years. And I'm sorry that I thought anyone in this forum would treat me like a human being rather than the lowest piece of garbage that exists.
The other thing you can do while trying to set this up is call your landlord when rent is due to confirm that the payment has arrived.

It could be worse. I got a similar notice once because of management's inept bookkeeping - even though I'd paid in full, on time (usually at least a day early) every month. I had copies of my bank records showing that they had cashed the checks and made them check month by month. They were downright nasty and tried to infer that all my payments were a month late. It turned out that they actually owed me a credit. They similarly tried to stiff me out of my deposit for nonpayment of rent - again, had show bank records that they had actually cashed all my rent checks.

ALWAYS KEEP RECORDS OF YOUR RENT PAYMENTS.
 

zddoodah

Active Member
I was going to go into details and try to explain what happened each time. No one gives a damn about it. Everyone just hears that I was late. It doesn't matter to any of you how it happened.
You're right. It doesn't matter. Your obligation is to pay rent when due. You failed. That's all that matters. Your posts don't seem to take into account in the slightest that there's someone on the other end of the payments who may depend greatly on receiving your rental payments (e.g., to pay the mortgage and taxes and insurance on the property), and for whom constantly receiving late payments creates a huge hardship. That's why I relayed the story about my prior tenant. The hassle of evicting a constantly delinquent tenant is pretty significant, so I tolerated the tenant, but it sucked and created a lot of stress in my life.

You just assume I am a horrible tenant who is trying to get away with being late or not paying my rent.
I don't assume any such thing. I neither know nor care. As stated above, all that matters is that you failed in your obligation to pay rent as due, and that has consequences.

Does anyone have suggestions as to how I can get my rent check to my landlord that won't cost a fortune?
I already answered this question: "deliver the check personally. Or use an overnight courier. Or send it a week before it's due." You could send a Fedex letter from Keene, NH to Manchester, NH today and have it arrive on Friday at the cost of $12.90.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
The other thing you can do while trying to set this up is call your landlord when rent is due to confirm that the payment has arrived.

It could be worse. I got a similar notice once because of management's inept bookkeeping - even though I'd paid in full, on time (usually at least a day early) every month. I had copies of my bank records showing that they had cashed the checks and made them check month by month. They were downright nasty and tried to infer that all my payments were a month late. It turned out that they actually owed me a credit. They similarly tried to stiff me out of my deposit for nonpayment of rent - again, had show bank records that they had actually cashed all my rent checks.

ALWAYS KEEP RECORDS OF YOUR RENT PAYMENTS.
The one and only Pay or Quit I received in my 35+ years of renting was due to a error made by my LL. The ex and I always dropped our rent check off at the LL management office the next town over. One month we put the check in with the lease renewal. About 3 weeks later we got the pay or quit. Checked the bank account and saw that they hadn't cashed the check so I called to find out what happened...turns out the secretary had pulled out the lease but missed that there was a check in the envelope and tossed it out.
 
Thanks for the replies and suggestions. I have tried FedEx, but they rescheduled a delivery date on me with no notification recently. I'll try it again if the Bill Pay doesn't work. I can't "delivery it personally." I have explained that I don't have the means to get to my landlord's office. I looked into the bus, but there is no bus that goes from my city to the LL's city. I will send the rent check out as early as I can, but I never write a check unless the money is in the bank to cover it.

Point 1: I understand my posts come off as me thinking my LL is a bad guy for giving me an eviction notice. I am not always succinct with my explanations, and sometimes when I go back and read them, I can see that they may be taken differently than how they were meant to be taken. I'd like to clarify. I was upset because I called the LL on Friday out of concern that my rent check had not cleared the bank. They gave me the impression that as long as I sent them out another check that everything would be fine. I put a new check in the mail (certified) that very day. On Monday, I received a demand for rent and notice to quit. While perfectly legal and well within his rights to do so, it just seemed odd to do it, especially when you know the rent is being paid. I've never had a LL that worked like that.

Point 2: I don't have any animosity towards my LL. There is a small clause in my lease that states if three eviction processes are started within one year, on the third one, he can evict even if the rent is paid. So for him to start this process over a late payment makes me nervous, especially when I called. My worry is that my LL has animosity towards me and may try to evict me anyway, even when I pay him.

Point 3: Over the last two years, I have had so many things go wrong... not just with the rent, either. I get that my LL has no obligation to "cut me some slack" but for the love of decency, I am giving it my all, here. It just never seems to be enough.

Anyway, thank you for the suggestions. I will try them.
 

STEPHAN

Senior Member
Good luck!

Maybe you can pay your landlord via Zelle? Most banks work with it now. And most landlords accept it.
 

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