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50% Undivided Interest, all as JOINT TENANTS. Wrong APN# on deed pre 1950?

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DustinB15

Active Member
California,

Hello,

So i own 50% Undivided Interest, all as JOINT TENANTS. of a property on the deed. My father told me the property its self-has two deeds. I looked at the APN # and it doesn't exist according to the title company. I looked and found another APN number that totals the est. amount of the property (1.6 Acres). I guess Pre 1950 they didn't have APN numbers? Im thinking in 1949/1950 they combined all three deeds into 1 and gave it a new number. Does that sound right? Is the deed void because of the wrong APN number? On the 2nd part of the deed it says this:

The real property in the Unincorporated Area of the County of BUTTE, State of California, described as: Description: SEE LEGAL PROPERTY DESCRIPTION

A portion of lot ##, according to that certain Map entitled, "'[MAP TITLE]", which Map recorded in the office of the Recorder of the County of Butte, State of California, October ##, 19## in Boo· ## of maps, at pages ## and ##, described as follows:

Begi.nni:ng at the northwesterly comer of said Lot ##, as shown on said Map; thence along the Westerly and Southerly boundary of said Lot ##, the following courses and distances: South ##° 50' East, ###. IO feet; North ##° ### East, ##.## feet; South ##° ##' East, ###.## feet; thence North ##° ##' East, ###.## feet; and North ##° ##' East, ###.## feet to the true point of beginning for the parcel of land herein described; then North # #° ##' West, a distance of ###. I # feet to a point on the Northerly boundary of said Lot ##, then along tl_!_e_Northerly_boundmy,.Qfsaid Lot ##, North ##°.##:...East,Jl._distance of ##.## feet;. thence North ##° ##' East, a distance of ##.## feet; thence Southeasterly in a straight line, a distance of ###.# feet, more or less, to a point in the Southerly line of said Lot ##; that bears North ##° ### East, a distance of ###.# feet from the true point of beginning; thence South ##° ##' West, ###.# feet to the true point of beginning.

EXCEPTING THEREFROM all that portion lying within the boundaries of that certain parcel of land described in Deed from A J. Castleberry, et a to the County of Butte, dated January ##. 19## and recorded June ##, 19## in Book ### ofOfficia1 Records, page ###, records of Butte County, California.
 
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justalayman

Senior Member
I’m not sure what your actual question is. Could you clarify that?


Deeds aren’t bad or void because some state created numbering system. In fact an unregistered deed is generally valid although it can cause some issues if there is another newer deed registered that claims to transfer the same property.


If you own 50% of a joint tenancy that would mean some other person Or it could be a group of people own the other 50%. The held shares must be equal in a joint tenancy. Your statement suggests there may be more than 2 owners. Is there?
 

DustinB15

Active Member
Sorry
I’m not sure what your actual question is. Could you clarify that?


Deeds aren’t bad or void because some state created numbering system. In fact an unregistered deed is generally valid although it can cause some issues if there is another newer deed registered that claims to transfer the same property.


If you own 50% of a joint tenancy that would mean some other person Or it could be a group of people own the other 50%. The held shares must be equal in a joint tenancy. Your statement suggests there may be more than 2 owners. Is there?
Sorry, I’m kinda dumb at this stuff but I own, 50% on the deed and my father and step mom own the other 50%. I’m asking if a property would have a deed on it if nobody can find it? Back in the 20’s it was 3 different properties and 3 deeds. Then 1 person bought all 3. That’s the story my dad told me and grandma. Now when we look it up only 1 deed shows up with the full amount of all combined. Would there be any situation where a deed would pop out of nowhere lol
 

HRZ

Senior Member
One deed that combines all three smaller tracts makes a lot of sense.

I did not look up rules for your state...but if somebody fails to record a deed and some other deed crops out of woodwork and is recorded first ..that deed may trump the unrecorded one

But apparently your deed with Dad and SM is recorded .
 

xylene

Senior Member
You need to get some legal help. We cannot review your deed and this reveals personal information.

Do you have a more general question about your property? You didn't really ask a specific or general question at all.
 

FlyingRon

Senior Member
Unlike vehicles, properties don't have a single "deed." Title is determined by all deeds conveying ownership from one party to another through history. Researching this isn't always obvious especially when there has been property subdivided or joined together. You can go to a title company. The specialize in doing such research and will issue insurance to warranty their findings.
 

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