SillyPuddy
Member
"Were the penalties you faced effective AND fair?"
** The elected offcials that write DUI laws don't consider fairness to be relevant....unless they're stopped for a DUI. hehe. As far as effective goes, that's very subjective. Only a very small percentage of people that drive with alchohol in their system are caught. All of the penalties for DUI are placed on an extremely small percentage of the population. You can attest increases in the severity of DUI laws as contributing to the small reduction in DUI over the last few years, but it's more likely the public being more conscious about health and the negative effects alchohol can have on your health and people either drinking less or not drinking at all.
"What I’m looking for are thing like: If you had a drinking problem, did going through the programs and whatever help fix that?"
** No. Sadly, what I saw going through the programs were couselors that naievly believed in what they're doing but they're were nothing more than puppets in the state government sanctioned alchohol economy. I had to seek real help for my drinking problem from people and organizations that had no connection with state government.
"Did the sanctions against you prevent you from driving drunk again while still being reasonable (for example, if the penalty for DUI was execution, that would certainly drop the number of drunk drivers, but that penalty isn’t really (under normal circumstances) in proportion with the crime)."
** Realisticly, the only way to nip drinking and driving in the bud would be to enact alchohol restriction legislation. A few decades ago, that was called "prohibition". The cool thing about that is all of the police chase videos you could watch on TV invovling officers chasing drivers running moonshine.
"Would you have learned the same lesson if the courts had only fined you a significant amount or did you learn “better” because of other penalties? "
** A genuine drinking problem has no connection to courts and penalties. The courts and penalties are just the evidence that a drinking problem exists and needs to be treated.
"I’m just curious how people feel about this particular topic."
** As long as state government is involved in and controlls alchohol, I will be under the impression that behind the scenes, state governments primary objective is to profit from the sales of alchohol and the revenue that comes from alchohol infractions.
** The elected offcials that write DUI laws don't consider fairness to be relevant....unless they're stopped for a DUI. hehe. As far as effective goes, that's very subjective. Only a very small percentage of people that drive with alchohol in their system are caught. All of the penalties for DUI are placed on an extremely small percentage of the population. You can attest increases in the severity of DUI laws as contributing to the small reduction in DUI over the last few years, but it's more likely the public being more conscious about health and the negative effects alchohol can have on your health and people either drinking less or not drinking at all.
"What I’m looking for are thing like: If you had a drinking problem, did going through the programs and whatever help fix that?"
** No. Sadly, what I saw going through the programs were couselors that naievly believed in what they're doing but they're were nothing more than puppets in the state government sanctioned alchohol economy. I had to seek real help for my drinking problem from people and organizations that had no connection with state government.
"Did the sanctions against you prevent you from driving drunk again while still being reasonable (for example, if the penalty for DUI was execution, that would certainly drop the number of drunk drivers, but that penalty isn’t really (under normal circumstances) in proportion with the crime)."
** Realisticly, the only way to nip drinking and driving in the bud would be to enact alchohol restriction legislation. A few decades ago, that was called "prohibition". The cool thing about that is all of the police chase videos you could watch on TV invovling officers chasing drivers running moonshine.
"Would you have learned the same lesson if the courts had only fined you a significant amount or did you learn “better” because of other penalties? "
** A genuine drinking problem has no connection to courts and penalties. The courts and penalties are just the evidence that a drinking problem exists and needs to be treated.
"I’m just curious how people feel about this particular topic."
** As long as state government is involved in and controlls alchohol, I will be under the impression that behind the scenes, state governments primary objective is to profit from the sales of alchohol and the revenue that comes from alchohol infractions.