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isis297

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Unfortunately, as I said before, it is too late for that. The girl told her mother and mine that she wanted the baby to have HER last name and wasn't sure whether to add the boy's at all. In the end, she decided to leave his name off and give the baby her last name but while HER mother was at work, HIS mother and him convinced her to do both...give the baby HIS last name and put his name on the birth certificate. :mad:
 


Happy Trails

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I'll be very brief. Do not put the father's name on the Birth Certificate.
Too late for that.


isis297 said:
While the girl's mother TOLD her not to put his name on the birth certificate or to give in and give the baby the boy's last name, the PG got her to do it anyhow. Both his name was put on the form AND the baby was given his last name even though that isn't what the girl had said she wanted.
 

Happy Trails

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Unfortunately, as I said before, it is too late for that. The girl told her mother and mine that she wanted the baby to have HER last name and wasn't sure whether to add the boy's at all. In the end, she decided to leave his name off and give the baby her last name but while HER mother was at work, HIS mother and him convinced her to do both...give the baby HIS last name and put his name on the birth certificate. :mad:
You beat me to it.
 

isis297

Member
Is there nothing the girl could do now about the birth certificate form? Does anybody have any suggestions for how to deal with the boy and his mother? It doesn't seem right that because the girl's mother is trying to provide for her family that it gives them the right to come in and manipulate her daughter. I'll tell you, my biggest fear is this woman is going to talk the girl into signing the baby over to her. She has not hidden that the baby is all she wants.
 
Is there nothing the girl could do now about the birth certificate form?
IMHO, this is the least of the issues in this situation to be concerned about. Regardless of the last name, the BABY is here and needs to be taken care of. Regardless of the name, the 15 girl is the child's legal mother. Unless the father also signed an AOP AND the state of MD accepts that as legal determination of paternity, his name on the birth certificate itself means little. And, even if not listed as the father on the BC, it would not stop him from filing for paternity, legal custody, visitation, etc. from the courts.

I'll tell you, my biggest fear is this woman is going to talk the girl into signing the baby over to her. She has not hidden that the baby is all she wants.
That could happen, but a court would have to confirm any guardianship or custody for it to be legal. However, the girl giving her agreement would greatly help paternal grandmother in court. And, if so, all it proves is the fact that neither the baby's mother or father are emotionally capable of being parents right now. It's a shame that adoption was not viewed as in the best interest of the child in this situation. Or, hopefully, a more cooperative arrangement will be made within the extended family.
 

isis297

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More advice needed

Things have only gotten worse since the girl has come home with the baby. Yesterday the PG went to the house and told the girl to get ready, they were going to her house. She told her she couldn't stay home alone with the baby. The girl told her she knows how to take care of her baby. The PG picked the baby up, walked out with him and told the girl she could come with her or not. The girl's father shows up and the PG tells him "She wants to come to our house for a while..DON'T YOU?" So the girl said "yes". Come to find out, the PG told the girl that if she wanted to see her baby again, she would agree with whatever she tells her.

When the girl's mother went to pick her up, the boyfriend jumped in the car. She told him she wanted to spend some time alone with her daughter and grandson and they could see him tomorrow (today now). He told her that's his baby and he is not letting him out of his sight.

Can she get a restraining order against the boy and the PG? I really feel like this needs to be handled through the courts now...either that or the family needs to pick up and move in the middle of the night so they are never found again. This boy and his family are not right in their heads!!! Their behavior is frightening. How is anybody supposed to try to work something out with these people when they do and say the things they do? The girl is scared of them. Apparently the boy is talking about having another baby!! The girl supposedly has told him there's no way he's having it with her but who knows what they will convince her of next.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Things have only gotten worse since the girl has come home with the baby. Yesterday the PG went to the house and told the girl to get ready, they were going to her house. She told her she couldn't stay home alone with the baby. The girl told her she knows how to take care of her baby. The PG picked the baby up, walked out with him and told the girl she could come with her or not. The girl's father shows up and the PG tells him "She wants to come to our house for a while..DON'T YOU?" So the girl said "yes". Come to find out, the PG told the girl that if she wanted to see her baby again, she would agree with whatever she tells her.

When the girl's mother went to pick her up, the boyfriend jumped in the car. She told him she wanted to spend some time alone with her daughter and grandson and they could see him tomorrow (today now). He told her that's his baby and he is not letting him out of his sight.

Can she get a restraining order against the boy and the PG? I really feel like this needs to be handled through the courts now...either that or the family needs to pick up and move in the middle of the night so they are never found again. This boy and his family are not right in their heads!!! Their behavior is frightening. How is anybody supposed to try to work something out with these people when they do and say the things they do? The girl is scared of them. Apparently the boy is talking about having another baby!! The girl supposedly has told him there's no way he's having it with her but who knows what they will convince her of next.

The next time PG shows up the girl calls the police and files charges against her for kidnapping. Is this boy even the legal father? She needs to immediately file for paternity, child support and custody and court orders. She does NOT have to let this boy near the baby nor does she have to let any of them in to her house.
If she fears imminent bodily harm she can file dv charges against the boy and get a restraining order. That will NOT prevent the boy from being able to get visitation/joint custody of the baby however.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
I think that the girls parents also need to file for the restraining orders. This is an awful situation.
 

isis297

Member
Supposedly the boy is the only one the girl has ever been with. As possessive as he's been both before the baby was born and after, I wouldn't doubt it. He never leaves her alone.

He is on the birth certificate because his mother and him made her put him on while her mother was at work.

Other than that, nothing legal has been set up to name him the father as far as DNA tests or anything through the courts.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Supposedly the boy is the only one the girl has ever been with. As possessive as he's been both before the baby was born and after, I wouldn't doubt it. He never leaves her alone.

He is on the birth certificate because his mother and him made her put him on while her mother was at work.

Other than that, nothing legal has been set up to name him the father as far as DNA tests or anything through the courts.
Then he is NOT the legal father. He has not been legally adjudicated the father. And she needs to file to have that determined and get court orders in place.
 

Bay1954

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Sorry, everyone that I missed the birth certificate thing. I probably also missed the state in which the young mother and child reside. Which state is it?
Depending upon the state, there many be something one can do as the child is stil la minor and childbirth, in at least my state, does not emanicipate the teenage mother, particularly.
I would very much suggest that the family visit a very good family law atty.
 
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Aria

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It doesn't sound like the girl or her mother are in any situation to have the baby. She's too young and way too immature and her mother sounds like she's gone a LOT. Yes, she needs to work for money, but the baby shouldn't be a rope in a tug of war. Is the PGM in a position to properly raise the child? Shut up about how she's not the parent. This isn't about those kids as much as it is about making sure this baby has a stable life.

Get it in court NOW. That's all there is to it. And have your friend's mother tell the boy's family that if any of them come to her home, the police will be called for trespassing. Even the boy does not have legal right to be at the home if he's not wanted. However, it would be in everyone's best interest if the girl and her mother allowed the boy, and only the boy, over to visit. This will show the court she has no intention to keep him from his (possible) son. (Of course she wouldn't want to admit to sleeping with anyone else - I'm sure her parents were plenty pissed she even got pregnant.)

Forget about the birth certificate and last name. The court will probably order a DNA test and his name will either be taken off if he's not, or would have been added anyway. The judge may order, at her request, to ADD her last name hyphenated if he's the father, or to only her name if not. But if he's the father, he has every legal right to see his child and for the child to have his last name as part of it. The baby belongs to BOTH of them, not just her.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
It doesn't sound like the girl or her mother are in any situation to have the baby.
Who the hell are you to make this determination?

She's too young and way too immature and her mother sounds like she's gone a LOT
Again your opinion means NOTHING. There is the law to consider.

Yes, she needs to work for money, but the baby shouldn't be a rope in a tug of war.
No the baby shouldn't be however I don't see where mom is making the child a rope.

Is the PGM in a position to properly raise the child? Shut up about how she's not the parent.
Why don't you shut the hell up until you figure out the law. Quite frankly you are giving emotional based advice which has NOTHING to do with the law. And this site is about the LAW! PGM is not even LEGALLY the PGM -- she is NO ONE. Mom is the only one with rights at this point.

This isn't about those kids as much as it is about making sure this baby has a stable life.
Really? What constitutes a stable life? Who says PGM can provide that? Who says mom can't? The law doesn't look at stable life when determining if a parent can continue being a parent or their rights can be usurped by anyone else -- they look at fitness. And there is NOTHING in this post that says that mom is not fit.


Get it in court NOW.
How do you expect them to do that? It can take several weeks if not months for that to happen.

That's all there is to it.
Apparently not because you were babbling not three sentences ago about how PGm should have rights to this child.

And have your friend's mother tell the boy's family that if any of them come to her home, the police will be called for trespassing.
She was already told this by people more qualified than you.

Even the boy does not have legal right to be at the home if he's not wanted. However, it would be in everyone's best interest if the girl and her mother allowed the boy, and only the boy, over to visit.
Actually no it would not until the paternity issue is settled and there is a court order in place due to the actions of the boy and his mother.

This will show the court she has no intention to keep him from his (possible) son.
Actually no. In this case that doesn't matter as much as you would think based on the actions of PGM and the possible father. She doesn't have to allow anything until there are at least temp orders in place saying she has to do that. If she goes to court ASAP that will show the court she is not intending to prevent a relationship from being established.

(Of course she wouldn't want to admit to sleeping with anyone else - I'm sure her parents were plenty pissed she even got pregnant.)
You assume a lot don't you?


Forget about the birth certificate and last name. The court will probably order a DNA test and his name will either be taken off if he's not, or would have been added anyway.
And you know this based on what? If DNA shows he is not the father then the baby's last name is not automatically changed to hers. And it is not automatic that the last name would be added if he is the father proven by DNA.

The judge may order, at her request, to ADD her last name hyphenated if he's the father, or to only her name if not.
This a different statement than you made before but it is at least more accurate.

But if he's the father, he has every legal right to see his child and for the child to have his last name as part of it.
Okay now you are wrong again. If he is the father, he has a right to see his child IF there is a court order stating otherwise. he does not have any legal rights to visitation until a court order grants him those rights. Same with the last name. Please tell me where you got your law degree from? If I were you I would ask for your money back.

The baby belongs to BOTH of them, not just her.
Actually the baby is NOT property and belongs to no one. She is the baby's ONLY LEGAL CUSTODIAN AND PARENT. Therefore mom is the only one with legal rights.
 

Just Blue

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It doesn't sound like the girl or her mother are in any situation to have the baby. She's too young and way too immature and her mother sounds like she's gone a LOT. Yes, she needs to work for money, but the baby shouldn't be a rope in a tug of war. Is the PGM in a position to properly raise the child? Shut up about how she's not the parent. This isn't about those kids as much as it is about making sure this baby has a stable life.

Get it in court NOW. That's all there is to it. And have your friend's mother tell the boy's family that if any of them come to her home, the police will be called for trespassing. Even the boy does not have legal right to be at the home if he's not wanted. However, it would be in everyone's best interest if the girl and her mother allowed the boy, and only the boy, over to visit. This will show the court she has no intention to keep him from his (possible) son. (Of course she wouldn't want to admit to sleeping with anyone else - I'm sure her parents were plenty pissed she even got pregnant.)

Forget about the birth certificate and last name. The court will probably order a DNA test and his name will either be taken off if he's not, or would have been added anyway. The judge may order, at her request, to ADD her last name hyphenated if he's the father, or to only her name if not. But if he's the father, he has every legal right to see his child and for the child to have his last name as part of it. The baby belongs to BOTH of them, not just her.
Considering your comment on another thread regarding pregnant teens, OP would be very wise to totally ignore your advice.:rolleyes:
 
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