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BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
w The One w said:
Im usually not one to get irked by others but I do believe the title of this website is "Free Legal Advice" which is what I was looking for. If you read any of what I had said and not construed it to your own power trip on morality, I had said that I'm only asking to see if there is even the possibility of CONSIDERING anything. Which is exactly what I am doing, CONSIDERING, not doing. If I wanted moral advice I would have asked for it. Its disapointing to see that people can't leave their opinions at the door when trying to give advice.
And it's disappointing to find kids still can't take responsibility for their own hormones.

:rolleyes:
 


SirNash

Member
w The One w said:
Im usually not one to get irked by others but I do believe the title of this website is "Free Legal Advice" which is what I was looking for. If you read any of what I had said and not construed it to your own power trip on morality, I had said that I'm only asking to see if there is even the possibility of CONSIDERING anything. Which is exactly what I am doing, CONSIDERING, not doing. If I wanted moral advice I would have asked for it. Its disapointing to see that people can't leave their opinions at the door when trying to give advice.
So you want an opinion on the law without any moral considerations...you are asking for a PERSON's opinion but the person is supposed to keep his/her morals out of it.

I'm not an attorney but I'd say the laws of our country come, in one way or another, from the collective MORALS of our society. Therefore, asking for "the law" without "moral considerations" is farily ridiculous.

Aside from that, the plain fact is, you are 18 considering having a sexual relationship with a 16 year old...while I'm sure you feel VERY grown up and very much in love (I know I did when I was 18), the fact is, those who have been around a while longer than you understand how much growing up you have to do yet not to mention how unlikely it is that you'll still be with this girl 20 or 30 years from now. So, when they give advice, they are probably going to do more than just offer cold, hard law but they are going to speak from their experience as well.

Aside from that, while you didn't ask for moral advice, YOU SHOULD - most important decisions are, ultimately, moral decisions.
 

signat

Member
SirNash said:
So you want an opinion on the law without any moral considerations...you are asking for a PERSON's opinion but the person is supposed to keep his/her morals out of it.

I'm not an attorney but I'd say the laws of our country come, in one way or another, from the collective MORALS of our society. Therefore, asking for "the law" without "moral considerations" is farily ridiculous.

Aside from that, the plain fact is, you are 18 considering having a sexual relationship with a 16 year old...while I'm sure you feel VERY grown up and very much in love (I know I did when I was 18), the fact is, those who have been around a while longer than you understand how much growing up you have to do yet not to mention how unlikely it is that you'll still be with this girl 20 or 30 years from now. So, when they give advice, they are probably going to do more than just offer cold, hard law but they are going to speak from their experience as well.

Aside from that, while you didn't ask for moral advice, YOU SHOULD - most
important decisions are, ultimately, moral decisions.
You are a little late jumping on this bandwaggon, Mr. Nash.
 

Wolflmg

Member
SirNash said:
Yes...I know and I'm sure he's moved on to other boards until he gets the answer he likes. :)

Thanks SirNash, :) . All we can hope is he makes the right choice, or otherwise he'll learn things the hard way.
 

w The One w

Junior Member
Just so you dont think I'm a heal, I have not moved onto another board and am not as irrisponsable as you all make me out to be. If it makes any of your days better my morals have won out an we hace not done anything and dont plan on doing anything untill weve been together for much longer and/or hopefully are together forever. well any way, i still appreciate the advice. thanks again.
 

Wolflmg

Member
laurathelawyer said:
This is so obviously false that I'mn surprised anyone could believe it. Do you realize that most teenagers have had sex?
Yes, but I aslo learned from reading news reports and tv, that years later in life. When they have grown up and mature they regret that they had sex, so young.

If this were false then why was it so easy for me to find. You may not regret it, but maybe someday you will or maybe you wont. But the truth is, there are those out there that do. And I know a few and many of them were emotional unstable because of it.

The teen years are very emotional and hard years. It begins the part of leaving you childhood behind, some try to grow up to quickly and interact in things there not ready for. And for some they end up learning the hard way just what growing up too fast can do. The point is until they haveb't really grown up, they may not always see the wrongs of their way and how it will effect them later on in life.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/07/06/LV292381.DTL&type=printable
http://www.christianitytoday.com/tc/2003/002/7.28.html
http://www.seccyouth.com/sextalk.html #46
http://www.mrjimhoman.com/klusawpaper.html
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/sexuality/se0094.html
http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/YU/ay1092.asp
 
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Wolflmg said:
Yes, but I aslo learned from reading news reports and tv, that years later in life. When they have grown up and mature they regret that they had sex, so young.

If this were false then why was it so easy for me to find. You may not regret it, but maybe someday you will or maybe you wont. But the truth is, there are those out there that do. And I know a few and many of them were emotional unstable because of it.

The teen years are very emotional and hard years. It begins the part of leaving you childhood behind, some try to grow up to quickly and interact in things there not ready for. And for some they end up learning the hard way just what growing up too fast can do. The point is until they haveb't really grown up, they may not always see the wrongs of their way and how it will effect them later on in life.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/07/06/LV292381.DTL&type=printable
http://www.christianitytoday.com/tc/2003/002/7.28.html
http://www.seccyouth.com/sextalk.html #46
http://www.mrjimhoman.com/klusawpaper.html
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/sexuality/se0094.html
http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/YU/ay1092.asp
I'm not interested in reading all these religious articles, but the first one cites a study about regrets among children who became sexually active at age 14 or younger. That's not surprising. I bet a lot of people who become sexually active at a very young age had early sexual experiences that were nonconsensual. This is a far cry from people who become sexually active in the range of 15-19, which is the majority of people.

It's funny that it's your attitude that actually creates the problem that you're purporting to be concerned about. If they feel regret, it's most likely because people like you are telling them "the wrongs of their way." People who are taught that it's OK to be sexually active if they make responsible decisions regarding their sexuality do not feel regret. People who are taught a strict moral rule that it's just plain wrong to be sexually active are going to be guilt-ridden, even if they're otherwise mature enough to handle the situation.
 

Wolflmg

Member
laurathelawyer said:
I'm not interested in reading all these religious articles, but the first one cites a study about regrets among children who became sexually active at age 14 or younger. That's not surprising. I bet a lot of people who become sexually active at a very young age had early sexual experiences that were nonconsensual. This is a far cry from people who become sexually active in the range of 15-19, which is the majority of people.

It's funny that it's your attitude that actually creates the problem that you're purporting to be concerned about. If they feel regret, it's most likely because people like you are telling them "the wrongs of their way." People who are taught that it's OK to be sexually active if they make responsible decisions regarding their sexuality do not feel regret. People who are taught a strict moral rule that it's just plain wrong to be sexually active are going to be guilt-ridden, even if they're otherwise mature enough to handle the situation.
I know some, my friends sister who when she was 16 had sex and regreted having it. There are more then those articles, out there, not just the religious one. I've also have seen stuff on TV on the topic and teens ages from 15-18, that some had regreted having sex years later.

Just becasue you don't believe it or don't know anyone, doesn't me its true. There are those out there that do for whether reason they have.


But the way your putting it, is you think its okay for teens to have sex. Do you also mean it's okay for them to get pregnant or contract sexual deseaces? Protection doesn't always mean its going to work. I just hope that you wouldn't be giving the same additude towards your teenager. I was in highschool and not too long ago, it's been a few years. And I know of several girls who have gotten pregnant as the result and most of them used protection.

But if you still have your doubts, read this article its one of the many I found. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15410
 
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