Another AWOL returnee story

[ProudMom2]

May I ask you, since you are so kind with words. Shay-pari'e how the Hell do you stop someone from doing what they want..join the military or anything else for that matter when they are 23?
You sir are ignorant beyond belief and if using insults makes you feel like a MAN go right ahead... Insult me and all the others but you are but a SMALL MAN. That is IF you age a man at all.

 

[ProudMom2]

I am dune with you.
All you out there who are AWOL just read the original post and get to Fort Sill. Get it behind you.
Don't let these idiots who ramble on give you any grief. Just do what in your heart you feel is right and get the warrants off you backs. Do it sooner then later.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

I was done, but you need corrected. I knew you couldn't find your own dirty socks.
hahahahaha, probably a fat army housewive Nope! Far from it.

who because her hubby serves I said SERVED! feels like she is "apart of the military" and knows the in's and out's...I do.continue to sit at the computer and add nothing to the conversations it's what you have done best.

Ahh, did you think twice? Here I thought you called me a douche.

Nice edit job.

Bye now, I have a boat to get to the lake.

 

[ProudMom2]

Ahh, did you think twice? Here I thought you called me a douche.

Nice edit job.

Bye now, I have a boat to get to the lake.

Must be nice to live off your husband military pension and insult others who served or serve or decided not to serve because their morals would not let them. I wish I had the luxury to sit at the computer all day and just ramble, you have over 7,000 posts.. must be a lonely unhappy life, you sound SO angry..... honey get some therapy.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Must be nice to live off your husband military pension and insult others who served or serve or decided not to serve because their morals would not let them. You finially figured out I was a she! He receives no pension. He got out after six for a 150 grand a year job. I wish I had the luxury to sit at the computer all day and just ramble, you have over 7,000 posts.. must be a lonely unhappy life, you sound SO angry..... honey get some therapy. Do you often assume? I work honey. It happens to be a Sunday. My post count is because I have been a member for years. You are right on one account, I do have luxuries,.....it's called hard work and good work ethics.

All work and no play makes Johnny a dull boy. I'm off to play. I thought you were *done*. I'm happy for you and your baby. I'm just happier for the people serving that they don't have to have him next to them.

 

[ProudMom2]

As I stated you are one ANGRY WOMAN.. get help


Ithought you went to the lake with the BOAT???
Done with you

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

As I stated you are one ANGRY WOMAN.. get help


Ithought you went to the lake with the BOAT???
Done with you

You have said done twice. You may have the last word dear. If anyone needs help, it is you and your's dear. I'm not angry, I told you It makes me happy that your baby is not serving. What part of that did you not get?

You have the floor so you can tell me how angry I am again.

 

[imafake702]

Are you serious?

Shay, obviously you have entirely too much time on your hands. Go fly a kite.

 

[revere787]

still running your .....sucker ha shay parie, maybe you should learn to shut up. Thats all you do is piss people off. One thing everyone needs to remember, when people like this moron insult people, remember everyone like this person is tough over a computer. Anybody is tough over a computer or a phone.

 

[revere787]

Are you bragging b/c your husband makes 150 G a year. Thats too bad, b/c any body on this site, knows that 150 a year in san fran is not that much at all, considering san francisco is one of the top 5 most expensive cities to live in, in the country.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Are you bragging b/c your husband makes 150 G a year. Thats too bad, b/c any body on this site, knows that 150 a year in san fran is not that much at all, considering san francisco is one of the top 5 most expensive cities to live in, in the country.

150 without overtime. I guess you missed the part where I work also. Don't worry, we do fine.

I also do not live in the city. We work in the city. Yes, it is expensive, but anyone knows this is one of the best areas to own property. 320,000.00 in equity alone.

Any more questions Mr. Coward?

 

[Silverplum]

What is the name of your state? Mo


I am wanting to share about my son. He was Awol , left fort Bliss on June 4th and found his way home. He was less then 180days and in AIT training there. The reasons that he left are immaterial now. I want to say the the people at the GI RIghts Hotline are kind and have great advice. Sometimes it takes a day or 2 for them to get back to you but they will.

I called Fort Knox on July 6th and there was no packet on my son yet, he at this time had been gone 32 days. On July 24th I called his old unit at Fort Bliss and the first Sargent said he had been dropped DFR. I waited a few days and on Friday July 28th Fort Knox had his packet. We decided then to go to Fort Sill on Monday the 31st. On Sunday I called Fort Knox again just to be sure and was told again that there was a packet. I was also told there was NO Warrant... this was NOT TRUE. We went on monday to Fort Sill which is a 5 hour drive for us. We got there at 4pm, Chris was a nervious wreck and we pulled up to the gate and he told them he was awol. I guard asked me to pull the car over to the side and they asked for my sons id. They told him to sit in the car with me until a unit arrived. They took less then 2 minutes and the Fort Sill Police along with a MP showed up. They were very polite and courtious. They took my son to the patrol car , it was parked next to mine. The MP came and asked me if he had a bag, which he did, he took it from the back seat and placed it on the trunk of the patrol car. He then advised my son he was going to search it, they asked him to empty his pockets and put all his stuff in his bag. He did take extra personal underwear and toiletries like some other post had suggested. When they got ready to leave the MP told him to say goodbye and the police officer asked the MP if he was going to handcuff him and he said no. Chris road up front and off they went to the PCF. He did not get a chance to call me, I had given him a calling card, since no cell phones are allowed. I had told him I would be back on friday and for him to call me if otherwise. I picked him up yesterday at 4pm from the PCF in Fort Sill and we drove home today. He is out and will receive his DD214 in a number of weeks. He told me it was the longest most boring 4 days ever. I asked him how many guys were there, he said on Monday there were 7 and yesterday there were 30. Of the 30 I think I saw about 12 to 15 still staying there in uniform. Chris said they got there to late to be processed this week. About 15 guys left yesterday. I am not saying this will happen to all, each is different but for him it went as most posts have said.
He said that they got up and from 0500 until 2000 they sat on the bench most of the time. They would get called in the office for a interview or to fill in a paper and then told to go back to the bench. He did pull fireguard the first night. If you get there after Tuesday you most likely will be there almost 2 weeks but get there on monday and you will most likely get out on friday.
I got to fort sill and called the PCF to see what was going on and the person who answered was very polite and informed me that they were waiting for a paper he had to sign and then Chris would be ready to pick up. He advice I show up in 1 hour which I did.

Now I have read this site and if any of you have anything negative to say, DON"T...The army took a young man who all his life wanted to be in the military and killed that drive and ambition in less than 5 months. According to my son there was nothing but BS... I raised 4 men to be independent thinkers and not put up with BS.. make a decision and stick to it.. don't play games or beat around the bush... from what I have heard seems like our military needs to take a hard look at themselves to see why so many young men, who wanted to fight and defend their country, are leaving , and leaving by going AWOL.

Also for you negative people, my son is enrolled in college again and YES he has federal loans and grants helping him. He has the business plan worked out for the business he wants to open in a few years. He is fine and will be fine.

I hope this helps some of you that are AWOL and PLEASE do turn yourself in and get it behind you. If you are under 180 days or in AIT go to fort sill.
Thank youWhat is the name of your state?

Personally, I kinda hope your kid gets hit by a bus. Preferably on campus.

He's a pig and so are you for raising such a pig.

 

[badapple40]

I have a couple of points to make, because they bear mentioning:

1) A result in any one case does not guarantee that the results will be the same in any other case. Those people relying on the results in the OP's case might well find themselves in a different scenario.

2) Generally, students (basic training, AIT, tech school, etc) can get out of the military easier than can others -- for permanent party, the usual result seems to be court martial.

3) The BEST case for AWOL is a Chapter 10 case, which typically results in an other than honorable discharge. The WORST case is most likely a special court martial, 30 days brig time, and a bad conduct discharge.

If an OTH is awarded:
In terms of future repercussions: as long as the OP's son does not want a future in law enforcement, government work, or potentially politics (where the OTH is sure to be brought up), it will probably not affect him/her. If junior has ambitions for medical school, law school, or any other competitive schooling, it can be brought up again and can be a factor in admissions. Also, expect to disclose it and for it to possibly hurt for any other licensure by state or federal governments for jobs that involve the public trust (lawyer, stock broker, doctor, vet, pharmacist, etc). And a private employer CAN ask about it, and junior must report it or face termination for lying on an application. Similarly, junior can face adverse employment consequences. All VA benefits are most likely lost. I am sure, concerned mom, that you are aware that in accepting the Chapter 10 package, your son admitted that he committed a crime, right?

The nuts and bolts, however, is that this is unlikely to hurt in the long term. Most employers will not dig that deep even if it isn't reported. And most people do not pursue professions listed above (law enforcement, government work, politics, or other professions that require licenses).

The purpose of my post is not to dissuade people from turning themselves in. Rather, it is to encourage people not to break the law and go AWOL to begin with. I make no judgments about the reasons the kid went AWOL. But I do feel it is grossly irresponsible to state that this will have no impact on the kid's future, without knowing what he wants to do with his life.

 

[revere787]

thank you badapple for that information. im sure that clarifies what an oth is for a lot of people. ITs kind of you to share that , without bashing people like shay parie does.

 

[revere787]

coward

I am a coward, why is that shay parie. By the way, you work too, 320 in equity. That is so impressive, you act like equity is free money, what are you a prostitute?