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KadKad

New member
Back story: Illinois

Landlord tried to change thr date my lease ended from August to June. Lied in a letter staying i volunteered to leave in June. I never did this as 1. I never wanted to 2. Im divorced and would need my ex husband's okay to move out of state 3. I didnt have any place locally I'd be able to move to ad very low income. After I told her I'd confirmed with my attorney (I needed for the move with my son) that she could not just change thr date AND that I never said such a thing, I had till the end of my lease
I moved out August but due to many things (time, anxiety, depression, no help to pack everything, doing it solo, situation with HOA, etc), I was unable to take everything. This move was and still is very traumatic.
We reached out to her a day later (August) to go back and get what was left. (It was obvious these were not abandoned-she knew me personally). She was fine with it and we made plans to get the items on the 19th of August. Like, my step mother cancelled and rearranged clients. She started acting suspicious. Kept bringing up my attorney and accusing me of questioning the validity of her non profit (more on that later/charity tax fraud) to my step.
Then insisted that communication be through my attorney even though she'd been communicating with me outside of my attorney.
Side long story short. Lease was up August 1. She tried to say I "graciously " decided to end my lease end of June literally trying to give me only 30 days to vacate as she couldn't evict me due to the moratorium still in place. Bc I am divorced and have a child and had nowhere to go but out of state to live w my dad & step , I had to retain my attorney for leaving the state with my child. When this came up, I asked my attorney about it bc I knew it was illegal and knew bc the eviction moratorium was still in place, she couldn't evict me. And no, I was a great tenant. She crossed boundaries (demanding I tell her my exact plans for summer) and I didn't comply. It actually drove me to several panic attacks. So I told her communication should be through my attorney. Which she did not do.

Okay, so she communicates w my attorney (expenses I did not have but what could I do?) and come up w the 29th weekend of August. When plans are getting finalized she sends some contract to my attorney asking me to pay a deposit, then for deep cleaning, and for rent totaling over 2500.00. I refused bc those were all things I would've done the weekend of the 19th. Plus, the lease I signed had no deposit. There was no walk through prior to move in, etc.

She got a real-estate attorney. We requested pictures of my property to make sure everything was there. Close to 2 months later, they finally send it and I know for a fact things were stolen. She did not follow any protocol (not going through the property except to remove trash [she found an old ss card]notice, time to retrieve, and kept on saying I "abandoned" the property when I called the next day to set up a time and day to retrieve it.
I also got another storage unit to try to move things out and in there but ran out of time.

She does not want me to have access to the inside if the house though her husband said there are a few boxes inside and I have a very strong feeling my remaining property is either inside or they took it.

I know what was left IN the garage let alone what was remaining in the home and I know for a fact, there would be no space in the garage and there was enough space left in the garage to put several sofas in it.

This is also costing me a lot that I don't have and it could've been over the 22nd of August.

I also have some pictures and images of some of the property large enough to be seen but aren't in any pictures. Like my ring light, 2 oscillating fans, MANY empty totes, a twin sized bed, and so much more. Things i need to work.

I asked for pictures of the damages they were accusing me of and they sent a picture of a door hinge that had come off (‍♀) and a pre existing wrinkle in the carpet. There was no walk through prior to moving in. No deposit.

I'm having to spend money I don't have to repurchase things that I would've had at this point. Like a tv (3 in the home), computer monitor (left in the home), desk, even a new backpack for my son.

My attorney is family law so this isn't her area. This whole ordeal has taken a huge toll on me. From May till now. I also believe this whole thing has caused me to develop ptsd and I'll be seeing someone about it.

Its now October, we sent a list. We sent pictures. After they showed "proof" of my items. Both me and step mother were like yeah, thats not all of it. The attorney basically said nah, we ain't got time for that and that they are not going to show proof.
Has anyone dealt this landlord theft? Like thousands of dollars (high end items like Tiffany & Co and Hermès and tons more).
And please, before anyone comes after me saying "well you left it there". I had very limited funds, was trying to save what little money I unexpectedly had to spend, and underestimating what could fit in the container I got and could afford (and that was a crappy experience too), I HAD to leave things. I bawled that night I drove off. We'd also made arrangements 2nd week of August WITH HER so please keep that in mind. This would've been over in August but she decided to be vindictive bc I mentioned an attorney.

Original post:
Had anyone dealt with landlord theft? She just bought a 4k dollar LV bag and upgraded her suburban. And the worse of it is that she is doing this under the name of a charity and God. Any tenant attorney referrals in Illinois? Specifically DuPage County?

Sorry so long!


Anyone in Illinois know landlord protocol for if a tenant leaves property after move out (NOT ABANDONED)? I've looked it up but have only found Cook County protocol. Wondering if it would be the same thing? Landlord sends notice, gives tenant time to get items, etc.
What happens if the landlord stole property in that time?
They are refusing to submit proof that my things are there. Sent pictures and an extensive list.
They sent a picture of the garage where my things supposedly are and large items that should be visible are not there. Like 3 tvs, a twin sized bed set, head/footboard, dresser, etc. I have other valuable things there too.

It's been 3 months now and she has been stalling. We were supposed to go back in August (twice) and she stalled and stalled. This was a cross country move for me.

Was she supposed to follow some sort of protocol? My attorney is family law and I'm not sure she is pursuing this as she should.
 
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Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Anyone in Illinois know landlord protocol for if a tenant leaves property after move out (NOT ABANDONED)? I've looked it up but have only found Cook County protocol. Wondering if it would be the same thing? Landlord sends notice, gives tenant time to get items, etc.
What happens if the landlord stole property in that time?
They are refusing to submit proof that my things are there. Sent pictures and an extensive list.
They sent a picture of the garage where my things supposedly are and large items that should be visible are not there. Like 3 tvs, a twin sized bed set, head/footboard, dresser, etc. I have other valuable things there too.

It's been 3 months now and she has been stalling. We were supposed to go back in August (twice) and she stalled and stalled. This was a cross country move for me.

Was she supposed to follow some sort of protocol? My attorney is family law and I'm not sure she is pursuing this as she should.
Why did you leave property after moveout? How do you know the landlord stole property and someone else didn't? Have you been paying rent during the time your property was left there?
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Were these valuable items mentioned in your divorce?

Did you pay rent for August?
 

KadKad

New member
I did not. I was prepared to pay a prorated rent for the week or so that itd be there. Wed made arrangements to get up there the 20th and have the place cleared and cleaned up and be gone the 22nd. She kept stalling in getting back to us. Saying she was busy. Then with the attorney, we agreed to have everything out on the 29th. Then she went MIA. So we'd have had everything cleared at this point but she kept intentionally stalling. In one response to my attorney she said I could come the next day to clear the home. She knows I'm over 14 hours away, a child, and I can't just up and go there. So she's literally been the reason the things were not removed within the first 2 weeks of August. We got to IL the 1st, we called her on the 2nd and kept on using the word abandonment when everything I did (contacting her to retrieve the items) goes against the very definition of that according to Illinois laws in regarding property. She never sent notice with a time frame to retrieve my items. She just kept them hostage.
She was like a mother to me. I met her during a tough time after an abusive marriage and hard divorce, new with a child, didn't know anyone, didn't have family, and after losing my mom. Id known her for 7 years and rented from her 4 years.

She even tried to pull my friend into this and turn her against me (I have the texts and friend will gladly write a statement).

I really just want to know what the legal protocol for a landlord in DuPage County is if property is left in the home.
 

quincy

Senior Member
I would not start accusing the landlord of theft. A landlord has an obligation to notify a departed tenant that they have left property behind and what will happen to the property if not collected within X number of days - but a rental unit is not a storage unit and a landlord cannot be expected to hold onto a tenant’s property forever.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
So she's literally been the reason the things were not removed within the first 2 weeks of August.
No, YOU have been (quite literally) the reason the items have not been removed. You were given plenty of opportunity (beginning on the day you moved out), yet you couldn't do it. I get it - you've got a kid and it's hard, but thousands of people with kids manage to get moved out by the time their lease ends. You have a bunch of "you" problems that you keep trying to lay at the feet of your former landlord. I can see why she hasn't been willing to work with you.

EDIT: You failed to answer my question about these items being listed in your divorce.
 

KadKad

New member
I would not start accusing the landlord of theft. A landlord has an obligation to notify a departed tenant that they have left property behind and what will happen to the property if not collected within X number of days - but a rental unit is not a storage unit and a landlord cannot be expected to hold onto a tenant’s property forever.
Thats the thing. She never notified me.
When asked BY NY ATTORNEY to provide proof, they declined.
I'm not going to re-type out what you didn't even bother to read.

Ya'll don't seem to be reading everything Good lord.
REREAD WHAT I WROTE IN ITS ENTIRETY!

It seems like a lot of these landlord/tenant groups are flooded with people that think the tenant us in the wrong and pro landlord.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Thats the thing. She never notified me.
When asked BY NY ATTORNEY to provide proof, they declined.
I'm not going to re-type out what you didn't even bother to read.

Ya'll don't seem to be reading everything Good lord.
REREAD WHAT I WROTE IN ITS ENTIRETY!

It seems like a lot of these landlord/tenant groups are flooded with people that think the tenant us in the wrong and pro landlord.
I'll ask one more time: Were the items you are claiming were left there listed in your divorce? There's a reason I'm asking.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
I did not. I was prepared to pay a prorated rent for the week or so that itd be there. Wed made arrangements to get up there the 20th and have the place cleared and cleaned up and be gone the 22nd. She kept stalling in getting back to us. Saying she was busy. Then with the attorney, we agreed to have everything out on the 29th. Then she went MIA. So we'd have had everything cleared at this point but she kept intentionally stalling. In one response to my attorney she said I could come the next day to clear the home. She knows I'm over 14 hours away, a child, and I can't just up and go there. So she's literally been the reason the things were not removed within the first 2 weeks of August. We got to IL the 1st, we called her on the 2nd and kept on using the word abandonment when everything I did (contacting her to retrieve the items) goes against the very definition of that according to Illinois laws in regarding property. She never sent notice with a time frame to retrieve my items. She just kept them hostage.
She was like a mother to me. I met her during a tough time after an abusive marriage and hard divorce, new with a child, didn't know anyone, didn't have family, and after losing my mom. Id known her for 7 years and rented from her 4 years.

She even tried to pull my friend into this and turn her against me (I have the texts and friend will gladly write a statement).

I really just want to know what the legal protocol for a landlord in DuPage County is if property is left in the home.
You were prepared to pay a prorated rent .. however did you have permission and agreement from the landlord to do that? When did your lease end?
 
You were prepared to pay a prorated rent .. however did you have permission and agreement from the landlord to do that? When did your lease end?
And if your landlord locked you out prior to your lease end, why did you not call the police to gain access and remove your belongings?
 

quincy

Senior Member
Thats the thing. She never notified me.
When asked BY NY ATTORNEY to provide proof, they declined.
I'm not going to re-type out what you didn't even bother to read.

Ya'll don't seem to be reading everything Good lord.
REREAD WHAT I WROTE IN ITS ENTIRETY!

It seems like a lot of these landlord/tenant groups are flooded with people that think the tenant us in the wrong and pro landlord.
Even though your left-behind property was taking up space in a rental unit past your move-out date, you did not pay rent for that time as requested by the landlord. In fact, you said you refused to pay. You expected the landlord to store - for free - the items you left behind until it was convenient for you to pick them up.

It doesn’t work that way.

If you have not retrieved your property within 7 days after move-out, the landlord could legitimately claim the property was abandoned.

You cost your landlord time and money. Your landlord was tasked with clearing out the unit and re-renting the unit was delayed because of you.

I am not entirely unsympathetic to your plight but I believe that the landlord was within her rights to clear the rental of your belongings and dispose of whatever property you left behind.

You can speak to a landlord/tenant law attorney in your area to see if you have a legitimate claim against your former landlord - but, from this distance and based on what you have said, I am not seeing that you do. I could be wrong.

Good luck.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Thats the thing. She never notified me.
When asked BY NY ATTORNEY to provide proof, they declined.
I'm not going to re-type out what you didn't even bother to read.

Ya'll don't seem to be reading everything Good lord.
REREAD WHAT I WROTE IN ITS ENTIRETY!

It seems like a lot of these landlord/tenant groups are flooded with people that think the tenant us in the wrong and pro landlord.
You know what... you edited your initial post after most of us had read it. We do not reread things to see if you may have made changes to something after we have already replied to it. So quite frankly, learn to post properly.
 

Eekamouse

Senior Member
You having moved out of the unit while leaving a bunch of belongings behind in the unit is the same as you still occupying the unit. She can't rent it to anyone else with a bunch of your stuff still in it so you didn't really move out like you were supposed to.
 

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