• FreeAdvice has a new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, effective May 25, 2018.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our Terms of Service and use of cookies.

Association Formed with No Warranty Deed

Accident - Bankruptcy - Criminal Law / DUI - Business - Consumer - Employment - Family - Immigration - Real Estate - Tax - Traffic - Wills   Please click a topic or scroll down for more.

Rooty1

Member
Thank you Quincy, I shall explore your links.

In Idaho, we have:

Implied Easement by Strict Necessity
If there is no road at all to the landlocked property then an easement may be implied by strict necessity. Under this doctrine, an easement exists if there was “(1) unity of title and subsequent separation of the dominant and servient estates; (2) necessity of the easement at the time of severance; and (3) great present necessity for the easement.”9 The requirement of “great present necessity” means there is no other legal access to the landlocked property. Usually this involves proof that there are no other roads leading to the property, but it can also be proven where an existing road that serves one part of the property is incapable of serving other parts of the property due to topography.

Since the person that owns the riverbed as private property located under the bridge, that person alone still owns the bridge ... despite the quit claim deed for the bridge only (from the people who simply constructed the current bridge to the bridge association) ... assessment number assigned to the bridge only ... and the quiet title hocus-pocus court action. The bridge sits on this persons real property so he therefore owns the bridge unless HE provides a quit claim deed.

Under my theory as related to the current legal owner v. the Easement by Necessity doctrine, the unity of title and subsequent separation of the dominant and servient estates would date back to the time the current owners ancestors purchased the riverbed in the 1800s. The state owned the land, the county built the original bridge, and the ancestors purchased the riverbed from the state.

Untangling that can of worms in a court of law would be a nightmare I'd rather not undertake.

I'll read your links to see if I can glean any useful information prior to deciding how to proceed but, like you, do not believe non-association members are liable for these associations expenses.

Thank you again,

Rooty
For a look at this problematic bridge and the HOA trying to get non-association property owners to pay for it, and additional issues with the properties and bridge (including ownership issues), here are links to some of the background information:

https://forum.FreeAdvice.com/threads/rainwater-natural-flow-theory-civil-law.629458/

https://forum.freeadvice.com/threads/payment-under-duress.628001/

https://forum.freeadvice.com/threads/cause-of-action.627957/

https://forum.freeadvice.com/threads/did-county-commissioners-properly-abandon-bridge.626069/

There are a few other related threads not included here.

Rooty1, I can see how you and the other non-Association property owners could be responsible for paying maintenance fees but I seriously question how the HOA can expect you to pay taxes or insurance on (what they are claiming is) their bridge.

You should have an easement of necessity because your property would be landlocked without use of the bridge.
Hi Quincy, I read all of the links you provided but nothing speaks to my question. How can an association force non-association members to pay their bills for property taxes, federal and state income taxes, insurance, and attorney fees?

Perhaps I should post my question under contract law rather than real estate?
 


quincy

Senior Member
Hi Quincy, I read all of the links you provided but nothing speaks to my question. How can an association force non-association members to pay their bills for property taxes, federal and state income taxes, insurance, and attorney fees?

Perhaps I should post my question under contract law rather than real estate?
Your thread is best placed here because it has all of the background information.

I don’t believe the HOA can make you pay for a bridge they claim is theirs, except to pay a fee for maintenance.

Have you and the other homeowners who need the bridge consulted with an attorney experienced in easements yet?
 

Rooty1

Member
Thank you quincy. Yes, we consulted with an attorney who wants a 20K retainer. That amount is unobtainable.
 

quincy

Senior Member
Thank you quincy. Yes, we consulted with an attorney who wants a 20K retainer. That amount is unobtainable.
I suggest you search for a less-costly attorney. I don’t see this dispute ending without you and the other homeowners having an attorney on your side.
 

quincy

Senior Member
Okie dokie, thank you.
I KNOW that advice to “get an attorney” is not what anyone who comes to this forum wants to hear. They generally would not be on a legal forum if they could easily afford an attorney’s personal services.

That said, some issues are so complex that a legal forum just can’t offer what is needed - and your situation, Rooty1, has certainly shown itself over the years to be one of the more complex ones. :)
 

Find the Right Lawyer for Your Legal Issue!

Fast, Free, and Confidential
data-ad-format="auto">
Top