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Awaiting trial, but children are being hurt in process...

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lkkfit

Junior Member
I do appreciate everyone’s advice, but please don’t judge. Although it may seem “dramatic”, I’m not able to put into a few posts all of the hell he’s put us through.
His misuse of office charges were because they found he’d used their database to stalk over 300 women over the course of 3-4 years. He’s a disgusting predator, but he has also had a lot of power in our town so he’s used to getting away with everything.
He is the one that filed for full custody after we’ve had 50/50 for years. I never had any evidence or material changes that constituted going back to court. My work schedule changed and he used that as an opportunity to take me back so that he doesn’t have to pay child support, in fact he’s asking that I pay HIM child support.
I eventually offered to take zero child support from him, we’d split all expenses 50/50 if he’d take a split custody schedule, getting them every other weekend. By that point, it was more about winning for him and he refused. He thinks bc my fiancé has money it will benefit him.
I also see a few of you are questioning my fiancé’s relationship with my kids. He has become a loving figure that both of my children, but especially my daughter has needed, as wrong as you might believe that is, her therapist feels his position in our family is beneficial. NOT damaging. My ex husband’s feelings of me remarrying should not be my concern, he’s a grown man and he should be able to put those feelings aside to raise and care for our kids like thousands if not millions of other divorced men in this world do.
My fiancé has a daughter, and her mother and I have a wonderful relationship. In fact, we all go to dinner with her and her husband with their daughter often. We go to their house every year for Halloween and their daughter thrives bc of this closeness we all have.
I wish my ex and I could have this, but unfortunately he’s just not capable of it. We’ve tried, and we’d try again if we thought for a second it could make things better.

Basically, this post was mainly made to get 3 answers.
1. Has anyone else been through this where it’s taken so long? Or is this time frame totally normal? (June 2018 - present, no trial date set)
2. Has anyone dealt with an ex who mistreats your children, mostly emotionally, and has gone back to court for custody? What was the outcome? Did you feel yours and your kids’ feelings were downplayed or diminished?
3. Most of you have answered this, but my third was would keeping my kids, or at least my daughter, with me when she cries and begs not to go hurt us THAT badly in court or is it worth letting her stay so she doesn’t have to deal with the mental abuse she’s dealing with there?

I guess until you see your child scared and wondering why their dad ”hates them” (their words, not mine), you can’t really understand the predicament I’m in. And if you have been there, more power to ya, but this is HARD. When they tell their grandmother, his mom, that he hates them she just tells them “he doesn’t hate them, he just doesn’t know how to show them love”, and I think that’s the best explanation. I don’t want to take them away completely. I just want them mostly where they feel loved and secure, and I want him to get help.
 


t74

Member
It is, unfortunately. The therapist we’ve used can consult with the court appointed therapist, but she can not testify.
Can you request the court to appoint another therapist due to unavailability? Ask your attorney if a trial is scheduled if the court appointed therapist would be required to be available if subpoenaed. (I know nothing about LA law except that they are very different from everyone else in certain situations. It seems odd that the court would be looking at reports over a year old,)

In the interim, do everything you can to defuse the situation and ceertainly not do anything to aggravate it. I would also suggest you ask you attorney about getting an order for both you and your ex to have psych evaluations that could be used in court in addition to the ones with the children, You may be able to get those considered earlier than thos ordered originally. Your situation cannot be unique and the are likely workarounds to address the situation temporarily.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Yes, keeping either child from the ordered time COULD hurt THAT badly - Dad could be awarded primary custody and you supervised parenting time, in a worst-case situation. Has a GAL (Guardian ad Item) been appointed for the children? I would talk to your lawyer about it, if not.

I would still speak with a few more lawyers, to get their take on the progress of your case. You may want to go a bit further afield of where your ex works.

As for the kids... How are they doing in school? Have the teachers noticed any differences in behavior (especially during times with you vs their Dad)? Have their grades suffered during this period? Have there been discipline issues? Is there anyone at school the kids can talk to? My kids ES had a peer group for kids dealing with loss/family issues - sometimes kids find it easier to open up to their peers. Any teacher/school counselor/admin is a mandated reporter, btw. Is there a teacher your son (in particular) might be more open to talking to? A court is more likely to take reports from strangers more seriously than "family".

While our situation wasn't anywhere near what you describe (even if it's "awfulized"), what helped my two was being reminded that they always had each other (something I worked on instilling apart from their relationships with me or their Dad) - they always looked out for one another and presented a united force.
 

commentator

Senior Member
This is why I keep advising you to get counseling, to help you deal productively. Yes, dear, not only have I been there, in small town southeastern USA, I have seen it happen multiple times and in multiple situations. The problem is, that having proven vulnerable to his manipulations, having fallen under this man's influence at least for a while (you married him and had children with him) you are particularly vulnerable to the things he says and does, and the vibes and threats he puts out. That's the reason he chose you in the first place.

Now, of course, you're out, but you're brooding about it, obsessing about it, and constantly thinking about it, trying to figure out what to do, wanting to move on it, wanting to talk about it. Try to do this with a trusted advisor/counselor, NOT on the internet and with your family members and friends so much. As is his goal, he's occupying everyone's time and mind space, terrorizing, attention getting, and eating you up alive. It will hurt your chances of being able to move on productively and find happiness for yourself in new circumstances. Not to mention maintaining the respect of your children. Yes, eventually, if you don't handle this well, if you continue let your ex ride roughshod over your peace of mind and future life, they'll grow up and not respect YOU because of it. I'm old enough to have seen this play through.

Ideally, you would be able to move on maturely and proficiently and this man would find himself marginalized in your and your children's lives and thought processes. But this will take a large amount of hard work on your part. This is why I keep advising counseling FOR YOU, as well as a good attorney that you have lots of faith in. And follow their advice. OH MY YES! If you "give in" to your instinct to refuse to send your daughter for court ordered visitation, it could hurt you BADLY, and is exactly what he is hoping you'll do.

Best wishes to you. We do understand on here, believe me. And it is very hard. The advice to go a bit further afield, to consider getting away from this small place and his involvement in the local legal system might be good too.
 

t74

Member
You have been given good common sense advice by some really life smart elders. Please take it to heart.

Heal yourself before you remarry. Put your children's well being above everything. You can legally influence their lives for 18 years; what they do for the rest of their lives depends on what you do now.

Strive for peace of mind and heart. Contentment and happiness will follow.
 

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