AWOL in AIT

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I still have no idea on what to do. I really dont care about future employment. B/c all the jobs I do are not your typical jobs. But I appreciate all the info. I understand you people just want to help.

 

[Ontime]

Not sure where the thyroid comes into play in regards to depression. I guess if it were overactive that would cause weakness and fatigue especially if your T3 and T4 levels are off.

I have been diagnosed with depression.

Symptoms included low appetite, suicidal ideations, LOW motivation, seculusion, anxiety, apathy.....

Medication helped me. The CLINICALLY depressed generally have low serotonin levels. And Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors help greatly.

Being in the military its generally percieved outside the medical sector that depression is a weakness. We are supposed to be hard asses and rough and tough.

With medication management your symptoms could change and your whole outlook on life would change as well.

Walking out with anything less then an honorable discharge follows you are for the rest of your life.

Going AWOL is cowardice, if you make enough waves within your chain of command things will get done. Don't run my friend you think it may not effect you mentally in the short term but it will in the long run.


And personally you should'nt let what others think of you in getting help, whether it be your first sergeant or your C.O. or whomever. You have your own life to live and they will not be there with you for the rest of your days.

Good Luck to you

Prior Service 82nd Airborne Division Ft. Bragg, N.C.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Not sure where the thyroid comes into play in regards to depression. I guess if it were overactive that would cause weakness and fatigue especially if your T3 and T4 levels are off.

I have been diagnosed with depression.

Symptoms included low appetite, suicidal ideations, LOW motivation, seculusion, anxiety, apathy.....

Medication helped me. The CLINICALLY depressed generally have low serotonin levels. And Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors help greatly.

Being in the military its generally percieved outside the medical sector that depression is a weakness. We are supposed to be hard asses and rough and tough.

Good Luck to you

Prior Service 82nd Airborne Division Ft. Bragg, N.C.

Overactive or hyperactive thyroid causes very destinctive signs and not always depression, whereas in fact low thyroid (high T3) often presents with depression sometimes even with normal Ts levels, hopefully OP will be tested.

Since they washed out in their original MOS 89D because they could not maintain the constant ability of the profile, it might help explain, if they are both depressed and possible tyroid, why they couldn't pass the physicial requirements for their first choice of MOS. Unfortunately, being depressed or easily fatigued compromise this MOS and also lead to disqualification.
" * S: Physchiatric - (last number in the profile series) - Type severity, and duration of the psychiatric symptoms or disorder existing at the time the profile is determined. Amount of external precipitating stress. Predisposition as determined by the basic personality makeup, intelligence, performance, and history of past psychiatric disorder impairment of functional capacity.
1. No psychiatric pathology. May have history of a transient personality disorder.
2. May have history of recovery from an acute psychotic reaction due to external or toxic causes unrelated to alcohol or drug addiction.
3. Satisfactory remission from an acute psychotic or neurotic episode that permits utilization under specific conditions (assignment when outpatient psychiatric treatment is available or certain duties can be avoided).
4. Does not meet standards of "3" above.

The numerical designators generally mean a military medical evaluation of:

1. A physical profile designation of “1” under all factors is considered to possess a high level of medical fitness.

2. A physical profile designation of “2” under any or all factors indicates that an individual possesses some medical condition or physical defect that may require some activity limitations.

3. A physical profile containing one or more numerical designators of “3” signifies that the individual has one or more medical conditions or physical defects that may require significant limitations. For those applying for military service, this designation is usually a disqualification. For individuals already in the service, the individual should receive assignments commensurate with his or her physical capability for military duty, such as limited duty/assignments.

4. A physical profile containing one or more numerical designators of “4” indicates that the individual has one or more medical conditions or physical defects of such severity that performance of military duty must be drastically limited. Definitely a disqualifier for both entering the military, and for continued military service, if already in the military."


MOS. 89D: Explosive Ordnance Disposal Specialist would disqualify them for this MOS which is very demanding both physically and mentally. They are reluctant to state their new MOS but I would assume it is still one within the Ordnance Corps branch of the Army and can see why they might be depressed and why they may feel that no one would hold their less than honorable discharge against them, but it does happen, they really need to pursue medical and psychiatric attention.

Major Duties: The explosive ordnance disposal (EOD) specialist locates, identifies, renders safe, and disposes of foreign and domestic conventional, chemical, or nuclear ordnance and improved explosive devices (IED); supports VIP missions for the U.S. Secret Service, State Department, and other Federal agencies. Duties for MOS 89D at each level of skill are:

* Skill Levels
o Skill Level 1 MOSC 89D10. Researches and identifies ordnance using EOD technical publications. Detects the presence of and identifies chemical agents. Prepares and maintains EOD tools, equipment, and vehicles. Assists in operating an Emergency Contamination Control Station (ECCS) and Emergency Personnel Decontamination Station (EPDS). Assists in locating and gaining access to buried ordnance. Assists the EOD Team Leader in performing the major duties.

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Physical demands rating and qualifications for initial award of MOS. The explosive ordnance disposal (EOD) specialist must possess the following qualifications:

(1) Physical Demands Rating: very heavy

(2) Physical Profile: 111121

(3) Normal color vision.

(4) Minimum score of 105 in aptitude area GM.

(5) A security clearance of SECRET.

(6) Eligibility for assignment to a critical nuclear duty position.

(7) Eligibility for assignment to a Category II Presidential Support position per AR 380-67.

(8) Mandatory formal training. The following training must be completed prior to award of MOS 89D.

(a) Non-prior service soldiers must complete the MOS 89B course and successfully complete the MOS 89D training.

(b) In-service soldiers, with and MOS, may attend the explosive ordnance disposal specialist course and must complete all phases of training. Attendance of MOS 89B course is not required.

(9) Be an explosive ordnance disposal duty volunteer.

(10) Be non-allergic to explosives.

(11) Be able to wear M3 type protective clothing while performing mission related functions.

(12) Be a U.S. citizen.

(13) Must possess a valid state motor vehicle operator license.

Enlistment Bonus

2YR LEVEL


3YR LEVEL


4YR LEVEL


5YR LEVEL


6YR LEVEL

0


0


5000


7000


8000

MOS 89D was known as 55D before fiscal year 2005.

The major duties, physical demands, physical profile, and skill levels were obtained from Army Pamphlet 611-21.