AWOL past "following" you forever -

[HappyHusband]

What about that movie with Gene Hackman, where that fighter pilot got shot down over another country, i cant remember what its called...

Bat 21, co-starring Danny Glover.

 

[badapple40]

Let me tell you why I would not hire you (or advise a client to do so) with an outstanding, unresolved AWOL situation, and then why I would not hire you if you had resolved the AWOL absent it having occurred years ago and your demonstrating suitability:

Having an outstanding AWOL situation:
1) You could get picked up at any time, through a speeding stop for instance, and next thing I know you are not showing up to work, making you unreliable. There could be unresolved other charges as well. This is why we do not hire military folks (other than reservists) without a DD214.

2) I could not hire a person with unresolved charges against them, period. There are a lot of reasons for this. It affects insurance rates, it looks bad from a PR perspective.

And, in general, resolved or unresolved:

3) You bailed on a commitment. You broke a contract. Who is to say that you won't walk out on me when I need you most? Obviously commitments are not important.

4) You committed a crime involving a breach of trust. You stole. You promised years to the American people and short-changed them. How do I know you won't short change me, my business, or my clients?

This is probably a non-issue if you are asking "do you want fries with that?" They are used to and account for the turn-over. Fortune 500 companies that have long-term projects and need to count on people is a different story.

As I said, if someone was young when it happened, got the situation resolved, and was apologetic for the situation, I'd view the situation differently.

As for those who say "well the government screwed me, so I screwed them back," as an employer, I'd show you to the door for that comment, you wouldn't make it past 5 minutes of an interview. What happens if I don't give you the raise, or work assignment that you want. Am I then screwing you, so you'll screw me back?

As for those folks who do not view AWOL as being a crime... it is contained in a law passed by Congress, our elected representatives. There are a lot of reasons behind it, but it is the law. And when you knowingly and deliberately break the law, guess what, it is usually a crime.

I have no sympathy for the fact that, like all of the other criminals in this country, you have to live with the mistakes of your past. Maybe we should let the thiefs, murderers, and rapists or child molesters go free and no be called criminals after 10 years too. You are no less of a thief than the guy that rips off the local store. Your services belonged to the american people, and you deprived the people of those services. You deserve what you get.

 

[dallas702]

revere787;

You are just damn lucky to live in a country where you have the "right" to spew your ridiculous garbage, but it doesn't make you right...not morally or legally. Your advice is going to get young men or women in deep trouble and could ruin their lives. Since you don't seem to care about any of these offenders or the people who defend your rights, why don't you take your pathetic protest charade somewhere where it won't cause any harm...like your bathroom (if you have one).

badapple40;

Your answer should be made a "sticky" on this board so our troops don't get misled into thinking that offenses such as AWOL is like telling the manager of BK that you're not coming back tomorrow.

For all you who think AWOL isn't serious...grow up and think again. There are ways to work everything out. Running isn't one of them.

 

[thepizzaguy]

revere787;

You are just damn lucky to live in a country where you have the "right" to spew your ridiculous garbage, but it doesn't make you right...not morally or legally. Your advice is going to get young men or women in deep trouble and could ruin their lives. Since you don't seem to care about any of these offenders or the people who defend your rights, why don't you take your pathetic protest charade somewhere where it won't cause any harm...like your bathroom (if you have one).

badapple40;

Your answer should be made a "sticky" on this board so our troops don't get misled into thinking that offenses such as AWOL is like telling the manager of BK that you're not coming back tomorrow.

For all you who think AWOL isn't serious...grow up and think again. There are ways to work everything out. Running isn't one of them.

You know what Dallas you can take your redneck, hard line conservative views right to your bathroom too. I am sick of YOUR mouth. Nobody is advising anybody to do something illegal, and if they do and the moderator catches it then they will be charged with breaking the TOS. Not everyody in this country that you have reminded us of has the same ideas and views as you. People have problems, people get sick and depression is real, and the military is notorious for not giving a *&^% about them.

I agree with everything Badapple wrote also except about being AWOL should stay with you for the rest of ones life. I agree AWOL is a crime and the military is not like quiting BK job. Defending our country is a far more resposnible duty and requires dependable people who are not just going to take off when the going gets tough, but I have seen people suffer much less punisment for far more serious crimes (ie crimes of violence). As an aquatics supervisor I also would not hire a manager or lifeguard who was AWOL or has not demonstrated the ability to be a dependable employee, however I would not hold it over there head if I found it to be a youthful indiscretion, but a lot of people such as yourself don't subscribe to that open minded thinking because they have been brainwashed with the military's ultra right wing conservative bull$%^& views.

Oh and this is from a guy who voted for Bush and doesn't regret it. So don't go thinking I am some left wing bleeding heart liberal.

 

[dallas702]

thepizzaguy;

Not much I can say to add to your ignoranceand your inability to read and understand English.

 

[thepizzaguy]

thepizzaguy;

Not much I can say to add to your ignoranceand your inability to read and understand English.

Boy you hit that one right on target. You been out back with your shotgun shooting at junked cars again?