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Back from Ft. Sill. (AWOL/DESERTER)

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What is the name of your state? IN

I left on a Greyhound Bus, on the 9th of June. I told the Taxi driver I was turning my self in (He get's about 5 people a month, he says). He took me to the main gate, and I sat on a bench behind the guard buliding untill a MP arrived. I was not put in handcuff's, but I know some was. Just depends on the MP. I answered some questions from the MP, and sat in the front of his car. He was very nice, and we even chitchatted about various things.

I arrived at the PCF on Monday, around 8PM. They searched my bag, and took away my extra cash and cell phone. Then one of the civilians briefed me. They tell you, you will be there 2-4 weeks, but thats BS. It is very lax there. You will spend most of your time sitting on a bench, and doing little details. I mowed alot of grass, which is fine by me cause I got tired of sitting on that bench. When you talk to the Civilians, it's yes sir, no sir, at parade rest. They are pretty nice, if you do what you are told. If you are bad, you get extra fireguard shifts, and your paperwork can be lost. You will probably have two fireguard shifts why you are there, 1hr each. You sit at the end of the hallway, shining your boot's. Yes, you wear BDU's why there. They will cut your hair, on one of three day's. Monday, Wensday, and Friday. Basic style. You get free time between 8PM-10PM, and you can use the pay phone and where your civilian clothes during this time. You can smoke anytime you are outside, pretty much. Bring lot's of smokes with you, because people will want you to share. I don't smoke but many people there did. You go to the chow hall 3 times a day, at 8, 1, and 6. You are the last to eat, because they do not want the soldiers talking to you. You are not supposed to talk in the chow hall. The civilians never really jump on your *** if you do something wrong, they just warn you and are pretty nice and funny about it. Like I said, it's really lax.

I was only there 5 day's, and I recommend you get there around the same time I did. You inprocess Tuesday, see ACAP Wensday, Talk to the 1st sergeant Thursday, and go see JAG Friday. We were released right before lunch. They gave people rides to the airport and bus station, and western union if you needed money.

Any question's, I will be glad to answer them.
 


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gone4tolong

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hey taken83over...I am also turning myself in this week, do you have an e-mail address or aim screen name, just so I can get a little more info about what goes on an all that good stuff thanks alot, an congrats on gettin it behind you...
 
Yes I got a OTH, all because I was afraid to open my mouth to the 1st sergeant and Jag officer's. I was afraid if I plead my case, that they would hold me longer. But, quiet a few got other types of discharges and only stayed 5 days like myself. I am just going to wait about a year, and apply for a upgrade.

A little more info.

You stay in 4 person room's, 2 bunks per room. You get a wall locker, but it's like half the size of the ones during basic and ait. You will not wear the BDU's until they cut your hair, you will just where your civilian cloths. During the night, you sleep in summer pt's, that they supply. There were only about 25 people there during my stay. I asked the escorts and they said, yes that is a pretty low number, maybe because it was close to the holiday's.

Also, I would not take your issued stuff if you have it. No one brought there stuff, and they do not ask question's about it or appear to collect it. No one ever mentioned or asked if I wanted to turn anything into a CIF. I forgot to mention you get new ID's on Thursday.

Just ask all the question's you have here, and I will answer them. It's hard to catch me on msn/aim etc... So it's just easier if you ask it here, that way everyone can learn something.
 
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did any one have to stay longer? so did you bring your military I.D. that you were issued at basic? do you know what happens if you dont have it? and when you made sure you were droped from rolls, did you ask if you had a warrant for your arrest and put into the NCIC system? I ask because they say they have a packet on me but they did not send the warrant to the NCIC yet. did they try to make you stay in the military or ask if you wanted to stay? or is it pretty much all they care about is gettin you out...sorry for all the question..im just a nerv wreck over this ..thanks for your time..
 
Yes, there were a couple who had to stay longer. But that is because they had article 15's, not tookn care of etc, or they showed up in the middle of the week, or they wanted to try to stay in the military.

Yes I brought my ID. No you really do not need it, as I talked to a girl who did not have her's. She was arrested, and never had the chance to go home and get it. After the MP's picked her up from jail, she was sent to Ft. Sill. Still was only there like a week, and they are going to issue a new ID, any how.

Yes, I called a few times to make sure I was dropped from the Rolls. I never did check and see if I had a warrant. If they say you have a packet, then you are ok to leave.

No, they did not try to make me stay or leave. They simply brief you on your legal options, and you make your own decisions. If you do not want jail time, then take the chapter. If you want to stay in, you will face UCMJ, and if you loose, you will probably get some jail time.

No problem. Ask me how ever many question's you like. I am here to help you get this behind you. I know it is difficult to muster up the courage to do. It was very tough for me.
 
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starr69

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how does he find out if he has a packet for him and what is this? does it really only take a week? is the best day to go mon.?
any info you can give me would be great. i have heard so many conflicting things. no one seems to want to tell me anything. we just want to be prepared, and find out what he is actually going to go through. thanks for your help.
 
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As long as he went AWOL from BCT/AIT, then he will be outprocessed with out a problem. If he was permenant party, meaning he graduated AIT and has a unit, then it will be up to his unit to decide what will be done. Some unit's just send them to the PCF, some ask for the PCF to send them back, where they will decide to outprocess you or not.

If he left around Christmas, then he should definably have a packet. There was a guy there, why I was there that left on Christmas Exodus. I left in February and had a packet, so he has a couple months on me.

Yes it really does only take a week, if you stay out of trouble (don't talk to the girls etc.). The best time to arrive, is on Monday, at the end of the day. I showed up around 8PM. They will inprocess him, and then he will be put on free time, then lights out is at 10pm.
 
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gone4tolong

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ok last question, how was the traveling? I notice you live in Indiana, im right next door in Illinois, so it would prob. be pretty similar. I see you took a bus there, did you take a bus back? or did you hop on a plane? I would like to just buy a round trip but I dont know if im for sure ganna beable to walk out on friday.. they dont check your I.D. or anything on the way down there at any of the stops or run your info when you purchase your ticket? im thinkin of just takin a flight down there tomarrow just to get this over with, but im still just a little curious on how all most of this stuff works..thanks
 
I took a bus there. Traveling by bus was just bad for me. Each bus I had to catch was late, one so late, that I had to get a hotel because the bus did not get me there on time to catch the next bus. Greyhound would not pay for the hotel either. I would of got to Ft. Sill on Sunday, if it was not for that. No, they don't check your ID or anything.

I took a plane back, and that was alot less stressful. It cost like $75 for the one way bus ticket to Ft. Sill from Indianapolis (I also had to pay $50 for a hotel). It cost me $200 to fly from Oklahoma City to Indianapolis. So weight your options.

Anymore questions, I will try my best to answer them.
 

rppearso

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Even if you cant get your OTH upgraded it will have little effect on anything unless you let it have an effect. Do they give you a certificate that says "other than honorable discharge" so you can frame it up, thats what I would do (as im making 100K a year) to show that the OTH is irrelavant, its how you decide to go from here that matters the most.
 
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meta474

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Were there permanent party there with you at the time? A few people here have said that ALL permanent party get sent back to their unit, whereas I heard it's only if your unit wants to court martial you for whatever reason. Was it all AIT/BCT there?
 
There was a couple permenant party people there, but most that showed up during the week, was sent back to there unit the next day. Mostly all of us were BCT/AIT returnee's.
 
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