Board going against it's Constituion and Values

[conchopearl]

"Our Social Organization is a home school association that has a Constitution and Values. Some in the membership are questioning the denial of a student to graduate and would like to petition the board members to change the graduation policy. However we need to know that we are confident that we understand the association's constitution and value and need to know our legal foot (so to speak)

Our constitution state:
It shall not in any way impinge on the rights of parents to educate their children as they believe best, but shall strive to offer advice and help as a service to families desiring assistance.

Our Values state:
We believe the ultimate responsibility for the education of children belongs to parents. Thus, we believe this is an inalienable right given by God, which the State can neither create, destroy, nor alter. Parents may delegate another to teach some of the cognitive information that children need to know, but all education must be under the control and supervision of the parents.

We believe education in the home to be the best form of education, but we recognize that many parents cannot educate at home for valid reasons, and we support the right of parents to choose the education they believe to be in the best interest of each child.
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We have a "private" school that home schoolers can attend, a student can go full time or part time. The school does not issue a diploma under the school name, students are considered home schooled and families can graduate their child as home schooler; issuing a home school diploma. (All of which is legal with the state of Texas)

The student was denied to participate in the associations graduation ceremony siting that he was not home schooled -their meaning was "schooled in the home"

Even though this family had schooled "in the home" for 10 years and when the opportunity for this school came about they place their child in the school, for 2 years of High school.
The student is being issued a home school diploma by the parents, and has been accepted into a University as a home school graduate.

We believe this denial goes against our constitution and values because the student was place into this "school" for the best interest of the child.

We think the association board going is against it's own constitution and values. Are we correct in this thinking of have we miss interpreted?"

 

[ecmst12]

If this is a private organization, it can do what it wants.

 

[Just Blue]

"Our Social Organization is a home school association that has a Constitution and Values. Some in the membership are questioning the denial of a student to graduate and would like to petition the board members to change the graduation policy. However we need to know that we are confident that we understand the association's constitution and value and need to know our legal foot (so to speak)

Our constitution state:
It shall not in any way impinge on the rights of parents to educate their children as they believe best, but shall strive to offer advice and help as a service to families desiring assistance.

Our Values state:
We believe the ultimate responsibility for the education of children belongs to parents. Thus, we believe this is an inalienable right given by God, which the State can neither create, destroy, nor alter. Parents may delegate another to teach some of the cognitive information that children need to know, but all education must be under the control and supervision of the parents.

We believe education in the home to be the best form of education, but we recognize that many parents cannot educate at home for valid reasons, and we support the right of parents to choose the education they believe to be in the best interest of each child.
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We have a "private" school that home schoolers can attend, a student can go full time or part time. The school does not issue a diploma under the school name, students are considered home schooled and families can graduate their child as home schooler; issuing a home school diploma. (All of which is legal with the state of Texas)

The student was denied to participate in the associations graduation ceremony siting that he was not home schooled -their meaning was "schooled in the home"

Even though this family had schooled "in the home" for 10 years and when the opportunity for this school came about they place their child in the school, for 2 years of High school.
The student is being issued a home school diploma by the parents, and has been accepted into a University as a home school graduate.

We believe this denial goes against our constitution and values because the student was place into this "school" for the best interest of the child.

We think the association board going is against it's own constitution and values. Are we correct in this thinking of have we miss interpreted?"

Why was this student denied ??

 

[conchopearl]

If this is a private organization, it can do what it wants.

But it's that not ethical - going against your associations own constitution and values?

The student was denied because they felt that the "school" he attended did not be their requirement of schooling in the home.

 

[Just Blue]

But it's that not ethical - going against your associations own constitution and values?

The student was denied because they felt that the "school" he attended did not be their requirement of schooling in the home.

Did you attend that same "school"?

 

[ecmst12]

People and organizations, generally speaking, are not required by law to be "ethical".

 

[cbg]

You see, that's your opinion - that they are going against their constitution and values. Could be they have a different opinion.

Also, I'm not seeing how denying the opportunity to participate in the graduation ceremony is a violation. The child was educated as the parents wanted, yes?

 

[conchopearl]

You see, that's your opinion - that they are going against their constitution and values. Could be they have a different opinion.

Also, I'm not seeing how denying the opportunity to participate in the graduation ceremony is a violation. The child was educated as the parents wanted, yes?

Yes the child was educated as the parents wanted, they denying the opportunity to participate in the graduation is a violation or goes against their own Constitution and values.

I don't understand how it can just be my opinion because the Constitution and values are clear.

IF the the constitution states, they will not impinge on the rights of parents to educate their children as they believe best.

and our Values state:

Parents may delegate another to teach some of the cognitive information that children need to know, but all education must be under the control and supervision of the parents.
We believe education in the home to be the best form of education, but we recognize that many parents cannot educate at home for valid reasons, and we support the right of parents to choose the education they believe to be in the best interest of each child.

No where does it state that I child must be schooled in the home. They state that they recognize that many parents cannot educate at home for valid reasons and they support that.

 

[cbg]

I see nothing in what you have posted that says the child is guaranteed to participate in graduation - only that the child will be educated as the parents wish. By your own words, that happened. The graduation ceremony is not part of the educational process.

 

[conchopearl]

I see nothing in what you have posted that says the child is guaranteed to participate in graduation - only that the child will be educated as the parents wish. By your own words, that happened. The graduation ceremony is not part of the educational process.

You are correct,

however the question is - did the board go against there own values and Constitution when they denied the opportunity of graduation.

 

[I'mTheFather]

In which part of the "Constitution" or "Values" do you see a reference to graduation?

Regardless, you are free to petition your association's board.

 

[I'mTheFather]

Just curious.... Do they allow other students to attend the graduation ceremony? Is the ceremony through the school, or is it an "association" ceremony?

ETA: Never mind, I see that the graduation is through the association. So, when you say that you have a private school for home schoolers, do you mean that the association sponsors the school? If not, then you don't have a leg to stand on, unless they have already allowed students from the school to attend the graduation ceremony.

 

[Rwedunyet]

Wait a minute.

I've been homeschooling for 14 years, and have been a member of several state and national home-school organizations. Keep in mind that I am in NC, not Texas.

What would be the advantage of having your child graduate from this association? Would he be receiving an accredited diploma? (not that an accredited diploma is a big deal, many "normal" schools dont even offer an accredited diploma, so there is no real advantage to receiving one)

Personally, I wouldnt make a big deal out of this. I'd issue the diploma that I am entitled to issue as a homeschooling parent and be done with this association.

However, IF I were to fight this, I would have to bring up that most "homeschools" are legally considered "private schools" legally and operate under many of the same conditions. I'd argue that the "school" that your child attended was no different than any of the "private schools" that school children within the confines of their own home.

I think I'd be laughed at for making that argument, though, simply based on the following excerpt from their constitution (my emphasis added): "Parents may delegate another to teach some of the cognitive information that children need to know, but all education must be under the control and supervision of the parents.

We believe education in the home to be the best form of education, but we recognize that many parents cannot educate at home for valid reasons, and we support the right of parents to choose the education they believe to be in the best interest of each child."

They plainly say that they believe that education is best IN THE HOME but will allow for SOME information to be taught outside of the home. When you enrolled your child in this school, did you have complete say-so in what text they would be using? Could you decided who taught what? and How much of their education did YOU provide in YOUR home, so that only SOME of the education was given at the school?

If you really want to pursue this, I'd contact HSLDA ( http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp?state=TX ). You can also google for a local chapter of homeschool legal defense aid in your state.

 

[cbg]

You are correct,

however the question is - did the board go against there own values and Constitution when they denied the opportunity of graduation.

I thought I had already answered that question. Based on what you have posted and what part of the values and constitution you have posted, no, they did not. IMO.

I hope that this is now clear to you.

You're welcome.