cell phone records

[ambersgrace]

genuinely trying to help those asking a question or is this one of those free for all forums where post are judged despite no one knowing a thing about the person posting?

I noticed that too! I noticed there are certain people on this site who use it as a bashing ground. I look through peoples questions and many of their replies are snarky and rude. It's really sad.

 

[Proserpina]

I noticed that too! I noticed there are certain people on this site who use it as a bashing ground. I look through peoples questions and many of their replies are snarky and rude. It's really sad.

You DO understand that this isn't a chatroom, right?

You're quickly going to alienate the very people who CAN help you, Ms ambersgrace.

 

[ambersgrace]

If you aren't an attorney what are you then to know what you are writing is true? Just curious. I see A LOT of this crap from "senior" members, but no real assistance. Do you just spend a majority of your time searching forums so that you can insult a new post cuz nothing else is going on in your lives or do you serve some real purpose? I am sure a lot of us newbies would like to know but are afraid to ask. I am not afraid to ask. So lay it on me.

Thank you for speaking up! There are a few senior members who are actually nice and helpful. But a few who choose to do what you are describing. I'd like to make a complaint. But I just don't know where/how to do so.

 

[ambersgrace]

You DO understand that this isn't a chatroom, right?

You're quickly going to alienate the very people who CAN help you, Ms ambersgrace.

Well it looks like you guys chat to each other while you joke and insult the people asking questions. I've been reading so I have seen it. Also there seems to be a lot of double standards. And you seem to interrogate the people more than you help them or give advice. Like the woman asking about terminating parental rights. Yes you were right about her not being able to do so, but the way you ask questions and respond is very rigid and rude.

 

[Proserpina]

Well it looks like you guys chat to each other while you joke and insult the people asking questions. I've been reading so I have seen it. Also there seems to be a lot of double standards. And you seem to interrogate the people more than you help them or give advice. Like the woman asking about terminating parental rights. Yes you were right about her not being able to do so, but the way you ask questions and respond is very rigid and rude.

Here's how you complain to admin:

Either hit the little exclamation point on the top right corner of a post and send it, or scroll down to "contact us" at the bottom of the page.

Complain away.

You're welcome.

 

[stealth2]

I think what icey & amber, etc. don't understand is that there are very few unique situations, at their core. When the crux of the post is, for example, "Do I have to follow the court order?", the answer is pretty much a "well, yeah!" We ask questions to find out whether there are reasons why the answer may be different. I

Additionally, it gets pretty old answering the same question over and over, when the answer is so easily found using the search feature. People who are willing to spend even a little time looking for the answer to the question they have will find that they get more help if they've at least made an effort. That whole "give a man a fish" parable, ya know?

The joking comes into play, usually, when a thread has run it's course, or when a poster is being deliberately obtuse. Then yes, seniors have enough and bring some fun.

At the end of the day, we do kind of expect that people seeking free help (a) make a modicum of effort to help themselves, (b) provide adequate information for us to provide a reasonably accurate answer, (c) not look a gift horse in the mouth by being rude to those trying to help and (d) understand that most everyone here really is only interested in what is best for THE CHILD(REN). So if you're just looking for a way to "get" the ex? May as well hang it up immediately. 'Cause we won't help you do it, and you will know that w/o a doubt.

As an aside, I know amber took offense to my post on her second thread about starting a new thread. I don't consider that rude - I consider it direct. Really, it was common sense to not do what you did, amber. And yes - I would say the same thing, in the same way, if you were standing in front of me.

 

[st-kitts]

Did they also tell you that they don't keep copies of text messages for very long?

They do keep cell phone call records - and the number that is being texted. But I'd be very surprised if they have copies of the actual text messages other than perhaps the last couple of days (which will be moot by the time you get a court order).

I (believe)I was told that when text or picture messages pass (bounce) from tower to tower during transmission they are actually stored and retained (indefinately?) and this is one of the ways that has been used to prosecute child pornography (including charges against teens that send racy pictures to one another using their phones and also using the poorest of judgement). As my source was verbal I can't guarantee it, but I seem to recall it came from an attorney. On this one I immediately concede I might be recalling things a wrong but, I certainly would urge those reading the post that send and receive texts to assume they will be retained and thus that they can be subpoenaed.

 

[mistoffolees]

I (believe)I was told that when text or picture messages pass (bounce) from tower to tower during transmission they are actually stored and retained (indefinately?) and this is one of the ways that has been used to prosecute child pornography (including charges against teens that send racy pictures to one another using their phones and also using the poorest of judgement). As my source was verbal I can't guarantee it, but I seem to recall it came from an attorney. On this one I immediately concede I might be recalling things a wrong but, I certainly would urge those reading the post that send and receive texts to assume they will be retained and thus that they can be subpoenaed.

It's easy enough to look it up:
Are Your Text Messages and Images Private? - Lawyers.com
"Also, you should know that some cell phone carriers limit how long text messages and images are stored on their computers. This could be anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. So, if you need to see this material, it's a good idea to act quickly."

In any event, find your terms of service from your cell phone provider. It will tell you how long they store messages (or if they store them indefinitely).

 

[icelyn]

And pray, what exactly have YOU contributed?

Hmmm? You're hardly a newbie. You've been here since 2005.

Like I said, folks. Uranus is retrograde.

It is almost like you are elliciting for certain responses for those of us who will bite back. Contributed? To what? I don't have an answer to cellular phone text. I don't text so why would I offer advice on a subject I know nothing about. I use a prepaid cellular phone. Have you spoken to the reps with Trac Phone and Net 10???? I cannot imagine trying to get from them telephone records as they barely understand some of the information I have asked for.

 

[icelyn]

I noticed that too! I noticed there are certain people on this site who use it as a bashing ground. I look through peoples questions and many of their replies are snarky and rude. It's really sad.

Public forum or not; "Senior" members should act more civilized. Wonder how they became "Senior"?

 

[Just Blue]

I have a Court Order in AZ. Within the "parenting" plan I am permitted telephone access to my daughter during his parenting weekends as he is permitted that same courtesy. We agreed upon designated call times. BD sent email to me confirming days and times adding he will have our daughter's cell phone on. Seems pretty simple. The Court Order is written much different than what the audio record states. Herein lies the problem. Written Court Orders appear to be up for definition depending on who reads it. Yes, yes I have Petitioned to have the Court Order read more accurately based on the audio record which reflects ALL parties present agreed that it would be our daughter's cell phone the calls were to be placed on. BD is to make child available for my calls, she is to answer the calls and in the event she doesn't answer then mom will be calling dad asking why the phone isn't being answered. We had three separate discussions Februray 17, 2011 under oath at the Maricopa County Superior Court. Along with call times being carved out there was put in place 30 minutes of talk time without interference, etc. Fast forward 9 months later and BD is denying my telephone access to our daughter. He can certainly call her when she is with me, and I instruct her to answer his call. She talks to him without interference and ALL the crap I am subjected to. He has stooped to such lengths in calling me for the sole purpose of my listening to him and our daughter interact then send a follow up email stating that I spoke to our daughter. Guess what...I recorded the conversation.

You can believe or not believe. But I am the Custodial Parent and I as much as I would like the creep to leave or deny his parental time; he sees her, speaks to her blah blah. I withheld 5 hours of parenting time because a Forensic Investigation was going on regarding him kissing her inappropriately on the lips AND I get threatened with jail time and being in contempt. So you will need to excuse me for being a wee bit pissed off when senior members on public forums feel like they need to bash others of us who are actually following Court orders. There is no stupid question, but there appears to be a multitude of stupid a$$ commentary. I may not be a newbie but if you look at my posts....there are few. So unless you have some real genuine constructive advice for those of us seeking solutions...get over yourselves and STOP having "fun" and another's expense.

Post your own thread.