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hollidaz1984

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thats fine humus your advise is weak on this board anyway
IMO: I believe you’re biting off more than you can chew. You came on here asking for advice and when someone offered it you got uptight.


I have learned from reading on here that if you want help don't get snotty with the seniors. (DO NOT decide that getting snarky with senior members or more senior than you members is the way to go. IF you are here any length of time you will earn our respect (hopefully) and you will find that we senior members know our stuff. We disagree at times but we don't get rude, arrogant and name calling. If you however as a new member decide to get rude with us, all bets are off. Quote: "Newbies Read Before Posting)
 


futuredust

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futuredust

cops have been out 4 times and CPS twice. If i had left so much as a scratch i would have been in jail. i have called 911 twice and she has ran out the driveway to call the cops.

all 4 times the cops responded and no one was arrested because in there words it was mutual with no marks or someone would go to jail.
I seriously could care less how many times anyone, including the Pope, came to visit.

What I find interesting is that you never claimed you did not abuse/hit your wife/ex-wife.. whatever.. You can only say you did not leave a mark.

Where was the child during these "no scratches or marks" situations?
 

outhouse

Member
1rst time cops were out she ran into me as i was in the doorway and as she ran into me i pushed her back. this happened 6-7 times. police said i was defending myself

second time i called because she was trying to rip baby from my arms in a hysterical state while baby was sleeping on me while i was laying on the couch. i pushed her back with my foot and she fell backwards. called police and again no charges.

third time she hit me 20 plus times [last 10 blows closed fist] and i slapped her to get her to stop. this time cops showed and CPS. CPS warned me about possible allegations to gain custody are common and told me next time do not play her game or we cant help you, if it happens again just call 911 and do not defend or fight back then we can back you.

forth time 6 closed fist blows all i did was turn my head block with arms and call 911 as directed by CPS.

you might say she has a violence issue [i do say]
 
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Silverplum

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One of the primary things we do here is help folks figure out if they can act as their own attorney.

I'm going to do us all a favor and kill it now: You are NOT capable, IMCO, of repping yourself in court. Hire an attorney.

That is all.
1rst time cops were out she ran into me as i was in the doorway and as she ran into me i pushed her back. this happened 6-7 times. police said i was defending myself

second time i called because she was trying to rip baby from my arms in a hysterical state while baby was sleeping on me while i was laying on the couch. i pushed her back with my foot and she fell backwards. called police and again no charges.

third time she hit me 20 plus times [last 10 blows closed fist] and i slapped her to get her to stop. this time cops showed and CPS. CPS warned me about possible allegations to gain custody are common and told me next time do not play her game or we cant help you, if it happens again just call 911 and do not defend or fight back then we can back you.

forth time 6 closed fist blows all i did was turn my head block with arms and call 911 as directed by CPS.

you might say she has a violence issue [i do]
 

Humusluvr

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Ca

ex wife tried to steal my child, freedom, house, money and possesions. not light charges either.
Starts out crappy.

she accused me of spousal rape and watching porn in front of our 2 year old and got a TRO and filed the next morning out of anger for a PRO.
I would be angry too. Crap.

it all backfired on her, it all started with me calling 911 for her hitting me and while the police were here and i would not file charges [thinking about the baby] and i didnt want a TRO so after the police being there for 2 hours in the middle of he night and neither party would leave the house the police baited her with the spousal rape charges and she bit, cops got the her TRO and i had to leave.
It sounds like you are dangerous.

cops have been out at the house 3 other times for DV no one has ever been arrested or charged because she starts the violence i defend myself and she runs for the cops trying to use that against me and fails cause i never left a mark or scratch on her.
The fact that you have the cops coming out to your home so often says that you are involved in some pretty serious crap.

using the TRO i didnt see my daughter for 3 weeks till court when i got supervised visitation one week later i got into emergency mediation.
You sound dangerous.

what a relief that was. the wife was there first and blew it in front of the mediator letting the baby play with a choking hazard and letting the baby cry without doing anything and not wiping snot off her face for 20 minutes. no real biggie in the courts eyes but it sure pissed off the mediator. when i saw her/mediator she baited me with choking hazards for the baby and i passed her little test and i was all about the best for the baby during the whole mediation experience.
Sounds like you're BOTH craptastic parents who are more worried about yourselves than that poor child. Grow up.

she reversed everything, she reccomended to the court ex gets supervised visitation 3 days a week 2 hours a day and that she has to go to a phyc evaluation and a 1 year parenting class .
You need a longer parenting class.

in court the judge adopted the mediators reccomendation, after the wife waisted 2000 bucks on a lawyer and he did nothing for the money i meen nothing.

1 week before court [the good part for me] a letter comes saying DA is charging the wife with 3 counts of child endangerment!
OH HOW FREAKING GREAT FOR YOU!!! To be HAPPY about child endangerment charges? Sicko.

1 from june when she left the baby in the car alone with the engine running and went in the store and got ratted off and police and CPS showed up.
and you did nothing? Crap.

the other 2 counts from the night she started the fight and threw a PC monitor on the ground and started punching me with the baby present. since i called 911 while she was still hitting they say i didnt do anything wrong.
Why do you go near each other? YOU LIKE DRAMA. You're an idiot.

so instead of me going to jail for 10 years for rape [never ever happened all lies to gain custody] she is in hot water. she,s not taking the baby away for 4 years either. she,s not getting the house because it was a rental before marriage [im home now :)]. shes not getting any money for CS because i have custody. she did how ever get a moveing van and clean the house out of all possesions gained during marriage and a few that were mine before. I use craigs list and replaced everything, did get a loan and buy a new TV and PC though. [better then before :)]
You seem awfully happy for someone in such a repugnant situation. That's crappy of you.

still going through court and they have us enrolled in the step program for high profile divorces.
Why are YOU high profile?

im confused my lawyer says that wife may be able to get %50 legal and %50 custody if she plays her cards rite in about 1- 2 years
She may not need to wait.

i would think that with 3 counts child endangerment [if she is convicted] would be a slam dunk for me to be the CP.
Life is never a slam dunk.

i cannot for the life of me figure out what the punishment will be??? but im guessing a $1000 fine, 1 year child abuser classes, 4 years proabation and possibly a 4 year RO for the baby. plus/possible jail time. now that guess is for 1 count not 3!!!!
Only a judge knows.

any ideas or thoughts are welcome.
I think you're a crappy person.

kinda of like a phoenix i came from the ashes to fly. all because of a vindictive menataly ill wife. [her dad was diagnosed paranoid scitz] and shes on meds for her own undiagnosed mental condition]
You aren't a doctor. You're an idiot.

I read the whole thing. And I think its horrible, especially for your child to be raised this way. Surrounded by crap.
 

outhouse

Member
now if you would have read i did indicate that i have a lawyer ATM. i dont know how long i will or can afford it though.

based on a 1 thread you can give that kind of advise with such limited knowledge of me?

how i act in a open forum and in court are just a little different.

i love how people instead of helping the OP just jump rite in and fuel the fire becasue a senior member/s cant read proper without giving advise and then on top make accusations.

family law is tough because of the gray areas and how the judge rules upon said gray areas. putting your child first before yourself is something most dont grasp.

i did not come in this forum to argue, i came to learn more and after 3 months i tell this community my side of the story hoping to gain some insight.

what i have recieved here is words like crap, if he,s telling the truth and some general dought. plus a few seniors that dont even read everything before giving advise. i could have had this kind of fun at divorcesource. i liked that attitude here better yeesh
 

Silverplum

Senior Member
Yes, it's easy to read people, especially through their writings.

You will portray yourself the exact same way in Court that you have portrayed yourself here.

By the way, when you complain that you think we have not "read" your posts, you may want to consider that:
A.) We are volunteers.
B.) You can leave anytime.
C.) We've read plenty.
D.) The Court is even less interested than we in your, er, "thoughts" and "writings."

now if you would have read i did indicate that i have a lawyer ATM. i dont know how long i will or can afford it though.

based on a 1 thread you can give that kind of advise with such limited knowledge of me?

how i act in a open forum and in court are just a little different.

i love how people instead of helping the OP just jump rite in and fuel the fire becasue a senior member/s cant read proper without giving advise and then on top make accusations.

family law is tough because of the gray areas and how the judge rules upon said gray areas. putting your child first before yourself is something most dont grasp.

i did not come in this forum to argue, i came to learn more and after 3 months i tell this community my side of the story hoping to gain some insight.

what i have recieved here is words like crap, if he,s telling the truth and some general dought. plus a few seniors that dont even read everything before giving advise. i could have had this kind of fun at divorcesource. i liked that attitude here better yeesh
 

outhouse

Member
why wouldnt i be happy humus. a lieing violent wife tried to steal everything from me my child, freedom, house, money and property. after having my child taken from me by the courts on a loosly file TRO and once in court and my story is finaly heard i get %100 custody sole legal and physical. i should be sad that i now have my daughter after the courts wrongfully take her away.

you are a idiot to base anything real on what i have written. you hear a summory of what happened and try to justify a in depth analytical responce out of anger because of words in a forum.

if you knew anything about laws [you dont] reguarding RO,s you would know they grant them without any proof at all! and anyone can get one for just about any reason, yet you state you think i sound dangerous. the only danger here is the people that take your advise.

you have no call to even mention my parenting skills as no real details were mentioned of anything [presumtive at best you are]

i would continue to argue with you but i dont argue with stupidity

i was put into a bad situation because i married a girl who kept her mental condition hidden with heavy medication. i have been put through hell because of this exuse me if i made a mistake going through hell. the Baby and I are the victim,s so i can take your ill advise. and if im happy that my ex is finaly getting hers for trying to ruin me so be it. its nice to see the bad person finaly get theres
 

outhouse

Member
understood silverplum

anything i have ever thought was important is not in the courts eyes. as a matter of fact like YOU they dont know what i think or even care about it nor do they care about me in any way like YOU.

like me however they do care about the baby and thats what is important and for that i like and respect the justice system.

im fighting against a child abuser for the benifit of the child. yes i want custody but i have never denied visitation allthough the ex had when she wore those shoes.
 

Isis1

Senior Member
why wouldnt i be happy humus. a lieing violent wife tried to steal everything from me my child, freedom, house, money and property. after having my child taken from me by the courts on a loosly file TRO and once in court and my story is finaly heard i get %100 custody sole legal and physical. i should be sad that i now have my daughter after the courts wrongfully take her away.

you are a idiot to base anything real on what i have written. you hear a summory of what happened and try to justify a in depth analytical responce out of anger because of words in a forum.

if you knew anything about laws [you dont] reguarding RO,s you would know they grant them without any proof at all! and anyone can get one for just about any reason, yet you state you think i sound dangerous. the only danger here is the people that take your advise.

you have no call to even mention my parenting skills as no real details were mentioned of anything [presumtive at best you are]

i would continue to argue with you but i dont argue with stupidity

i was put into a bad situation because i married a girl who kept her mental condition hidden with heavy medication. i have been put through hell because of this exuse me if i made a mistake going through hell. the Baby and I are the victim,s so i can take your ill advise. and if im happy that my ex is finaly getting hers for trying to ruin me so be it. its nice to see the bad person finaly get theres
i'm going to give you an example of what humus is saying that you are failing to see.

the NCP in my case, is a child abuser. has no remorse. thinks it's not big deal to take anger out on a child. he thinks it's no big deal to expose our two boys around criminal offender through gang violence. he thinks no big deal of those same delinquients to regal their stories to our boys. he thinks it's no big deal to allow them to be exposed to drug abusers.

personally, when he lost custody two years ago, when a restraining order was placed on his family, i thought it was sad because this meant the father picked everyone else over his children and my boys one day, would realize that. that's sad. it's not a victory. i have to protect my children. it's sad that i have to protect my children from their own father.
 

outhouse

Member
Isabella theres only a handful of people i respect or would take advise from in this forum and your one of them.

i was happy in this post because i was giving a summory. in general and ive posted this in other forums. [there are no winners here] and i do understand what humas ment and said. he went to far from the get go

i was happy to come to a new forum and share what ive been through and yes i did keep the happiness up. [probably not the best time explaining things in front of people who dont know me at all]
 
Look, "dude". bottom line is, you and your wife both need to get help.
bottom line is a child who is seeing all this violence will grow up to replicate the situation and so the pattern repeats.
You should NOT be excited that there is an endangerment against your child by the childs OWN MOTHER.

You should feel sad, worried, even hurt for your child, but not GLAD!

And, I can say, from the mental professional standpoint, if you wife was so heavily medicated..uh, you'd know it.

And the two medications you listed, are for depression and anxiety, do not equal heavily medicated!

You cannot "hide" a mental illness. :rolleyes:

You chose to create a child with this woman you deem as a monster, she was good enough to poke(can I even say this on here?) so you need to respect your childs mother.

Please get counselling. Please please.
 

Isis1

Senior Member
Isabella theres only a handful of people i respect or would take advise from in this forum and your one of them.

i was happy in this post because i was giving a summory. in general and ive posted this in other forums. [there are no winners here] and i do understand what humas ment and said. he went to far from the get go

i was happy to come to a new forum and share what ive been through and yes i did keep the happiness up. [probably not the best time explaining things in front of people who dont know me at all]
as much as i appreciate the compliment, i knwo what i know and i'm learning what i know from those same seniors you may or may not respect. everyone here has their own two cents to add. with each two cents, i've got more then a few dollars worth of common sense.

and final note. only because this is driving me nutts....in regards to Humus, Thomas Beatie is STILL the only man to give birth (wink wink)
 
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