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stealth2

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For the mother that leaves her three at home alone, with the 10 or 11 yr old watching the 14 or 18mo. old-- not to be judgmental-- but have you stopped to think about what would happen if that baby got something caught in it's throat and stopped breathing? Responsible or not, 911 or not, no one would have the time to get there before that precious child died! Then how would that other precious child feel? That's way too much to put on her shoulders. It may seem innocent enough, but children need to be just that- children. I know it's sometimes inconvenient to take our kids with us when we have to run a few erronds, but ladies, let's face it, life ain't ever going to be easy and those precious gems are all we truly have in life that love us unconditionally. What would you do if something happened to them? What would you do to get them back? But you couldn't because it'd be too late- they'd be dead and we'd be alone, all because it wan't convenient, or because we didn't want to upset someone. Lady, if your ex-husband has already been pulled over and gotten 2 DUI's then he has a true problem and you'd be in sane not to do something about this. He's not going to fix this and of course he's not going to talk to you about it! He has a problem!!! Do you not have a clause in your divorce where if you have major disagreements then you have to have a mediator???? If not, perhaps you need to speak with a lawyer, or go to your public library and look in your state's reference books about the custody laws and see what your rights and responsibilities are---- but just a little piece of information for you. Say, your husband leaves them at home alone and you have knowledge of this and something happens to one of them and one of them dies- you can be prosecuted for aiding and abedding because you had knowledge that they were being abandoned and did nothing to stop it. You have resources- USE THEM!!!!! If nothing else, call children family services on him! Or tell him they you will not let him see them again until he signs an agreement that states that he will not leave the children at home alone again, and have it notarized (you can find this form in one of the reference books in the library) Remember that these are your children and if he loves them like he should then he will have no problem signing, and if it's a power issue then stand your ground!!! The worse he could do is to hire a lwyer and take you to court and that would be the BEST thing that could possible happen in your case!!!!! That way, he has to pay for the court costs and you can make it where he has to pay for your attorney and it can be documented that he has a drinking problem and therefore is endangering your children's lives by leaving them at home unattended to. This could possible result in him having supervised visits if he shows his butt in court, or at best, make him not drink as much (or maybe even not at all when the kids are there). But learn how to stand your ground!! If you keep letting him run over you and those babies, someone is going to get hurt, and it won't necesarrily be physically. A child can be mentally abused by having an absent father, or a present father with an addiction- is that what you want for your children? You sound like a wise woman or you wouldn't be on here asking what your rights are in the first place. Stand your ground and stand up for your children!!! Your children aren't trophies that are for showcasing purposes- they need love and affection in order to function a normal life--- help them achieve that!
There is so much wrong in this post, it's untrue. OP - please understand that the suggestions offered here are simply wrong, from a legal perspective.
 

Ohiogal

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For the mother that leaves her three at home alone, with the 10 or 11 yr old watching the 14 or 18mo. old-- not to be judgmental-- but have you stopped to think about what would happen if that baby got something caught in it's throat and stopped breathing? Responsible or not, 911 or not, no one would have the time to get there before that precious child died! Then how would that other precious child feel? That's way too much to put on her shoulders. It may seem innocent enough, but children need to be just that- children. I know it's sometimes inconvenient to take our kids with us when we have to run a few erronds, but ladies, let's face it, life ain't ever going to be easy and those precious gems are all we truly have in life that love us unconditionally.


NIce sermon.

What would you do if something happened to them? What would you do to get them back? But you couldn't because it'd be too late- they'd be dead and we'd be alone, all because it wan't convenient, or because we didn't want to upset someone.

None of these has anything to do with the law but you are laying a nice guilt trip. Things can happen when mom is home with the children as well.


Lady, if your ex-husband has already been pulled over and gotten 2 DUI's then he has a true problem and you'd be in sane not to do something about this. He's not going to fix this and of course he's not going to talk to you about it! He has a problem!!!

Good for you to tell her that SHE has to do something about HIS problem. She cannot control him. She cannot dictate what he does. The time for her to complain about the DUIs was before the court awarded visitation to dad. And DUIs do NOT make dad unfit to be a parent.



Do you not have a clause in your divorce where if you have major disagreements then you have to have a mediator????

This is a difference in parenting styles. Nothing more, nothing less. Mom has no right to dictate to dad that he cannot leave the oldest with the two youngest if he deems the child mature.


If not, perhaps you need to speak with a lawyer, or go to your public library and look in your state's reference books about the custody laws and see what your rights and responsibilities are----

Her rights are to parent her children when they are with her. Her responsibilities are not to be a control freak and try to override dad's decision when the kids are with him. And she also must follow the court order.


but just a little piece of information for you. Say, your husband leaves them at home alone and you have knowledge of this and something happens to one of them and one of them dies- you can be prosecuted for aiding and abedding because you had knowledge that they were being abandoned and did nothing to stop it.

BULL ****! And how do you abed something? Is that when you put the children to bed so they can go to sleep. She cannot be arrested for aiding and abetting unless she helps someone commit a crime. But nice horror story you are telling.


You have resources- USE THEM!!!!! If nothing else, call children family services on him!

And family services won't do much if the children are healthy and not abused. They weren't abused and weren't neglected in this instance.


Or tell him they you will not let him see them again until he signs an agreement that states that he will not leave the children at home alone again, and have it notarized (you can find this form in one of the reference books in the library)


Sorry but she cannot do this. She has a court order to follow. A notarized agreement means nothing but if she tried what you are suggesting she could find herself on the WRONG END of a contempt lawsuit. So your advice is ILLEGAL. Does the word EXTORTION mean anything??? Keep this up and you WILL NOT be posting on this board.

Remember that these are your children and if he loves them like he should then he will have no problem signing, and if it's a power issue then stand your ground!!!

Again -- BULL ****! He may love his children but loving his children does not mean he has to agree with his ex wife on EVERYTHING she says he must do. The power issue here is on your part.



The worse he could do is to hire a lwyer and take you to court and that would be the BEST thing that could possible happen in your case!!!!! That way, he has to pay for the court costs and you can make it where he has to pay for your attorney and it can be documented that he has a drinking problem and therefore is endangering your children's lives by leaving them at home unattended to.

Would you like to know what is wrong with this paragraph? The best thing to happen in this case -- she could lose custody for trying this stunt that you stated she try. She could be found in contempt and fined. She would end up paying dad's legal fees and the court costs. And her saying it is true doesn't make it so. Even if dad has two dui's the worst the court is going to say is he is not allowed to transport the children while drinking or neither one of them can drink while the children are with them. He is not endangering the children -- he taught them who to call and that is what is required of children home alone. That they have a basic understanding of what to do in an emergency and basic safety for the babysitter. Which the oldest was.


This could possible result in him having supervised visits if he shows his butt in court,

Or could result in OP losing custody of her children to dad for trying to dictate how dad should parent.


or at best, make him not drink as much (or maybe even not at all when the kids are there).

Wrong. You cannot make someone not drink as much. And no one knows HOW MUCH this man drinks.

But learn how to stand your ground!!

Learn the law before opening your mouth!

If you keep letting him run over you and those babies, someone is going to get hurt, and it won't necesarrily be physically. A child can be mentally abused by having an absent father, or a present father with an addiction- is that what you want for your children?

Good grief. You are an idiot. You are now accusing this man of abuse?

You sound like a wise woman or you wouldn't be on here asking what your rights are in the first place.

You sound like a blathering idiot who is ranting about things that are legally incorrect.


Stand your ground and stand up for your children!!! Your children aren't trophies that are for showcasing purposes- they need love and affection in order to function a normal life--- help them achieve that!
Ummm.... yeah whatever.
You really need to learn about the law and how things work. YOu need to understand that if you keep spewing this bs that you are NOT going to last long on this site because you are giving advice that can get the OP in serious trouble with the courts and in effect cause her to lose custody.
 
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MrsK

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Honestly, I wouldnt leave my 11 yr old home with younger siblings unless it was an emergency or something like I'm going walking down the street so I'm about 5 minutes from my house.

So I would be concerned, too.

But, are there min age requirements for that in your state? There usually arent (I know my state doesnt have them) so you may be hard pressed to really have anything done about it.

You could consult with an atty about your chances of getting the court to tell dad he cant do it, but honestly, other than that...I dont know if you can do much.

Sorry. I would be really, really upset if my ex left my sons alone at that age. It doesnt make any sense why he couldnt have gotten a babysitter for them, even if they are responsible. So much could go wrong.
 
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