China or US, which country has more justice regards to divorce?

[Proserpina]

Hmm thats contrary to some advice I got earlier about leaving the nation, I think the pharisies on here might want to at least be consistant.

Do you ever actually read the posts prior to responding? Seriously?

(That'd be "Pharisees", btw)

 

[Zigner]

Hmm thats contrary to some advice I got earlier about leaving the nation, I think the pharisies on here might want to at least be consistant.

Are you saying that you posted a question relating to your husband and a situation involving Chinese vs. American law?

 

[Isis1]

i made i think to the second paragraph. was there really a court order requiring mom to get a job??

or did it say "should" get a job?

 

[Just Blue]

It's a long story, not expectiong you read all. But in China the one who has stable income and house has the kids. The one who has affair during marriage has no right to get half of property. The one has not right to get the other's property before marriage. I call this justice and China do have more justice.

Then move to China.

 

[vikkilui]

Poor you, have you ever been to China?

I don't think you ever been to China, and that's why you have so much false information about China, even the information is true, and you focus on it and magnified it. A lot Americans who never been to China still think China as the time during Cultrue Revolution, and have no idea how dissapointed when Chinese travel here, everywhere looks more like countryside in China. City here is like a county in China. I don't mean US is not good and I admit enviorment here is good, it's convinent to travel around here. Most of people I met here are high-qualified and nice.

If I had a choice, believe me, I'd like to live in China with my husband, but he'd be put in jail if he quit his job and he can't leave his other 3 kids. The best job I got was a general manager of a display phone factory with over 1000 employee in China, but the only job I got till now is a cashier in Wal-mart.Don't you think I miss my life before? We all have to make sacrifice if we love some one, don't we?

 

[Proserpina]

I don't think you ever been to China, and that's why you have so much false information about China, even the information is true, and you focus on it and magnified it. A lot Americans who never been to China still think China as the time during Cultrue Revolution, and have no idea how dissapointed when Chinese travel here, everywhere looks more like countryside in China. City here is like a county in China. I don't mean US is not good and I admit enviorment here is good, it's convinent to travel around here. Most of people I met here are high-qualified and nice.

If I had a choice, believe me, I'd like to live in China with my husband, but he'd be put in jail if he quit his job and he can't leave his other 3 kids. The best job I got was a general manager of a display phone factory with over 1000 employee in China, but the only job I got till now is a cashier in Wal-mart.Don't you think I miss my life before? We all have to make sacrifice if we love some one, don't we?

If we are choosing to make a sacrifice, perhaps we should do so without complaining about it later.

Now, why exactly will your husband go to jail for quitting his job?

 

[Proserpina]

Blue Meanie :

I don't think you ever been to China, and that's why you have so much false information about China, even the information is true, you focus on it and magnify it. Do you know that to stop plastic polution, the government made law that the customer had to pay for the plastic bag in the store they use to pack their grocery, but what US is doing?people stopped to use paper bag and has free plastic bad when they shop in big store like Wal-mart. A lot Americans who never been to China still think China as the time during Cultrue Revolution,that's really sad. We have a idiom for that kind of person_a frog in a well, who thinks that's how big the sky is! Try to spare time to travel to China and try to find the kids who is working 16 hours a day. I wish you good luck to find any.

If I had a choice, believe me, I'd like to live in China with my husband, but he'd be put in jail if he quit his job and he can't leave his other 3 kids. The best job I got was a general manager of a display phone factory with over 1000 employee in China, but the only job I got till now is a cashier in Wal-mart.Don't you think I miss my life before? We all have to make sacrifice if we love some one, don't we?

I'm not American (I know you were addressing Blue, but wanted to point that out) and I've been to China not once, but twice - for fairly long periods (eight weeks the first time, twelve the second). Like I said in my earlier post massive (and excellent) steps have been taken, but there IS still a problem with child labor.

I have no reason to lie, or exaggerate, or magnify the facts. It is what it is.

But to get back to your point - could you elaborate on the jail issue? I may have missed it in the original post, but I'm very curious about that.

Thanks.

 

[vikkilui]

If we are choosing to make a sacrifice, perhaps we should do so without complaining about it later.

It's ok to understand it as complaint, but also I want to know american law better, where's the justice for the divorced man?
Now, why exactly will your husband go to jail for quitting his job?

Child support. His lawyer told him he can't quit his job and not pay child support, he'd be put in jail.

 

[ecmst12]

Possible, but unlikely. There would be other consequences to failing to pay support. He made the kids, that means he gets to pay for them.

 

[Proserpina]

Child support. His lawyer told him he can't quit his job and not pay child support, he'd be put in jail.

Well, the law is that two parents are expected to support their child/ren. Neither parent will be forced to get a job - but any parent who is willfully under employed or unemployed can expect a judge to impute them a wage (in other words, act as if the non-working parent earns at least a minimal wage and include that in the decision). If this doesn't happen, the paying parent can ask the judge to do so on a later date.

Now, what you've said here makes sense - if he voluntarily quits, doesn't get another job and refuses to pay he'll eventually likely end up in jail and rightly so. Do you think just because Mom won't work that it's ok for Dad not to work?

And what is Dad doing about all of this?

 

[Ohiogal]

Lets talk facts:


Regarding children and child support:
China's Population Laws Threaten Baby Girls, Favor Boys


China's Divorce Problem - The Tech which states:

The divorce rate in China, at 1.94 per 1,000 marriages in 1997, is low compared to those in Western nations, according to The Economist. But the rate is increasing steadily.

Most divorced mothers in their late thirties are stripped of the custody of their children. If the family home is a benefit of the father's job, then the child's mother will find herself homeless. Unlike Western society, Chinese fathers are usually given custody of the children because they have more favorable economic conditions in which to raise children and are aided by their new young wife. Custody is also given to the father in light of Chinese values - the importance of children carrying on the father's family name.

Also see: China Divorce, Prenuptial, Separation, International Family Law

Oh LD we can't educate the OP on facts because that would make us Ugly Americans? Talk about being a bit Ugly yourself. Except your ugliness is directed at those of us trying to educate.

Ignorance is bliss and that is where we should leave OP? Okay. She can be blissful with the perfect law.

 

[vikkilui]

Now, what you've said here makes sense - if he voluntarily quits, doesn't get another job and refuses to pay he'll eventually likely end up in jail and rightly so. Do you think just because Mom won't work that it's ok for Dad not to work?

And what is Dad doing about all of this?

He can't quit his job because next job he get might not be paid as this one, namely he might not be able to pay so much child support as he does now, which is unacceptable. Of course if he could get a better job and could pay more child support, it would be different story.

I never thought mom won't work, then it's ok for dad not to work. Either one should take his/her responsibility to take care of the kids. To me, it just look like some American women are using kids to make a living and I really feel sorry for the kids. Being a mom, i am working hard to give my daughter the best I can.


Like I said in the post, he does not talk much about it unless I ask him, and he might complaint a little. He knows his EX is a big liar, she is using the kids' money on her, but he would not show the evidence to the kids how their mom lied, he never talked one bad word about their mom to them( I do respect him for not doing so, even I already noticed their mom did say a lot bad thing about him, including she divorced him for the kids goodness). He is not doing anything to fight back or revenge, he said he would not let hate full his heart and lower himself as her. She is punishing herself because of her character(very paronoid and jealous person).

 

[vikkilui]

There are always good and bad things happening all over the world

An idiom says"there are all kinds of birds in a big forests",namely there are good and bad person in this world. Even the China government made law about employee's age and how long they are allowed to work a day, the lowest salary and salary of extra time, there's always some one who'd take the risk and do something illegal. It's no difference than some American employers hire illegal immigrants to work, because they are cheap labor. Or like what I watched in a show, some Americans went to Thailand and have sex with little kids, Both Americans and people in Thailand know it's illegal, but they still do it.

Like some one said here already, there's always 2 side story. For example when some one support those who want independent in Tibet, do they know that before the liberation, Tibet was still in Slavery system and most people were slaveries before liberation, an adult humban being was even cheaper than a horse?

 

[Proserpina]

An idiom says"there are all kinds of birds in a big forests",namely there are good and bad person in this world. Even the China government made law about employee's age and how long they are allowed to work a day, the lowest salary and salary of extra time, there's always some one who'd take the risk and do something illegal. It's no difference than some American employers hire illegal immigrants to work, because they are cheap labor. Or like what I watched in a show, some Americans went to Thailand and have sex with little kids, Both Americans and people in Thailand know it's illegal, but they still do it.

Like some one said here already, there's always 2 side story. For example when some one support those who want independent in Tibet, do they know that before the liberation, Tibet was still in Slavery system and most people were slaveries before liberation, an adult humban being was even cheaper than a horse?

I'm going to offer a bit of non-legal advice.

Lock your thread. Please.

 

[mommyof4]

OP? You think the law is perfect and just in China? (although I know of thousands currently IN China that would vehemently disagree). Move back. Nobody said anything about your husband moving to China with you (although, that is his choice) He has obligations and responsibilities that were there before you came along and will remain in spite of your presence.

Hubby can ask his own questions in a concise manner. I actually see no reason to continue this thread. You have nothing to do with any of this.