Consent of Minor for breathalyzer

[Silverplum]

Plus, there is always the concept of no loco parentis.

Small correction for the pedantics everywhere:

It's in loco parentis.

 

[CdwJava]

Small correction for the pedantics everywhere:

It's in loco parentis.

Eh ... I knew that - my bad ... was typing on the fly, and have been sick for a few days. No bueno with a fever and coughing.

 

[Silverplum]

Eh ... I knew that - my bad ... was typing on the fly, and have been sick for a few days. No bueno with a fever and coughing.

No big, just (my) pedantism.

Get well at once!

 

[ecmst12]

Seems like it would be more important to test them on the way OUT than the way IN.

 

[AnotherTenant]

So exactly what does the constitution grant us the right to attend? Your statement is out there.

And by your logic, then, being required to pass through a metal detector before entering the secured area at the airport would be a violation of you constitutional rights, no?

 

[CdwJava]

Seems like it would be more important to test them on the way OUT than the way IN.

While it is possible to sneak alcohol in, the more common place for the kids to drink is in the parking lot or at a residence before and after the dance. That's why many schools also have instituted a no in-and-out policy. Or, if you go out, you come back in and are subject to search and/or a breathalyzer.

We had one prom about 3 years back where three kids were so schnockered that they fell down and hurt themselves on the dance floor. This was the first year in about 5 that they had waived the breath test policy ... needless to say that rule is now firmly in place.

 

[davidmcbeth3]

And by your logic, then, being required to pass through a metal detector before entering the secured area at the airport would be a violation of you constitutional rights, no?

I think it is .. but the courts have already ruled on this so my opinion on this is moot ... do you think they can grab your crotch before you get onto a plane?

And if they can do that, then why not a strip search?

We do have the right to travel in this country.

 

[davidmcbeth3]

Not even related to the issue at hand.


Not even related to the issue at hand.

Really? Not related? Really? SCOTUS rulings on 2nd amendment issues highlight that 1st amendment issues also have caused harm & death ... so SCOTUS thought that equating or comparing one right to another is perfectly OK.

If you did not want to answer, you should not have written stuff that has no merit.

As I said in my first post, this is school policy and has not been struck down...the OP has not posted back so I'm moving on...

and its a 4th amendment issue .. sorry for the previous typo .. you should just correct such typos ... your last post did not help the OP

 

[CdwJava]

Really? Not related? Really?

Really.

The issue has nothing to do with the first and second amendments. It would be a fourth amendment issue if raised at all, but since no court seems to have struck down any such rule that I am aware of, it seems to be perfectly lawful whether you like that state of affairs or not.

and its a 4th amendment issue .. sorry for the previous typo .. you should just correct such typos ... your last post did not help the OP

I did not comment on your typo.

 

[stealth2]

I think it is .. but the courts have already ruled on this so my opinion on this is moot ... do you think they can grab your crotch before you get onto a plane?

I don't know anyone personally that has had that happen. Maybe they only grab yours to get a good laugh?

 

[NellieBly]

I agree, within the confines of our constitution. Can they strip search everyone? Clearly there are boundaries. The testing of kids w/o PC for a dance has not been tested thoroughly in the courts. If a kid exhibits signs of being under the influence then I'm all for that ... but not w/o PC.

Our first amendment rights have created quite a bit of physical harm ... want to limit this right too?

How about guns, I guess we should not have any..they are dangerous. But I'm sure you wear one, right?

Our liberties are not something you can easily weigh on a balance to see if they have meaning..

Actually, in 2002, the female principal and a guidance counselor at Rancho Bernardo High School in Poway, CA performed thong checks on all the girls prior to a school dance.

That made the news AND the Jay Leno show.

 

[davidmcbeth3]

I don't know anyone personally that has had that happen. Maybe they only grab yours to get a good laugh?

Maybe they think I am smuggling pythons.

 

[davidmcbeth3]

Actually, in 2002, the female principal and a guidance counselor at Rancho Bernardo High School in Poway, CA performed thong checks on all the girls prior to a school dance.

That made the news AND the Jay Leno show.

They were checking to see if they were wearing thongs? Crazy CA, huh?

 

[robintexas]

It seems to me that the school has called for a zero tolerance on alcohol consumption as a condition for attending the event. Anyone who attempts to enter, that has consumed too much alcohol, could certainly be noticed by a trained professional. So, just as any other large event (concerts, car races, etc.) the policy should be that those entering should be subject to "pat downs" and purse searches to make sure they are not bringing in alcohol. Or worse, after the events of this week, a dangerous weapon. For those parents that do not agree, get together and plan an alternate event for your children. We, as parents, have to be willing to go the extra mile for our children's well being.

 

[davidmcbeth3]

It seems to me that the school has called for a zero tolerance on alcohol consumption as a condition for attending the event. Anyone who attempts to enter, that has consumed too much alcohol, could certainly be noticed by a trained professional. So, just as any other large event (concerts, car races, etc.) the policy should be that those entering should be subject to "pat downs" and purse searches to make sure they are not bringing in alcohol. Or worse, after the events of this week, a dangerous weapon. For those parents that do not agree, get together and plan an alternate event for your children. We, as parents, have to be willing to go the extra mile for our children's well being.

Extra mile??? So you call forcing your kid to give up their constitutional rights an "extra mile".

Welcome to fascism.